Old Sep 12, 2017, 9:39 pm
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Note: This thread is about Mileage Upgrade Awards, which are Sky Miles upgrades that upgrade your coach seat to First Class, Delta One or Premium Select.

These are no longer available on domestic routes and have been replaced with using miles for FCM buy-ups at slightly over 1 cpm -- see the FCM thread
They are also no longer available from North America to Mexico, Caribbean, Central and South America.

Important Details:
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  • Your underlying fare class remains Economy, and you are technically still booked as an economy passenger.
  • You are granted all inflight & airport benefits of having that upgraded seat (i.e. Premium security line, Sky Club access on international flights, etc).
  • You earn miles based on your original Main Cabin fare.
  • Mileage Upgrade Award prices are set by route and do not fluctuate based on the cash price of the upgrade.
  • Delta no longer publishes the miles required by route to upgrade, and the numbers below is a FT best attempt to collect this data; it may not be accurate.
  • Mileage Upgrade Awards are confirmed after your coach ticket is booked (though could be in the same phone call with an agent who has checked for upgrade space before booking)
  • The only way to use Mileage Upgrade Awards is by calling Delta--there is no online option.
  • This Wiki contains only minimal information about upgrading to and from Premium Select; please share information as you gather it, either by updating the wiki or posting in the thread.
  • You must be booked in an upgradeable fare class to upgrade. It is possible to buy up to an upgradeable coach fare class and then upgrade with miles.


How to Upgrade with Delta Sky Miles
  • You can Either:
    • Call Delta and ask to book a flight that has Mileage Upgrade Awards available and then purchase and upgrade the flight at the same time with that agent. Inventory is highly limited.
    • OR, call Delta to upgrade a flight you have already booked. When you call they will either process the upgrade or tell you that there are no upgrades available.
      • If an upgrade is not available, it is possible to waitlist.
        • Mileage Upgrade Awards that are waitlisted do not transfer to the Airport Upgrade List (for gate upgrade) and cannot be cleared at the gate.
        • There have been rare exceptions reported to this rule. If you want to attempt to clear your upgrade at the airport on day of departure, speak with a red coat. This is against policy and will not usually work, but some have reported success.
  • If you want to upgrade a flight that you have already booked the change fee should be waived for this upgrade. Ask for a supervisor if this is challenged.
  • The Delta agent may offer you either Delta Upgrade Awards or Upgrade with Miles (see details below). Confirm you are getting the lowest mile option.
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NOTE: Delta offers an additional upgrade option which is called Upgrade with Miles. These upgrades are available on US Domestic flights only and are a pay with miles type of upgrade. (meaning that, unlike Mileage Upgrade Awards, the amount of miles needed fluctuates based on the cash price of an upgrade). When you use Upgrade with Miles you will earn miles for your flight based on the cabin flown, as you have now paid (with miles) to change your ticket to a premium cabin ticket (vs an upgraded coach ticket). The mileage amounts listed in this thread are not for this program. To use Upgrade with Miles you need to log into your reservation and check for an upgrade offer or call Delta and ask. Upgrade with Miles typically requires more miles to upgrade than Mileage Upgrade Awards.
In order to use Mileage Upgrade Awards from Main Cabin or Comfort+ to First Class or Delta One, you need to be booked in the correct fare class:
  • Mileage Upgrade Awards are no longer available for flights within North America and South America. These routes generally have variable online mileage upgrade offers which are based on the cash upgrade offer at the rate of 1 CPM (less 7.5% US excise tax for domestic flights).
  • For all other markets you can upgrade when booked in: Y/B/M//H/Q/K
    • You can see your booking class by logging into your reservation. Directly under your seat assignment it will say your cabin and your booking class. For example: MAIN CABIN (Q)
The wiki needs to be updated to include information about upgrading to and from Delta Premium Select.

Prices for the following markets as quoted by multiple reservations agents.

