pgh234

#1 is not on C+ for whatever reason you are not there. Booked too late or late SDC or IROPs onto flight with no availability in C+

Repooc17

Thanks for the feedback.

I am not on C+ waitlist because Plat or above can get C+ shortly after booking. There are a lot of available C+ seats still. I had considered late SDC/IROP scenarios; however, the flight is not until tomorrow (23 hours and 30 minutes from now)...regular check-in time had just opened for the particular flight.

MSPeconomist

If someone buys a last minute ticket, there might not be C+ seats available, especially if the person rejects an "upgrade" into a C+ middle seat.

zitsky

Asking for my partner, who is not on Flyertalk. Is it impossible for a Silver Medallion with a companion to upgrade from Comfort Plus on an international flight JFK-FCO to Premium Select or Delta One? I suspect he doesn't have enough miles, even if he could. He only has 140,000 miles so not many. We have already requested First class upgrades from RDU-JFK, not a big deal. but would be nice. Upgrades on JFK-FCO are showing as "not available" or something similar. I suspect it's the fare code and/or it's just not possible to upgrade from Comfort Plus with his status, and with a companion.

Not at all a big deal, just curious because I manage everything, although we did book the flight together since we used his Delta Amex and my eCredit.

Goodoldflyer

You can upgrade, but they won't offer complimentary upgrades from c+ to PS or Delta One on international flights.

zitsky

Thanks. No I wasn’t expecting comped. I checked again and language is Upgrade Not Eligible so maybe it’s not going to happen?

safigan

I know this is a basic question, but what I'm seeing doesn't match what I thought I understood about complimentary upgrades. I earned DM in Dec. My understanding this that PM and above are upgraded at the 5-day window. I have a flight in 3 days and I have yet to be upgraded. Yet the seat map shows 10 of 20 FC seats still empty and the flight info indicates that FC is available with a RUC. Could you explain what's happening and when those seats will next be released? Thank you.

MarkCron

Seats open in FC does not mean upgrade inventory is available. RUC and Medallion upgrades come from different inventories as well.
You will get upgraded when OY inventory is available for whatever place you are in line.

safigan

Thank you. In your experience, when does OY inventory tend to open up? 10 open seats 3 days ahead sounds like it's pretty open, but maybe more FC seats get sold in the last 3 days than I expect. Or maybe they're just stingy opening up seats at the 5 day window?

Zorak

Just to clarify, are you waitlisted for an RUC upgrade, or were you mentioning that just as an indication of how open the cabin is?

There is no set time when either OY or OU (comp upgrade space) opens up; it's based on how may seats revenue management thinks they might sell between now and departure time, which could depend on the route, day of week, etc. In the abstract it sounds stingy (and is annoying if you are hoping to clear) that they wouldn't be upgrading DM/PM with 10 seats open but I have definitely seen something similar recently; I forget the details but think I did eventually clear before T-24 (which is not to say it'll happen here, but...)

I am unsure of just how automated OY/OU inventory "computation" is and whether e.g. in your case where the algorithm actually predicts it might sell 10 seats before departure, or if the algorithm might think it would be ok to release upgrade inventory but it needs to be manually updated by a human (given general experiences with DL IT the latter wouldn't surprise me...)

Zorak

I'm pretty sure "Upgrade Not Eligible" refers to comp upgrades only and doesn't rule out mileage or certificate supported upgrades. Have you/he tried calling in and asking about it? The relevant thing here is called a Mileage Upgrade Award: Delta Mileage Upgrade Awards

which used to be possible system-wide but are now only available on international flights and a lot of agents might not know about them (and may think you are asking about using miles to pay the cash buy-up offer, which is also a thing), so prepare for a confusing conversation :-/

zitsky

Thanks! I will check that out.

MSPeconomist

I wouldn't expect a FO and non-status companion to get FC upgrades on RDU-JFK and vv.

zitsky

Ok. I certainly didn’t say it’s likely LOL. But since the option is there for First upgrade on the flights to/from RDU, my partner said “why not try”. I would rather keep our comfort plus seats in a known location rather than First seats if I end up sitting by a window. But I’m willing to go along if it happens.

FO means?

Zorak

FO is the commonly used abbreviation on FlyerTalk for Silver Medallions. According to some this avoids confusion of SM with SkyMiles, or is a historical throwback to either Flying Orchid or Flies Often, or all of the above.

Sampling of related threads:

What is an “FO?”

What does "F0" after my Skymiles number mean?