Sep 11, 2014, 11:07 am
Last edit by: oliver2002
Current MCT to/from LH at MUC:
Code:
MUC-MUC FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I
CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
LH BUS - 0100 0100 0100 0100
LH - BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100
LH 2 - 2 0040 0040 0040 0040
LH BUS 2 - 2 0100 0100 0100 0100
BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100
-LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100
2 -LH 2 0040 0040 0040 0040
2 -LH BUS 2 0100 0100 0100 0100
1 -LH BUS 2 0130 ---- 0130 ----
SC 2 -LH AL 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH BG 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH CY 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH EG 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH GB 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH GE 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH IE 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH ME 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH RO 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH RS 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH TN 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH TR 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
SC 2 -LH 0400-0799 2 ---- ---- ---- 0050
LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100
LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100
LH BUS 2 -LH 2 0100 0100 0100 0100
LH 2 -LH BUS 2 0100 0100 0100 0100
LH AL 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH BG 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH CY 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH EG 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH GB 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH GE 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH IE 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH ME 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH RO 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH RS 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH TN 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH TR 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH BUS 2 -LH IL 2 ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH BUS 2 -LH IN 2 ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH BUS 2 -LH US 2 ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH AL 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH BG 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH CY 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH EG 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH GB 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH GE 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH IE 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH ME 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH RO 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH RS 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH TN 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH SC 2 -LH TR 2 ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH 0400-0799 2 -LH SC 2 ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH SC 2 -LH 0400-0799 2 ---- 0050 ---- 0050
LH 9439-9439 2 Y-LH 2 ---- ---- 0045 ----
LH 9469-9469 2 Y-LH 2 ---- ---- 0045 ----
LH XQ-LH ---- ---- 0130 0130
-LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
2 -LH 2 A3 ---- ---- ---- 0045
1 -LH 1 EW 0035 0050 0100 0100
2 -LH 1 EW 0100 0130 0130 0130
1 -LH 2 EW 0100 0130 0130 0130
2 -LH 2 EW 0035 0050 0100 0100
LH -LH XQ ---- ---- ---- 0130
LH 2 -LH 2 EW ---- 0040 ---- ----
LH 2 -LH 2 UA ---- ---- ---- 0040
LH 2 AC-LH 2 LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
Connecting in Munich [MUC]
Mar 1, 2012, 1:00 pm
#676
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3. Why do you need to pass through immigration for a non-Schengen to non-Schengen flight? You definitely need to re-clear security for many connections in MUC (my main bugbear is that non-Schengen to Schnegen drops you right back at main security with all the departing passengers instead of a dedicated transfer security facility), but I just wondered if UK security was considered to be good enough that secondary clearance was not required when connecting to a non-US non-Schengen departure (as would be the case if you were arriving from many Schengen points)
If you are dropped at a bus gate you can go straight up the stairs (or a lift) to the non-Schengen departure level without going through security or passport control.
Mar 1, 2012, 3:43 pm
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No need to pass through immigration or security in MUC. Flying from the UK (non-Schengen but EU = clean country) to non-Schengen via MUC, you don't need to clear either. ^
If you are dropped at a bus gate you can go straight up the stairs (or a lift) to the non-Schengen departure level without going through security or passport control.
If you are dropped at a bus gate you can go straight up the stairs (or a lift) to the non-Schengen departure level without going through security or passport control.
Mar 1, 2012, 3:49 pm
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Mar 1, 2012, 6:05 pm
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No need to pass through immigration or security in MUC. Flying from the UK (non-Schengen but EU = clean country) to non-Schengen via MUC, you don't need to clear either. ^
If you are dropped at a bus gate you can go straight up the stairs (or a lift) to the non-Schengen departure level without going through security or passport control.
If you are dropped at a bus gate you can go straight up the stairs (or a lift) to the non-Schengen departure level without going through security or passport control.
Mar 7, 2012, 11:07 am
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Schengen-to-USA connection at MUC
Hi all,
I'm planning to fly GRZ-MUC and then MUC-SFO in a few weeks. Separate tickets, but both flights are on LH (first one on CityLine). The second flight departs at 16:05.
One option I found for GRZ-MUC is scheduled to arrive at 13:50. If that's cutting it too close, the next best one is much earlier (10:00). I know MUC is much easier than FRA for such things, but can anyone with recent experience suggest a minimum connection time there? In particular, I'd love to know whether the 13:50 arrival will likely give me enough time to go through whatever passport/security is required for this connection.
Thanks!
--H
I'm planning to fly GRZ-MUC and then MUC-SFO in a few weeks. Separate tickets, but both flights are on LH (first one on CityLine). The second flight departs at 16:05.
One option I found for GRZ-MUC is scheduled to arrive at 13:50. If that's cutting it too close, the next best one is much earlier (10:00). I know MUC is much easier than FRA for such things, but can anyone with recent experience suggest a minimum connection time there? In particular, I'd love to know whether the 13:50 arrival will likely give me enough time to go through whatever passport/security is required for this connection.
