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CLE - Impact of other airlines (gates, routes, equipment, & etc) after UA De-Hubbing
#946
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CLE, DCA, and 30k feet
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Crane was on C11 this morning. Other Odd Low C jetways have been completely removed from the area save for the part attached to the terminal building. Not sure if they've been stored somewhere on-airport or removed completely.
Looks like C21's jetway was put back together but I didn't get a great view of it.
The old UA seating seems to also be slowly disappearing from the low C gates but doesn't seem like anyone's in a hurry for those. Somewhat surprised the podiums are still in place (sans branding)
Looks like C21's jetway was put back together but I didn't get a great view of it.
The old UA seating seems to also be slowly disappearing from the low C gates but doesn't seem like anyone's in a hurry for those. Somewhat surprised the podiums are still in place (sans branding)
#947
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: CLE
Programs: UA Gold, HH Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 3,662
So, if I stand in the elite line and the bp beeps three times, can I slide over to the Pre lane? (The last time I was there the Pre line was probably a 10 minute wait; no one in the elite line)
#948
Join Date: Feb 2005
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I can't speak for CLE but at other airports I've seen if you take a TSA PRE BP to a non-TSA PRE checkpoint/checker/Elite line the three beeps is meaningless-- if you want TSA PRE benefits you have to queue in the TSA PRE line.
#949
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: CLE
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#951
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CLE
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#952
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: CLE
Programs: UA
Posts: 289
Jet Bridge Update
I saw this on UnitedAirTime:
Minimizing delayed, damaged bags
We are installing covered jetbridge conveyor belts that will expedite handling of gate-checked customer luggage at departure and arrival on United Express flights, minimizing delays and potential for damaged bags. We have installed 12 at Newark’s Terminal A and plan to upgrade another 32 gates at other locations including Cleveland Hopkins, Orlando, Chicago O’Hare and San Francisco.
We are installing covered jetbridge conveyor belts that will expedite handling of gate-checked customer luggage at departure and arrival on United Express flights, minimizing delays and potential for damaged bags. We have installed 12 at Newark’s Terminal A and plan to upgrade another 32 gates at other locations including Cleveland Hopkins, Orlando, Chicago O’Hare and San Francisco.
#953
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: CLE, CAK
Programs: UA Milage Plus
Posts: 214
That would explain why there is some work being done to the United Express jet bridges where their gates are at the end of C concourse. I saw a comment on one of the airport's more recent Instagram posts where they explained that the gates that they gave up (think C3, 5, 7, 9, 11) are having their jet bridges taken off because they aren't needed at the moment. I guess that means that any plans of AA moving to C have been stalled at the moment b/c their new gates at C are not in the shape to be occupied anytime soon.
#954
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CLE, DCA, and 30k feet
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Posts: 4,165
That comment suggests that if they became "needed" they'd be put back but what would be gained by removing them only to reinstall them without some other event taking place (aside from money in contractor(s) pockets?)
My thought is with the poster upthread who pointed out that in most cases airlines own the jet bridges, and further that either United and American or the city couldn't come to agreeable terms on selling them, or that removal on expiration or termination was a condition of the lease.
But this is Cleveland and plenty of things have been done that make no sense, so it's certainly possible.
#955
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: CLE (mostly)
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Posts: 823
If the airline owns the jet bridge, doesn't it make sense that they'd be removing the UA-owned jet bridges from the low C gates, in order to install AA-owned jet bridges there?
#956
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: CLE, CAK
Programs: UA Milage Plus
Posts: 214
That makes next to no sense -- unless used jet bridges are in short supply and needed somewhere else -- there's no reason to remove them just because they "aren't needed at the moment"
That comment suggests that if they became "needed" they'd be put back but what would be gained by removing them only to reinstall them without some other event taking place (aside from money in contractor(s) pockets?)
My thought is with the poster upthread who pointed out that in most cases airlines own the jet bridges, and further that either United and American or the city couldn't come to agreeable terms on selling them, or that removal on expiration or termination was a condition of the lease.
But this is Cleveland and plenty of things have been done that make no sense, so it's certainly possible.
That comment suggests that if they became "needed" they'd be put back but what would be gained by removing them only to reinstall them without some other event taking place (aside from money in contractor(s) pockets?)
