Connecting in Munich [MUC]

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Current MCT to/from LH at MUC:

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 DMLH/MUC/LH/22JAN16                                                             
 MUC  LH TO LH                                                                   
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 CK ALSO STANDARD CONNECTING TIMES                                               
 PRECLEARANCE MAY APPLY                                                          
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Jan 15, 07, 4:17 am

Reteli

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Connecting in Munich [MUC]

Hi everybody,

I have read a few other threads but have not found out whether this combination of non-schengen to non-schengen connection (in Eco) should work.

LH 5063 Zurich Munich 07:15 08:15
LH 3350 Munich Istanbul 08:45 12:15

I know that the incoming flight usually uses a gate. Does anybody know if the IST flight is also departing from the same area? Would I need to go through passport control? (I assume that no security is needed).

The trip would be on Good Friday, so that should help a little bit...

Thank you for any insights,
Reto

Jan 15, 07, 5:51 am

alex0683de

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Since it's non-Schengen to non-Schengen, you will not need to go through passport control. Since both your flights are non-Schengen shorthaul, I think they will probably both depart from the lower level (G gates).

I don't know whether you will have to go through security or not.

This connection should be tight, but doable. Don't forget, if LH sold you this as a through-ticket, then they're pretty confident that it will work.

Last edited by oliver2002; Oct 24, 07 at 5:12 am Reason: removed quote of OP for space

Jan 15, 07, 11:19 am

muc_flyer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alex0683de

Don't forget, if LH sold you this as a through-ticket, then they're pretty confident that it will work.

...counts often but not always as I doubt LH staff stought a second before booking me on a connection (one ticket) having 30min in FRA (arrival time to departure time) both on a remote position

Jan 15, 07, 12:30 pm

alex0683de

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muc_flyer

...counts often but not always as I doubt LH staff stought a second before booking me on a connection (one ticket) having 30min in FRA (arrival time to departure time) both on a remote position

In FRA, I wouldn't want to book it myself.

In MUC, on the other hand, I would not have a problem with it. Quite the contrary.

Jan 20, 07, 10:08 pm

kenadams

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alex0683de

In FRA, I wouldn't want to book it myself.

In MUC, on the other hand, I would not have a problem with it. Quite the contrary.

I agree. I've always had very smooth connections in MUC. I've done quite a few 35-45 min. Schengen to Non Shengen connections (and vice versa) - even some with both flights boarding by bus.
MUC is a wonderful airport.

Jan 22, 07, 2:42 am

szg

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I often fly PHL to MUC on US and then MUC to PRG on LH. The connection time between is 40 minutes and there was no problem to get the flight, when US is on time. You have to go trough the security control between level H and G.

Oct 23, 07, 3:13 pm

travellerBE

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Connection time 30 min at MUC

I will fly from BRN via MUC to PEK on November 2 and the connection time seems to be rather tight (30 min). Given that LH sells tickets with this connection, I assume that in theory this works well. However, do somebody have experience whether with regard to miss the flight (or the checked baggage to miss the flight)?

Moreover, I saw that business seems to be fully booked on the MUC-PEK flight. Does this increase the risk that you might "miss" the flight because the flight might be overbooked?

Many thanks.

Oct 23, 07, 3:46 pm

DownUnderFlyer

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Using the search function will bring up quite some threads dealing with connections in Munich.
30 Minutes is a legal connection time for MUC so you should be fine with your flights. The airport is designed for very quick connections. The only issue is when your flight is significantly delayed.

How booked business class is should have no influence on your chance of catching the flight. You will get your MUC-PEK boarding bass in BRN already so your seat will be confirmed at this stage already.

Oct 23, 07, 3:48 pm

hch

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer

Using the search function will bring up quite some threads dealing with connections in Munich.
30 Minutes is a legal connection time for MUC so you should be fine with your flights.

The HON hotline claimed 35 min is not a valid connection time in MUC to

Oct 23, 07, 11:08 pm

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chumbawumba

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Sticki?

Hi,

Meanwhile I recommend to do a connection/transfer-thread and make it sticky. Frankfurt 1h20, Munich 30Min, Zurich 40Min.

Regards

Oct 24, 07, 12:51 am

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rob_sad

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Transfer timie at MUC depends on airlines. If there are two LH legs 20min is possible. In case of 1 flight delay, there is posibility of fast tranfer. Special bus will be waiting for you.

Oct 24, 07, 5:08 am

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oliver2002

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chumbawumba

Meanwhile I recommend to do a connection/transfer-thread and make it sticky. Frankfurt 1h20, Munich 30Min, Zurich 40Min.

We already have enough stickies... there is a master FRA connection thread already and now a MUC connection thread

Last edited by oliver2002; Oct 24, 07 at 5:13 am

Oct 24, 07, 8:40 am

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cockpitvisit

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30 min shouldn't be a problem. I recently had a 15-min connection time (due to the inbound flight being late), and both I and my luggage made it onto the next flight.

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Oct 24, 07, 2:21 pm

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I recently had 10mins between FRA-MUC and MUC-GRU, due to inbound being late. No help from LH. No one at the gate helping. And this in C. You need to go all the way back to the central concourse, then up to passport control jumping the cue on two hundred other pax and then a couple of conveyour belts back to H28. I was the only one who made it out of a bunch of 15 pax. Lousy service on behalf of LH. But lot's of empty seats in C that morning on the MUC-GRU... plus me clutching to my asthma spray as we climbed past the beautiful alps. Could not have done it at different age (am 37) or with family and kids.

Nov 20, 07, 12:19 pm

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impossible connection in Munich? any advice appreciated

Hi all, I'm a new poster and I'm hoping I can draw on the forum members' collective knowledge here.

Here's my story. Last week I bought a ticket to fly from Kansas City to Sarajevo to surprise my girlfriend for New Year's. I decided to go because I saw a flight advertised on airfare.com for less than half of what any other booking service was offering. (Unfortunately, it wasn't until after I bought the ticket that I read reviews about airfare.com and learned about their less than stellar reputation)

My problem is the connection time in Munich. I leave Washington at 10:15 PM on December 30th, and I'm scheduled to land in Munich at 10:20 AM on the 31st. What I didn't realize before I bought the ticket (again, unfortunately) is that my flight from Munich to Sarajevo is scheduled to take off at 10:55 AM, only 35 minutes after I'm scheduled to land in Munich.

Is it possible that I can actually make a 35 connection on an international flight from Germany to Bosnia? What makes me even more concerned is that I have been checking the additional information on the e-ticket, and the 'last check-in' time listed for my lufthansa flight from Munich to Sarajevo is 40 minutes before departure flight.

If my flight from the U.S. doesn't even arrive until 35 before...(luckily, both flights are in Terminal 2)...there's no way I'm making it, right? Unless I get lucky and my transatlantic flight arrives super early. Am I just out of luck here? If so, what happens? Is this a situation where Lufthansa will help me out, and either find another flight to Sarajevo on another airline (if possible), or give me a seat on the next day's flight to Sarajevo?

I'm kicking myself for not thinking this through beforehand, and I realize I'm responsible for the mess. I was just excited by the idea of seeing my girlfriend for New Year's, but now I'm worried that because of my failure to plan this out it may not happen. Anyway, if anyone has any advice on how I should handle this situation, please let me know. Thanks very much for any help.

Chris

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