Thanks!
--H
Mar 7, 2012, 12:30 pm
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One option I found for GRZ-MUC is scheduled to arrive at 13:50. If that's cutting it too close, the next best one is much earlier (10:00). I know MUC is much easier than FRA for such things, but can anyone with recent experience suggest a minimum connection time there? In particular, I'd love to know whether the 13:50 arrival will likely give me enough time to go through whatever passport/security is required for this connection.
S.
Mar 7, 2012, 1:36 pm
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I'm planning to fly GRZ-MUC and then MUC-SFO in a few weeks. Separate tickets, but both flights are on LH (first one on CityLine). The second flight departs at 16:05.
One option I found for GRZ-MUC is scheduled to arrive at 13:50. If that's cutting it too close, the next best one is much earlier (10:00). I know MUC is much easier than FRA for such things, but can anyone with recent experience suggest a minimum connection time there? In particular, I'd love to know whether the 13:50 arrival will likely give me enough time to go through whatever passport/security is required for this connection.
One option I found for GRZ-MUC is scheduled to arrive at 13:50. If that's cutting it too close, the next best one is much earlier (10:00). I know MUC is much easier than FRA for such things, but can anyone with recent experience suggest a minimum connection time there? In particular, I'd love to know whether the 13:50 arrival will likely give me enough time to go through whatever passport/security is required for this connection.
You need to clear passport control but no security for this connection.
Arriving at 13:50 for a 16:05 departure should give plenty of time for your connection. The minimum connection time in MUC is 30 minutes in T2 where your flight will arrive and depart.
However, if your flight from GRZ is very, very late and you miss your connection, you will be on your own since you are on separate tickets.
Mar 13, 2012, 10:37 pm
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Reporting back - my experience is that 35m is just barely enough time if you have to re-clear security and your connection requires a bus-to-plane. Arriving from Kiev in business class we lucked out with a jetway but then had to walk the entire length of the terminal (at least 5m) to the security checkpoint. Thankfully screening was almost instantaneous, a far cry from FRA where I have waited 30m+ after some early a.m. arrivals. But then the nightmare - another long walk back inside the terminal to my gate, only to find that my "bus" to the plane was already boarding. It took me 17 minutes total which was just barely enough time as the bus left at 7pm for a 7:15 departure. So if you have a seat in the back of your first plane you may not make it. Thankfully did not stop at lounge as I would have been SOL.
I gotta say I was less than impressed that a world class German airport finds it necessary to use buses and expose people to the elements when boarding. Not too friendly for disabled flyers either or those of us lugging carry-ons up the stairs. Pathetic. But that aside I like the lounges at MUC and it's much nicer than FRA, assuming you don't have to rush through the place.
I gotta say I was less than impressed that a world class German airport finds it necessary to use buses and expose people to the elements when boarding. Not too friendly for disabled flyers either or those of us lugging carry-ons up the stairs. Pathetic. But that aside I like the lounges at MUC and it's much nicer than FRA, assuming you don't have to rush through the place.
Apr 1, 2012, 4:56 pm
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I'm connecting in MUC with a 1h20 layover later this month, Non-Schengen (BEG) to Schengen (ZRH), both arriving to and departing from T2. Any chance of catching a glimpse from the Visitor's Terrace before going to board the next flight? How much time do you reckon I'd have?
Apr 2, 2012, 12:47 am
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I'm connecting in MUC with a 1h20 layover later this month, Non-Schengen (BEG) to Schengen (ZRH), both arriving to and departing from T2. Any chance of catching a glimpse from the Visitor's Terrace before going to board the next flight? How much time do you reckon I'd have?
In your case, unless there is absolutely no queue at passport/schengen immigration first, then security, and you arrive straight at the shortest walking gate, I wouldn't mind trying out to do much but heading to your gate. Sorry.
Apr 2, 2012, 1:03 pm
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What are your experiences with non-schengen to non-schengen transit in MUC? Does one still need to clear immigration at MUC? I think in FRA, there is no need to clear immigration if flight connecting is a non-schengen flight (e.g. ORD-FRA-NRT).
I'd be flying in F.
I'd be flying in F.
Apr 2, 2012, 1:16 pm
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In F, if on LH metal, you will be able to use the First Class Lounge.
It is quite an easy transfer and gives you a bit of a walk for good exercise.
Apr 2, 2012, 2:15 pm
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I had a 1 hour 5 minutes connection in MUC in December, non-schengen to non-schengen. No immigration, no security coming in from the US. My flight arrived early, so I had plenty of time to visit the lounge and get to my gate.
Apr 2, 2012, 2:46 pm
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See my post above. If you don't have to clear security then you should have plenty of time to enjoy the lounge, particularly as I don't think they'll be boarding your connecting flight from the tarmac. However I have always been required to clear security at FRA after arriving from the US and connecting to Africa (both non-schengen) - but maybe that experience is relevant only to FRA and/or Africa.