Aug 9, 2016, 11:00 pm
Last edit by: LoganFlyer
Delta's Operational move from T5 to T2/3 at LAX:
Delta has moved to: T2 and T3 with eventual connector to TBIT (note: there is currently only airside bus service to stay securely between T2 & T3, the walking connector has not been built yet.)
Where to check bags: As of January 13, 2020, non-Sky Priority customers must check their bag(s) at the terminal their flight departs from, unless their flight departs from TBIT, in which case, they must check their bag at Terminal 2. Sky priority customers can check their bag at either terminal. See this link for more information.
Date(s) of move: May 12, 2017 - May 17, 2017
Here is a helpful chart from Delta which covers all Domestic / Int'l. transfer combos (AND TOTAL TRANSFER TIMES) between T2, T3 & TBIT.
New Bus Routes will help with connections:
- Circular Airfield Bus between TBIT, T2 and T3
- Airfield Bus between T2 and T3
Bus Map
Will there be a SkyClub: Yes, there is one in each terminal. Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse will remain.
- The SkyClub in T2 opened on May 20th (Former AC Maple Leaf Lounge)
pix in post 1058
- The SkyClub in T3 opened on May 24th (Former VX Loft)
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...d-updates.html
Where Will The Delta One Check In Lounge Be Located:
In T2, there is a small Delta One seating area with refreshments. An agent will escort you from the check in/lounge area through a back pathway up stairs to TSA precheck. Its a shorter walk to check-in at SkyPriority and easier if you have a carry on and don't want to drag it up a flight of stairs. 11/3/17)
Airlines joining DL in T2/3 for landside and departures:
- AeroMexico (T2)
- Virgin Atlantic (T2)
- WestJet (T3)
Landside T2 only, departures from TBIT:
- Virgin Australia
- Volaris
Landside T3 only, departures from TBIT:
- Avianca/Taca
- Copa (effective April 7)
- InterJet
Will there be secure links between T2-T3 and TBIT: Yes, the final plan is to let pax walk between all airside.
External Links:
Press Release: http://news.delta.com/delta-relocate...rough-19b-plan
Rough link showing T2/3 connector:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmrq1UEAEUiF3.jpg
Proposed schedule from LAWA presentation:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmMDLVUAA1vNM.jpg
Delta fact sheet:
http://www.lawa.org/uploadedFiles/LA...ease-Delta.pdf
Delta's LAX destination page featuring 'Delta Sky Way at LAX':
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-terminal.html
Delta has moved to: T2 and T3 with eventual connector to TBIT (note: there is currently only airside bus service to stay securely between T2 & T3, the walking connector has not been built yet.)
Where to check bags: As of January 13, 2020, non-Sky Priority customers must check their bag(s) at the terminal their flight departs from, unless their flight departs from TBIT, in which case, they must check their bag at Terminal 2. Sky priority customers can check their bag at either terminal. See this link for more information.
Date(s) of move: May 12, 2017 - May 17, 2017
Here is a helpful chart from Delta which covers all Domestic / Int'l. transfer combos (AND TOTAL TRANSFER TIMES) between T2, T3 & TBIT.
New Bus Routes will help with connections:
- Circular Airfield Bus between TBIT, T2 and T3
- Airfield Bus between T2 and T3
Bus Map
Will there be a SkyClub: Yes, there is one in each terminal. Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse will remain.
- The SkyClub in T2 opened on May 20th (Former AC Maple Leaf Lounge)
pix in post 1058
- The SkyClub in T3 opened on May 24th (Former VX Loft)
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...d-updates.html
Where Will The Delta One Check In Lounge Be Located:
Delta will temporarily offer dedicated check-in space in Terminal 2 (first door closest to T1) while a long-term Delta One experience is finalized.
Airlines joining DL in T2/3 for landside and departures:
- AeroMexico (T2)
- Virgin Atlantic (T2)
- WestJet (T3)
Landside T2 only, departures from TBIT:
- Virgin Australia
- Volaris
Landside T3 only, departures from TBIT:
- Avianca/Taca
- Copa (effective April 7)
- InterJet
Will there be secure links between T2-T3 and TBIT: Yes, the final plan is to let pax walk between all airside.