Other thread of potential interest:

Current Pricing (may be out of date, updates appreciated)

international main cabin to PS
Y/B/M: 25,000
H/Q/K: 35,000

US to Europe
Main Cabin (fare class Y, B, M) to Delta One - requires OY - 35,000 miles
Main Cabin (fare class H, Q, K) to Delta One - requires OY - 65,000 miles
Premium Select (fare class P, A, G) to Delta One - requires OY - 45,000 miles

US to South Asia/Oceania
Main Cabin (fare class Y, B, M) to Delta One - requires OY - 45,000 miles
Main Cabin (fare class H, Q, K) to Delta One - requires OY - 90,000 miles
Premium Select (fare class P, A, G) to Delta One - requires OY - 45,000 miles


LAX-SYD
PS (A) to D1: 17,500 miles

Historical pricing

(for curiosity/comparison, this section is a mix of really old and not so old pricing so may not make a lot of sense)

US/Canada/Mexico/Caribbean First Class (Most North America routes except for flights that offer Delta One)
Y/B/M: 15,000 miles
H/Q/K: 20,000 miles
L/U/T: 30,000 miles

Domestic Delta One Routes (domestic transcon & Hawaii routes that offer Delta One service such as JFK-LAX, LAX-DCA, ATL-HNL, etc)
Y/B/M: 23,000 miles
H/Q/K: 28,000 miles
L/U/T: 40,000 miles

NOTE: It *might* be possible to upgrade domestic segments of a PS fare (G A P) ticket to either FC or domestic D1 (unclear which) for 17,500 miles. *Unconfirmed*

US-Hawaii (Except for Delta One routes MSP/ATL/JFK/DTW-HNL. For these routes, see Domestic Transcontinental Premium Routes )
Y/B/M: 15,000 miles
H/Q/K: 20,000 miles
L/U/T: 30,000 miles

US-Northern South America
Y/B/M: 30,000 miles
H/Q/K: 45,000 miles
L/U/T: 55,000 miles

US-Southern South America
Y/B/M: 40,000 miles
H/Q/K: 60,000 miles

US-Europe:
Main Cabin to Delta One:
Y/B/M: 35,000 miles
H/Q/K: 65,000 miles

Main Cabin to Premium Select:
Y/B/M: 25,000 miles
H/Q/K: 35,000 miles

Premium Select to Delta One:
P/A/G: 40,000 miles
(NOTE: Confirmed on Aug 28, 2022 at this rate from JFK-AMS. Confirms books into OY class)

US-Northern Asia (Japan/Korea/China):
Main Cabin to Delta One:
Y/B/M: 45,000 miles
H/Q/K: 70,000 miles

Premium Select to Delta One
P/A/G: 45,000 miles

US-Southeast/Southwest Asia, Micronesia, Southwest Pacific:
Y/B/M: 35,000 miles
H/Q/K: 80,000 miles

US-Africa (incl. South Africa)
Y/B/M: 35,000 miles
H/Q/K: 80,000 miles

US-Middle East
Y/B/M: 35,000 miles
H/Q/K: 80,000 miles

US to TLV:
Main Cabin to Delta One:
Y/B/M: 45,000 miles
H/Q/K: 90,000 miles

Main Cabin to Premium Select:
Y/B/M: 25,000 miles
H/Q/K: 40,000 miles



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Old Sep 4, 2017, 8:54 pm
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Delta Mileage Upgrade Awards

Other than calling Delta, is there anyway to see how many miles it will cost me to upgrade my upcoming ATL to Phoenix flight?
Nov 1st. U fare
Nov 3rd. K fare
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Twitter or call in. Good luck.

