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LAX 2017 Terminal Move: The Definitive Thread

LAX 2017 Terminal Move: The Definitive Thread

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Delta's Operational move from T5 to T2/3 at LAX:


Delta has moved to: T2 and T3 with eventual connector to TBIT (note: there is currently only airside bus service to stay securely between T2 & T3, the walking connector has not been built yet.)

Where to check bags: As of January 13, 2020, non-Sky Priority customers must check their bag(s) at the terminal their flight departs from, unless their flight departs from TBIT, in which case, they must check their bag at Terminal 2. Sky priority customers can check their bag at either terminal. See this link for more information.

Date(s) of move: May 12, 2017 - May 17, 2017

Here is a helpful chart from Delta which covers all Domestic / Int'l. transfer combos (AND TOTAL TRANSFER TIMES) between T2, T3 & TBIT.

New Bus Routes will help with connections:
- Circular Airfield Bus between TBIT, T2 and T3
- Airfield Bus between T2 and T3

Bus Map

Will there be a SkyClub: Yes, there is one in each terminal. Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse will remain.
- The SkyClub in T2 opened on May 20th (Former AC Maple Leaf Lounge)
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- The SkyClub in T3 opened on May 24th (Former VX Loft)

https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...d-updates.html

Where Will The Delta One Check In Lounge Be Located:

Delta will temporarily offer dedicated check-in space in Terminal 2 (first door closest to T1) while a long-term Delta One experience is finalized.
In T2, there is a small Delta One seating area with refreshments. An agent will escort you from the check in/lounge area through a back pathway up stairs to TSA precheck. Its a shorter walk to check-in at SkyPriority and easier if you have a carry on and don't want to drag it up a flight of stairs. 11/3/17)

Airlines joining DL in T2/3 for landside and departures:
- AeroMexico (T2)
- Virgin Atlantic (T2)
- WestJet (T3)

Landside T2 only, departures from TBIT:
- Virgin Australia
- Volaris

Landside T3 only, departures from TBIT:
- Avianca/Taca
- Copa (effective April 7)
- InterJet

Will there be secure links between T2-T3 and TBIT: Yes, the final plan is to let pax walk between all airside.

External Links:
Press Release: http://news.delta.com/delta-relocate...rough-19b-plan

Rough link showing T2/3 connector:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmrq1UEAEUiF3.jpg

Proposed schedule from LAWA presentation:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmMDLVUAA1vNM.jpg

Delta fact sheet:
http://www.lawa.org/uploadedFiles/LA...ease-Delta.pdf

Delta's LAX destination page featuring 'Delta Sky Way at LAX':
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-terminal.html
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Old Jan 8, 16, 11:33 am
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LAX 2017 Terminal Move: The Definitive Thread

Richard Anderson talked today on his weekly employee phone update about the airports on the Delta system that will see updates/improvements starting in 2016.

Among the airports RA talked about was moving LAX operations to terminal 2 and 3. He did not really go into any more detail.

I have heard through other sources that this might happen. Today is the first time I heard RA actually say it. Kind of surprising considering they just updated terminal 5...but things do change in all industries.
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Old Jan 8, 16, 11:42 am
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Good news in my book. Terminal 5 is a crap hole with no good restaurant options. Sorry I refuse to eat at mcdonald's.

And since Delta doesn't care about Alaska airlines anymore the T5-T6 terminal connector is not as important. That said how many people do fly into LAX on Alaska and connect to DL at LAX?
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Old Jan 8, 16, 11:52 am
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Terminal 3 is a nightmare; Delta would pretty much need to bulldoze it and start over. Eep.

On the other hand, a clean slate investment in LAX could give Delta one of the best passenger experiences at the airport if they more or less start from scratch reimagining the terminal layouts...
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Old Jan 8, 16, 11:53 am
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Originally Posted by mridley2 View Post
Good news in my book. Terminal 5 is a crap hole with no good restaurant options. Sorry I refuse to eat at mcdonald's.

And since Delta doesn't care about Alaska airlines anymore the T5-T6 terminal connector is not as important. That said how many people do fly into LAX on Alaska and connect to DL at LAX?
The new market across from the sky club that opened a year or two ago is actually pretty nice - overpriced, yes, but I actually enjoy the food there. Worth a try if you haven't been in there - it looks like a grab and go joint from the outside but there is more to it once you go in.
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Unless this is another large reconstruction project (ala LGA/JFK), I will be very skeptical.

If done well, it would have the advantage of getting them next to all their palls (and airside connectivity is an issue at LAX).
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Terminal 5 is pretty awful. A move to 2 or 3 would also mean less time sitting on a hotel shuttle.
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Old Jan 8, 16, 12:23 pm
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Terminal 5 is pretty awful. A move to 2 or 3 would also mean less time sitting on a hotel shuttle.
Only in 1 direction.