External Links:
Press Release: http://news.delta.com/delta-relocate...rough-19b-plan
Rough link showing T2/3 connector:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmrq1UEAEUiF3.jpg
Proposed schedule from LAWA presentation:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmMDLVUAA1vNM.jpg
Delta fact sheet:
http://www.lawa.org/uploadedFiles/LA...ease-Delta.pdf
Delta's LAX destination page featuring 'Delta Sky Way at LAX':
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-terminal.html
LAX 2017 Terminal Move: The Definitive Thread
Jun 21, 2017, 1:01 pm
#916
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 6,546
Reporting back on my experience with the terminal move and having an AS/DL connection (T6 to T3) at LAX. My AS flight fortunately arrived pretty close to on time. I asked a flight attendant on the flight and they had no knowledge about the TBIT/T2/T3 delta connector and said to ask someone from Delta. Decided I would trust the Flyertalk reports and attempt to find the shuttle rather than try to re-clear security on a busy holiday weekend.
Hustled quite quickly through the T6/T5/T4/TBIT connectors as I wasn’t sure how long this would all take. Fortunately I’ve been in TBIT once before and had a pretty good idea of the layout of the terminal. Went to the north end and jiburi’s write-up of his experience helped me a lot. Deltas map on their website is helpful in showing the shuttle is at the north end, but other than that not so much. There is not a single sign in TBIT in regards to the shuttle, and I didn’t see any delta employees around. I kept going further knowing it has to be somewhere on this north end. I happened to look left and saw a walkway/path that led to a large open area down below and saw a couple people, and decided I would go down and ask if they knew where the Delta shuttle goes. Fortunately, I was in the right spot and they were handling the unloading & loading of these shuttles. Waited 5 or 10 minutes and got on, and was asked which terminal I was going to. They went directly from TBIT to T3, without a stop at T2 and it was very fast. When unloading at T3 there were plenty of signs regarding the shuttle. Clearly, they aren’t expecting many people to use the shuttle from TBIT to T2/T3 given the lack of signs at TBIT, but it would be helpful if they could put at least one sign out.
Arrived to T3 with I’d say about a half hour to spare. The reports about the quality of T3...I don't think I have anything to add. I'm glad I didn't have to spend a long amount of time there. Thank you for everyone's contributions to the thread.
Hustled quite quickly through the T6/T5/T4/TBIT connectors as I wasn’t sure how long this would all take. Fortunately I’ve been in TBIT once before and had a pretty good idea of the layout of the terminal. Went to the north end and jiburi’s write-up of his experience helped me a lot. Deltas map on their website is helpful in showing the shuttle is at the north end, but other than that not so much. There is not a single sign in TBIT in regards to the shuttle, and I didn’t see any delta employees around. I kept going further knowing it has to be somewhere on this north end. I happened to look left and saw a walkway/path that led to a large open area down below and saw a couple people, and decided I would go down and ask if they knew where the Delta shuttle goes. Fortunately, I was in the right spot and they were handling the unloading & loading of these shuttles. Waited 5 or 10 minutes and got on, and was asked which terminal I was going to. They went directly from TBIT to T3, without a stop at T2 and it was very fast. When unloading at T3 there were plenty of signs regarding the shuttle. Clearly, they aren’t expecting many people to use the shuttle from TBIT to T2/T3 given the lack of signs at TBIT, but it would be helpful if they could put at least one sign out.
Arrived to T3 with I’d say about a half hour to spare. The reports about the quality of T3...I don't think I have anything to add. I'm glad I didn't have to spend a long amount of time there. Thank you for everyone's contributions to the thread.
Jun 24, 2017, 7:15 am
#917
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 1
Flyertalk newbie here. I'm flying to Sydney next week on a DL/VA codeshare, so this info about the LAX terminal switch is super helpful to know ahead of time. Glad I checked beforehand.
Sounds like I shouldn't expect functional showers at either SkyClub when I arrive in LAX Wednesday? The ones at T2 SkyClub will still probably be out of commission? If so, what a bummer. I've got two flights before my LAX/SYD flight and was really hoping to freshen up before that last long flight.