Called about an ORD-ATL flight with 8 open FC seats and they wanted 30K miles. I laughed and hung up.
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Old Sep 4, 2017, 10:36 pm
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I tried asking on twitter for one of my upcoming flights and they told me they couldnt quote it on twitter, but could tell me id need to pay a $250 change fee at least
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Old Sep 5, 2017, 2:04 am
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Originally Posted by xolinlevh
I tried asking on twitter for one of my upcoming flights and they told me they couldnt quote it on twitter, but could tell me id need to pay a $250 change fee at least
A change fee to use miles to upgrade? That doesn't sound right.
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Originally Posted by LoganFlyer
A change fee to use miles to upgrade? That doesn't sound right.
Probably fee needed to upfare to lowest upgradable fare class. Most just assume any coach ticket can be upgraded.
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Old Sep 5, 2017, 11:49 pm
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Not sure if these values are still current but there's the wiki on this thread:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showwiki.php?t=1694851

(the thread title is not one that you would think would have this info, but there it is)
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Old Sep 6, 2017, 4:27 am
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Originally Posted by Zorak
Not sure if these values are still current but there's the wiki on this thread:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showwiki.php?t=1694851

(the thread title is not one that you would think would have this info, but there it is)
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Old Sep 6, 2017, 5:17 am
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Weird, it works for me. FWIW here's the link for the whole thread (vs the attempted direct link to the wiki in the previous post), see if that works?

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...uncements.html
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Weird, it works for me. FWIW here's the link for the whole thread (vs the attempted direct link to the wiki in the previous post), see if that works?

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...uncements.html

Works.
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Is there any luck with upgrading ATL-JNB to D1? And is it really 115k Miles one way?
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Is there any luck with upgrading ATL-JNB to D1? And is it really 115k Miles one way?
It's generally tough to get upgrades on that route.
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Old Sep 6, 2017, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by G-man82
Is there any luck with upgrading ATL-JNB to D1? And is it really 115k Miles one way?
Where are getting 115K from? Wiki currently says 35K for Y/B/M, and 80K for H/Q/K. Sounds like you are relying on old Points Guy blog post which is no longer correct.

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Note: Circa May 2016, Delta has backed down somewhat on the amounts listed below. The wiki is in need of updating. In the interim, jump to post #353 for partial updates. Amounts in green have been updated or re-confirmed, while amounts in black are original and it is unknown (and unlikely) they are current. It is likely that US-Southern South America closely matches US-Europe, and that US-Middle East and US-Africa closely match US-Southwest Pacific.

Domestic (except JFK-LAX/SFO, Hawaii, etc.):
Y/B/M: 15,000 miles
H/Q/K: 20,000 miles
L/U/T: 30,000 miles

Domestic Premium Routes (JFK-LAX/SFO)
Y/B/M: 15,000 miles
H/Q/K: 20,000 miles
L/U/T: 30,000 miles

US-Hawaii
Y/B/M: 15,000 miles
H/Q/K: 20,000 miles
L/U/T: 30,000 miles

US-Canada
Y/B/M: 15,000 miles
H/Q/K: 20,000 miles
L/U/T: 30,000 miles

US-Puerto Rico, Mexico, Bermuda, Caribbean
Y/B/M: 15,000 miles
H/Q/K: 20,000 miles
L/U/T: 30,000 miles

US-Northern South America
Y/B/M: 30,000 miles
H/Q/K: 45,000 miles
L/U/T: 55,000 miles

US-Southern South America
Y/B/M: 60,000 miles
H/Q/K: 80,000 miles

US-Europe:
Y/B/M: 30,000 miles
H/Q/K: 60,000 miles

US-Northern Asia (Japan/Korea/China):
Y/B/M: 30,000 miles
H/Q/K: 60,000 miles

US-Southeast/Southwest Asia, Micronesia, Southwest Pacific:
Y/B/M: 35,000 miles
H/Q/K: 80,000 miles

US-Africa (incl. South Africa)
Y/B/M: 35,000 miles
H/Q/K: 80,000 miles

US-Middle East
Y/B/M: 35,000 miles
H/Q/K: 80,000 miles
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Old Sep 6, 2017, 10:33 am
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If you don't clear before the flight, can you get activated by the GA on the waitlist? I thought I remembered reading something about if you don't clear prior to day of the flight, that you won't clear.

Maybe it was 3 hrs prior or something?

Can't find that post. I've used miles to upgrade a Q fare, ATL-CDG. Hoping for the upgrade.
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