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Old Jan 8, 16, 12:27 pm
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A move to 2 or 3 would also mean less time sitting on a hotel shuttle.
Gain time when departing ... lose it again when arriving. Or vv
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Old Jan 8, 16, 12:28 pm
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Originally Posted by mridley2 View Post
Good news in my book. Terminal 5 is a crap hole with no good restaurant options. Sorry I refuse to eat at mcdonald's.

And since Delta doesn't care about Alaska airlines anymore the T5-T6 terminal connector is not as important. That said how many people do fly into LAX on Alaska and connect to DL at LAX?
That McD's is long gone. It has been a duty free for a while now
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Old Jan 8, 16, 12:30 pm
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Originally Posted by WWads View Post
Terminal 5 is pretty awful. A move to 2 or 3 would also mean less time sitting on a hotel shuttle.
A lot of money has been spent on T5, and the terminal itself and the restaurants have improved considerably.

The real problem is congestion, too many people in too small a place. United's T7 and T8 are ghost towns by comparison.

But it seems LAX wants to move DL out and then AA would get some gates relocated to T5.

Originally Posted by mridley2 View Post
And since Delta doesn't care about Alaska airlines anymore the T5-T6 terminal connector is not as important. That said how many people do fly into LAX on Alaska and connect to DL at LAX?
DL runs flights out of T6, and AA passengers use the tunnel as well to get between T4 and T6.

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Old Jan 8, 16, 12:31 pm
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Originally Posted by exwannabe View Post
Unless this is another large reconstruction project (ala LGA/JFK), I will be very skeptical.

If done well, it would have the advantage of getting them next to all their palls (and airside connectivity is an issue at LAX).
RA's words were there is an effort in Los Angeles, and a letter of intent was signed with the city of Los Angeles, to rehabilitate terminals 2 and 3, and move to terminals 2 and 3, and this would become the biggest terminal facility at LAX.

He brought this up, by saying over and above the DL capital budget for 2016, some hub airports would be undertaking construction projects. He mentioned, ATL, SEA, LAX, and SLC.
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Old Jan 8, 16, 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Silver Meteor View Post
RA's words were there is an effort in Los Angeles, and a letter of intent was signed with the city of Los Angeles, to rehabilitate terminals 2 and 3, and move to terminals 2 and 3, and this would become the biggest terminal facility at LAX.

He brought this up, by saying over and above the DL capital budget for 2016, some hub airports would be undertaking construction projects. He mentioned, ATL, SEA, LAX, and SLC.
This was hinted at in Delta's application for a JV with Aeromexico. In it, they pledged to co-locate facilities at LAX. That was only going to happen if Delta got a new facility — where T2 and T3 make the most sense. Aeromexico is already there, so are Virgin Atlantic and Virgin Australia. It would also provide for easier connections to SkyTeam international carriers operation in TBIT. The question is, if Delta moves to T2/3, is there enough space elsewhere for:

Air Canada, Avianca, Hawaiian Air, Sun Country, TACA, Volaris, WestJet (Though they're also a DL partner, so maybe they stay...), Allegiant Air, Boutique Air, Frontier, JetBlue, Spirit and Virgin America (maybe they also stay because of relationship with Virgin Australia/Atlantic...)
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Old Jan 8, 16, 12:49 pm
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Originally Posted by mridley2 View Post
Good news in my book. Terminal 5 is a crap hole with no good restaurant options. Sorry I refuse to eat at mcdonald's.

And since Delta doesn't care about Alaska airlines anymore the T5-T6 terminal connector is not as important. That said how many people do fly into LAX on Alaska and connect to DL at LAX?
I don't understand all the hate for LAX T5. I find it perfectly acceptable post-renovation, save for the narrow and drab T5-T6 connector.

The McDonald's has been gone for quite some time. The remaining restaurants look appealing enough, though I admit I haven't tried any of them.

Delta uses gates in T6 itself, so the deteriorating AS relationship is irrelevant if DL still can't fit its entire operation in T5.
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Old Jan 8, 16, 1:35 pm
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Lemonade is a really good restaurant in T5 and the SC is now quite acceptable after all the renovations. Still, I wouldn't complain about switching terminals at LAX if the terminal DL moves to is built from scratch.
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Old Jan 8, 16, 1:48 pm
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The popcorn-fun of this is that a potential DL move to T2/T3 would help AA/Oneworld become more competitive at LAX. I think the following would happen:

- AA takes over most/all of T5 and keeps half of T6 (and of course stays at T4)
- AS stays at T6
- QR relocates from T2 to T5/T6
- WS and the Virgin brands stay at over at T2/T3
- The other carriers would be redistributed to the leftover gates at T5/T6.

It's a good opportunity for both Oneworld and Skyteam to consolidate operations at LAX.
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