Sounds like I shouldn't expect functional showers at either SkyClub when I arrive in LAX Wednesday? The ones at T2 SkyClub will still probably be out of commission? If so, what a bummer. I've got two flights before my LAX/SYD flight and was really hoping to freshen up before that last long flight.
Jun 24, 2017, 8:36 am
#918
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Welcome to Flyertalk BertramCooper, glad you found us!
I was at LAX T2 SkyClub last night. The shower rooms were definitely there, though I can't tell you if they were functional as I did not use them. The club closed at 11 'due to construction' though I observed no construction zones so they could be working on the showers for all I know.
They did give me a pass to move over to the VA lounge (just across from the SkyClub) which stayed open later. I did not notice if they had showers though.
I was at LAX T2 SkyClub last night. The shower rooms were definitely there, though I can't tell you if they were functional as I did not use them. The club closed at 11 'due to construction' though I observed no construction zones so they could be working on the showers for all I know.
They did give me a pass to move over to the VA lounge (just across from the SkyClub) which stayed open later. I did not notice if they had showers though.
Jun 24, 2017, 3:52 pm
#919
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Cranky Flier has a nice post on the impact of the move on on time performance. Bottom line: it helped everybody, but helped Delta the most. Delta (including Connection) improved from 64% to 82% on time comparing April 13-30 to June 1-18. Compass operating as Delta Connection improved from 55% to 78%. There are caveats, though.
At least operationally, this does look like it's working out to be a win-win-win-win-win (on the whole, statistically). ^
At least operationally, this does look like it's working out to be a win-win-win-win-win (on the whole, statistically). ^
I'm disappointed that Cranky Flyer didn't retract the obvious mistake. I'm also not surprised that Delta ran with it and smugly posted it on their news feed without verifying the accuracy of the report.
Jul 2, 2017, 10:06 am
#920
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 613
Need opinions. Flying to LAX on United and switching to Delta--T7 to T3. We only have limited experience with LAX and only as a destination. Originally had 1 hr 45 min between connections but recent schedule change makes the connection time 1 hour 5 minutes.
Is 65 minutes enough time to get from T7 to T3 for inexperienced travelers?
Is 65 minutes enough time to get from T7 to T3 for inexperienced travelers?
Jul 2, 2017, 10:30 am
#921
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Need opinions. Flying to LAX on United and switching to Delta--T7 to T3. We only have limited experience with LAX and only as a destination. Originally had 1 hr 45 min between connections but recent schedule change makes the connection time 1 hour 5 minutes.
Is 65 minutes enough time to get from T7 to T3 for inexperienced travelers?
Is 65 minutes enough time to get from T7 to T3 for inexperienced travelers?
T7 and T3 are on opposite sides of the airport, so using the airside connection isn't wise at all - you're much better off going outside. It's still probably a 10-15 minute walk, though, or a 20 minute bus trip factoring in a buffer for wait time.
Add to this that LAX is often contested and your inbound flight may arrive late to the gate, and that you won't be protected if you no show across two different tickets; I would rethink this plan if you have any power to do so.
Jul 2, 2017, 10:41 am
#922
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Need opinions. Flying to LAX on United and switching to Delta--T7 to T3. We only have limited experience with LAX and only as a destination. Originally had 1 hr 45 min between connections but recent schedule change makes the connection time 1 hour 5 minutes.
Is 65 minutes enough time to get from T7 to T3 for inexperienced travelers?
Is 65 minutes enough time to get from T7 to T3 for inexperienced travelers?
Jul 2, 2017, 10:51 am
#923
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Blue Ridge, GA
Posts: 5,512
Need opinions. Flying to LAX on United and switching to Delta--T7 to T3. We only have limited experience with LAX and only as a destination. Originally had 1 hr 45 min between connections but recent schedule change makes the connection time 1 hour 5 minutes.
Is 65 minutes enough time to get from T7 to T3 for inexperienced travelers?
Is 65 minutes enough time to get from T7 to T3 for inexperienced travelers?
Give or take, 45 minutes to walk to T3 with carry-on, clear security - even with Pre-Check - and power walk to the gate. If you sit close to the UA boarding door and land on schedule, you should make the DL flight.