My thought is with the poster upthread who pointed out that in most cases airlines own the jet bridges, and further that either United and American or the city couldn't come to agreeable terms on selling them, or that removal on expiration or termination was a condition of the lease.
But this is Cleveland and plenty of things have been done that make no sense, so it's certainly possible.
I can upload what the airport said regarding this if you want.
#957
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CLE
Programs: UA,WN,AA,DL, B6
Posts: 4,169
Looks like renovations at CLE should be done mid-June:
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index...novations.html
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index...novations.html
That's great how about replacing the 60 year old terminal sitting behind the ticket counters. Do they ever have a Master Plan. Anyone who has been flying over 50 years and seeing what other airports have done and spent. The city has to take responsibility for this. The Airport should not be run by a city, a airport authority. Also are you really looking for a real airport director with experience. A lot of great construction in downtown but the airport is a real sore spot.
#958
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 23
One of my buddies has a brother who is a huge aviation fan (we get along quite well!). He recently flew into CLE and, well, he flat out said he hated it. Said exactly what we all say: it's dark and feels old and cramped. He flew Delta so he was in B; I told him he should have gone down to C to at least see the best of what we have (which, admittedly, still isn't great at all). Why did we waste all the years as a key hub when we could have used it as a chance to update our airport? Now the hub's gone, the money is dried up, and we still have a bad facility. My next trip is in a week; flying Southwest but I'm going to go down to C to at least take a look at the new counters United put up.
I know its still possible to connect in CLE on United (and I remember hearing someone connect ATL-CLE-JFK on Delta), but is there any way of knowing how many people still do? I'm sure its small since we don't offer many flight options anymore, but I'm curious.
I know its still possible to connect in CLE on United (and I remember hearing someone connect ATL-CLE-JFK on Delta), but is there any way of knowing how many people still do? I'm sure its small since we don't offer many flight options anymore, but I'm curious.
#959
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: CLE, CAK
Programs: UA Milage Plus
Posts: 214
One of my buddies has a brother who is a huge aviation fan (we get along quite well!). He recently flew into CLE and, well, he flat out said he hated it. Said exactly what we all say: it's dark and feels old and cramped. He flew Delta so he was in B; I told him he should have gone down to C to at least see the best of what we have (which, admittedly, still isn't great at all). Why did we waste all the years as a key hub when we could have used it as a chance to update our airport? Now the hub's gone, the money is dried up, and we still have a bad facility. My next trip is in a week; flying Southwest but I'm going to go down to C to at least take a look at the new counters United put up.
I know its still possible to connect in CLE on United (and I remember hearing someone connect ATL-CLE-JFK on Delta), but is there any way of knowing how many people still do? I'm sure its small since we don't offer many flight options anymore, but I'm curious.
I know its still possible to connect in CLE on United (and I remember hearing someone connect ATL-CLE-JFK on Delta), but is there any way of knowing how many people still do? I'm sure its small since we don't offer many flight options anymore, but I'm curious.
For the connecting pax stats, there is really no way to know, but the airport has said that they still have some pax that connect. If I remember right, it was under 10%. Keep in mind that Spirit and Frontier surely have connecting pax at CLE since they don't really do the hub-spoke system that other airlines do.
#960
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 143
One of my buddies has a brother who is a huge aviation fan (we get along quite well!). He recently flew into CLE and, well, he flat out said he hated it. Said exactly what we all say: it's dark and feels old and cramped. He flew Delta so he was in B; I told him he should have gone down to C to at least see the best of what we have (which, admittedly, still isn't great at all). Why did we waste all the years as a key hub when we could have used it as a chance to update our airport? Now the hub's gone, the money is dried up, and we still have a bad facility. My next trip is in a week; flying Southwest but I'm going to go down to C to at least take a look at the new counters United put up.
I know its still possible to connect in CLE on United (and I remember hearing someone connect ATL-CLE-JFK on Delta), but is there any way of knowing how many people still do? I'm sure its small since we don't offer many flight options anymore, but I'm curious.
I know its still possible to connect in CLE on United (and I remember hearing someone connect ATL-CLE-JFK on Delta), but is there any way of knowing how many people still do? I'm sure its small since we don't offer many flight options anymore, but I'm curious.
Last edited by 737MAX; May 24, 2016 at 7:09 pm