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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 7:05 am
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I wonder if you kind people would kindly verify an itinerary for me, please. It's a DONE. I should add that I have fallen into the trap of already booking this on Qantas, but I believe that I am missing a legitimate pair of flights from London. They're not yet ticketed and are highlighted.

HND-LHR-DBV-LHR-MLA-LHR-YYZ-JFK-SFO-NAN-BNE-CHC-SYD-SIN-NRT

All of these are stopovers. I could not get the useless online tool to ticket it, and I left out the hop to and from Malta. At the risk of having a difficult conversation with Qantas, can anyone see why I should not phone and add that London Malta London return? It means that there are four intra-EME flights which is within the limit. And yes, I know, I should not have booked this until I had worked this out!

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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 11:40 am
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if it hasn't ticketed, why not just cancel?
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Originally Posted by hsmall
I wonder if you kind people would kindly verify an itinerary for me, please. It's a DONE. I should add that I have fallen into the trap of already booking this on Qantas, but I believe that I am missing a legitimate pair of flights from London. They're not yet ticketed and are highlighted.

HND-LHR-DBV-LHR-MLA-LHR-YYZ-JFK-SFO-NAN-BNE-CHC-SYD-SIN-NRT

All of these are stopovers. I could not get the useless online tool to ticket it, and I left out the hop to and from Malta. At the risk of having a difficult conversation with Qantas, can anyone see why I should not phone and add that London Malta London return? It means that there are four intra-EME flights which is within the limit. And yes, I know, I should not have booked this until I had worked this out!

Thank you!
Looks like you already have 4 flights in Europe/ME (rule allows up to 4).

Since you have NOT yet ticketed, I'd avoid ticketing with QF & heading toward AA RTW desk instead.
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Old Dec 11, 2025 | 6:10 am
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Originally Posted by allset2travel
Looks like you already have 4 flights in Europe/ME (rule allows up to 4).

Since you have NOT yet ticketed, I'd avoid ticketing with QF & heading toward AA RTW desk instead.
Thanks. This was a gross mistake but I have ticketed it (I should not have used the word "ticketed" to describe the position where I booked what I could and what I could was ticketed. . I am confused though. There are surely only two intra European flights, namely to DBV and back (I could not get it to accept the return to MLA). I want to grit my teeth and call Qantas to add them. Am I missing something?
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Originally Posted by hsmall
I wonder if you kind people would kindly verify an itinerary for me, please. It's a DONE. I should add that I have fallen into the trap of already booking this on Qantas, but I believe that I am missing a legitimate pair of flights from London. They're not yet ticketed and are highlighted.

HND-LHR-DBV-LHR-MLA-LHR-YYZ-JFK-SFO-NAN-BNE-CHC-SYD-SIN-NRT

All of these are stopovers. I could not get the useless online tool to ticket it, and I left out the hop to and from Malta. At the risk of having a difficult conversation with Qantas, can anyone see why I should not phone and add that London Malta London return? It means that there are four intra-EME flights which is within the limit. And yes, I know, I should not have booked this until I had worked this out!

Thank you!
BA fly to MLA from LGW and not LHR.
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Old Dec 12, 2025 | 11:30 am
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Originally Posted by Franky The Anorak
BA fly to MLA from LGW and not LHR.
Good point Please consider any pair of European flights from LHR.
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Originally Posted by Franky The Anorak
BA fly to MLA from LGW and not LHR.
Just FYI (I do think all of us already know).
This will ADD 1 more segment to OP's itinerary (ground segment). It is counted as 1/16.
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Old Dec 13, 2025 | 9:54 pm
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Originally Posted by allset2travel
Just FYI (I do think all of us already know).
This will ADD 1 more segment to OP's itinerary (ground segment). It is counted as 1/16.
It would ADD 2 more segments as Oneworld don't fly LGW-YYZ so there would need to be a second surface sector LGW-LHR.
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Old Dec 16, 2025 | 9:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Franky The Anorak
It would ADD 2 more segments as Oneworld don't fly LGW-YYZ so there would need to be a second surface sector LGW-LHR.
Yes. My mistake as I say. I meant to add a pair of flights from LHR. So we agree that this conforms with all the rules?

HND-LHR-DBV-LHR-BER-LHR-YYZ-JFK-SFO-NAN-BNE-CHC-SYD-SIN-NRT

Thanks you and sorry for confusion...


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Yes. My mistake as I say. I meant to add a pair of flights from LHR. So we agree that this conforms with all the rules?

HND-LHR-DBV-LHR-BER-LHR-YYZ-JFK-SFO-NAN-BNE-CHC-SYD-SIN-NRT

Thanks you and sorry for confusion...
Yes, that is a valid XONE4 routing but you are only using 14/16 permitted sectors so you are leaving two sectors on the table. You are only using 2/6 permitted sectors in North America and 3/4 permitted sectors in South West Pacific so can squeeze more value out of the ticket in either of those areas.
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Old Dec 20, 2025 | 4:49 pm
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EX OSL DONE5- max 2 stops in Europe AND Africa?!

Hey community, hoping you can help. I am hitting a wall with the one world explorer fare. I would like to depart OSL have three stopovers in RAK, LHR, and NBO. In most documents (including the BA fare summary document) it says "Maximum 2 stopovers permitted in the continent of origin", which would signify a further stopover in Africa is fine. But my agent has highlighted another rule which says maximum "2 in area 2" which would suggest that if I go to Africa I can I only take 1 stop in Europe. What is going on? Many thanks for your ideas and advice.

Here's my hoped for itinerary:

OSL-LHR-LGW-RAK (first 'Europe' stop)
RAK-MAD-BOG Open jaw
BAQ-MIA-LAX
LAX-KIX
KIX-BKK
BKK-CMB-BOM
BOM-LHR (2nd Europe stop)
LHR-NBO
NBO-LHR-OSL
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Old Dec 20, 2025 | 4:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Giles_G

OSL-LHR-LGW-RAK (first 'Europe' stop)
RAK-MAD-BOG Open jaw
BAQ-MIA-LAX
LAX-KIX
KIX-BKK
BKK-CMB-BOM
BOM-LHR (2nd Europe stop)
LHR-NBO
NBO-LHR-OSL
It looks like you have five segments in Europe?

OSL-LHR
LHR-LGW
LGW-RAK
RAK-MAD
-
LHR-OSL

Edited because I left out a segment.
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Old Dec 20, 2025 | 6:10 pm
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Originally Posted by sambagrrl07
It looks like you have five segments in Europe?

OSL-LHR
LHR-LGW
LGW-RAK
RAK-MAD
—-
LHR-OSL

Edited because I left out a segment.
From 3015 rule 4
(h) A minimum of 3 and maximum of 16 segments, including surface segments between any 2 airports,
are permitted for the entire journey. Free flight segments within each continent are limited as follows:
Which is generally taken to mean only flight segments count for continent count, but ground segment count in the 16 total.
The bold flight is in the OW rules

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No mention of "area 2"
8. STOPOVERS
Permitted.
NOTE:
1. Minimum 2 stopovers required
2. Maximum 2 stopovers permitted in the continent of origin
Cannot find in the rule "rule which says maximum "2 in area 2" [but may be wrong]
Continents are defined as
  • Europe-Middle East and Africa
  • these 2 continents together shall Comprise TC2
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Originally Posted by sambagrrl07
It looks like you have five segments in Europe?

OSL-LHR
LHR-LGW
LGW-RAK
RAK-MAD
-
LHR-OSL

Edited because I left out a segment.
Consisting of:
4 flight segments (max allowed in Europe/Middle East), and
1 surface segment (no restriction on surface segments)
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