Jul 2, 2017, 11:05 am
#924
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Need opinions. Flying to LAX on United and switching to Delta--T7 to T3. We only have limited experience with LAX and only as a destination. Originally had 1 hr 45 min between connections but recent schedule change makes the connection time 1 hour 5 minutes.
Is 65 minutes enough time to get from T7 to T3 for inexperienced travelers?
Is 65 minutes enough time to get from T7 to T3 for inexperienced travelers?
I suggest that you also take a look at the wikipost in the 2017 LAX Connecting / Connection / Connections thread in the Los Angeles forum where there is additional information including up to date airport maps.
Jul 2, 2017, 12:19 pm
#925
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 613
Thanks for the replies on my LAX connection. I have backup plans that include driving from LAX to San Diego. My original plan was to avoid driving through any part of LA. I had some extra miles and the flights were from Santa Barbara on United to LAX and San Diego on Delta. Seemed like a good plan at the time but with the schedule change I don't think we can make it. I will probably take the United flight and drive to San Diego.
Apppears that LAX is almost as bad as LA traffic.
Apppears that LAX is almost as bad as LA traffic.
Jul 2, 2017, 3:17 pm
#926
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Location: NYC
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Thanks for the replies on my LAX connection. I have backup plans that include driving from LAX to San Diego. My original plan was to avoid driving through any part of LA. I had some extra miles and the flights were from Santa Barbara on United to LAX and San Diego on Delta. Seemed like a good plan at the time but with the schedule change I don't think we can make it. I will probably take the United flight and drive to San Diego.
Apppears that LAX is almost as bad as LA traffic.
Apppears that LAX is almost as bad as LA traffic.
Jul 2, 2017, 3:48 pm
#927
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 613
Thanks to everyone for the advice.
I have been following this thread for a few months and things seemed very difficult at LAX--especially for someone not familiar with the airport.
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Jul 2, 2017, 4:41 pm
#928
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Note that if the schedule change was a Delta schedule change, it's possible they would be willing to redeposit the miles for your LAX-SAN ticket without penalties if you call and point out (honestly) that the schedule change and terminal move together resulted in the ticket becoming non-viable for you now. Usually, the necessary change to allow that to be possible is an hour, but if you're close to that (45-55 minutes or so) there's a reasonable chance they'll do it anyway. Can't hurt to ask.
(Can't see OP's status on mobile, but if they are plat/diamond, of course they get free redeposit anyway...)
(Can't see OP's status on mobile, but if they are plat/diamond, of course they get free redeposit anyway...)
Jul 2, 2017, 6:39 pm
#929
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: North Carolina
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Note that if the schedule change was a Delta schedule change, it's possible they would be willing to redeposit the miles for your LAX-SAN ticket without penalties if you call and point out (honestly) that the schedule change and terminal move together resulted in the ticket becoming non-viable for you now. Usually, the necessary change to allow that to be possible is an hour, but if you're close to that (45-55 minutes or so) there's a reasonable chance they'll do it anyway. Can't hurt to ask.
(Can't see OP's status on mobile, but if they are plat/diamond, of course they get free redeposit anyway...)
(Can't see OP's status on mobile, but if they are plat/diamond, of course they get free redeposit anyway...)
Wasn't something that Delta normally does.
Jul 2, 2017, 6:40 pm
#930
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Each ticket is a one-way. I have decided to drive from Santa Barbara to eliminate any problems.
Thanks to everyone for the advice.
I have been following this thread for a few months and things seemed very difficult at LAX--especially for someone not familiar with the airport.
Thanks to everyone for the advice.
I have been following this thread for a few months and things seemed very difficult at LAX--especially for someone not familiar with the airport.
FWIW, I've been through LAX (as a connecting passenger) a couple of times since the change. While T3 definitely has a long way to go quality-wise (that was a known quantity before the move though) I found transferring between T2 and T3 via the Delta shuttles to be a breeze.
I expect that any LAX terminal transfer that involves terminals not connected behind security would be a pain though.
Last edited by ty97; Jul 2, 2017 at 9:06 pm