Last edit by: Dr Jabadski
Bilt Rewards Mastercard WikiPost
(10/7/23 Original author (Dr Jabadski) note: As I posted here on 9/9/23 Considering Ive been salivating about simple no-cost points-etizing (like monetizing) my condo payments for about 25 years, I see Bilt as a game changer. I should have added almost a Holy Grail (a thing that is eagerly pursued or sought after). I successfully applied for a Bilt Mastercard 1 month ago thus Im far from an expert. Both before and after approval I posted multiple questions many times on this thread and several other FTers were highly gracious and informative. Thought a WikiPost might save some others a good deal of time, effort and aggravation, at least in not repeating my questions and searching for the answers. I certainly hope the experts will edit and update this WikiPost as necessary. Im also exercising Writer's Prerogative to officially coin the term pointsetize, like monetize convert into or express in the form of currency, to earn points from payments which otherwise would not earn points.)
Bilt Rewards Mastercard (Bilt MC) was first launched in mid-2021, in good part as a no fee way to charge and pointsetize rent payments. (Perhaps the only no fee way to pointsetize rent payments.) There are multiple reports of earning Bilt points for paying condominium monthly maintenance/common charges, sometimes even when the word condo or condominium is in the transaction description.
Bilt MC is a personal credit card, WF reports credit card information to the various credit bureaus and Bilt MC will count toward Chase 5/24.
This post and this post (both from 9/7/23) describe shutdown reports perhaps related to micro transactions, fluctuating rent payment amounts or multiple rent payments. This 10/11/23 post includes several references to Reddit user quotes about shutdowns and several Reddit Bilt quotes in response.
Linksto Bilt Rewards Terms of Use and Evolve Bank & Trust (Bilt Technologies) Customer Account Agreement. The Terms state Bilt may make available to you a Bilt Rent Account (Account), which is a transaction bank account that can be used by you solely to make rent payments. The Agreement states: For the avoidance of doubt, the Account is a transaction bank account that can be used by you solely to make rent payments. For the avoidance of doubt, this is not an account that you may use to deposit or withdraw funds for any other purposes outside of rent payments.
Bilt MC is a metal card weighing ~16 grams (comparisons: AmEx biz plat 18.5 gm, AmEx Gold 15 gm, Chase Sapphire Reserve 13 gm, traditional plastic card 5 gm).
Bilt Mastercard is issued and managed by Wells Fargo. Bilt Rewards is a separate website and app (which contains some credit card information but not as much as WF website).
Most reports are of instant approvals, Wells Fargo reconsideration phone number and experiences are not well documented. Reported initial Credit Limits vary $4,000 - $30,000 with higher limits more commonly reported. This post (9/1/23) describes one instance of a Something went wrong message upon application and the steps toward approval several days later.
In March/April 2025 Bilt initiated a new and different process for paying rent and HOA fees which requires preauthorization and/or "auto-pre-authorization" within 5 days of payment.Rent payments can be made in multiple different ways. Bilt will provide a (bank) routing number and account number. ACH rent payments can be sent (deposited) by Bilt or withdrawn by a managing company.
Bilt MC is shipped via trackable no-signature-required First Class mail in a small (4.5 x 6.5) white box with unique packaging inside as pictured at the bottom of this post. As of Feb 2024 no reports of expedited shipping.
Reports on this thread starting in late November 2023 indicate this "quasi-SUB" may be offered randomly and/or only to some people, selection criteria unknown. This post may be the only report of being offered the quasi-SUB prior to Bilt Mastercard application, based on existing Bilt Rewards account. Bilt's quasi-SUB" is offered via an email and a text message notification the same day as card receipt informing of 5x/5 days/max 50K (email quoted verbatim in this post). (Quasi* due to very short duration in contrast to many traditional SUBs of 3 month duration.) Please note this quasi-SUB maxs out at $12,500 (not $10,000) and tax payments will count. No reports yet of returns and their effect on quasi-SUB. (* quasi- a combining form meaning resembling, having some, but not all of the features of, used in the formation of compound words: quasi-definition; quasi-monopoly; quasi-official; quasi-scientific.)
Newly earned Bilt points will display as pending until 5 transactions per statement cycle. After 5 transactions, points will post and become available shortly after a transaction, before statement date. The Bilt Rewards website has a transaction counter which disappears upon reaching 5.
Bilt points for linking partner programs (100 points each) and for adding a credit card to Bilt Wallet (100 points each for first 3) post immediately. Original author received 500 point bonus for first rent payment.
Bilt Rewards points are transferable at 1:1 usually within a few minutes to multiple different airline and hotel programs.
Theres discussion of the long term viability of Bilt with some of those posts linked at the bottom of this post after BREAK.
Bilt Status Tiers: Blue - anyone enrolled in Bilt Rewards with under 25,000 points, Silver - 25,000 points earned, Gold - 50,000 points earned, Platinum - 100,000 points earned. Tier status earned at any point in a year remains active through the end of the following year. Earn Interest on Points (Silver, Gold, Platinum Tiers) is minimal, discussed on this post and this post.
Bilt Points Quest Trivia was discontinued as of July 2024.Bilt Points Quest Trivia on the first of each month offers up to 250 points for correctly answering, within 10 seconds, 6 (out of 15-20) questions. Must get first 5 questions (10, 20, 30, 40, 50 points) correct to see the 6th bonus 100 point question. Theres often a Reddit thread with the Q & A. (Point Quest - October 2023 Answers) The lower half of this post has comments from a highly experienced test taker regarding memory, recall and studying for Points Quest Trivia.
Bilt Rent Free may also have been discontinued in 2024 or 2025.Bilt also has various RentFree games, available a few days prior to and/or on the 1st of the month, different people get different games. Could be a Family Feud style question with enough time to Google answers or a Where's Wally? (Bilt Brick) type of game or something else. Successful completion enters to be one of 3 people for whom Bilt pays their monthly rent (up to $2500).
List of Bilts Rent Day promotions going back to October 2022 at the bottom of the page here: DEALSPOINTS.
June 2024: Bottom of this post describes one persons experience paying a significant assessment (and earning points) with Bilt MC, at this time (only 3 weeks later) no report of clawback or shutdown (based on using Bilt to pay rent more than once a month and/or for something other than rent/condo fees).
June 2024: Bottom of this post contains Bilt quotes regarding Bilt BiltProtect.
June 2024: Important post (and link) stating that WF is losing money every month on Bilt.
(10/7/23 Original author (Dr Jabadski) note: As I posted here on 9/9/23 Considering Ive been salivating about simple no-cost points-etizing (like monetizing) my condo payments for about 25 years, I see Bilt as a game changer. I should have added almost a Holy Grail (a thing that is eagerly pursued or sought after). I successfully applied for a Bilt Mastercard 1 month ago thus Im far from an expert. Both before and after approval I posted multiple questions many times on this thread and several other FTers were highly gracious and informative. Thought a WikiPost might save some others a good deal of time, effort and aggravation, at least in not repeating my questions and searching for the answers. I certainly hope the experts will edit and update this WikiPost as necessary. Im also exercising Writer's Prerogative to officially coin the term pointsetize, like monetize convert into or express in the form of currency, to earn points from payments which otherwise would not earn points.)
Bilt Rewards Mastercard (Bilt MC) was first launched in mid-2021, in good part as a no fee way to charge and pointsetize rent payments. (Perhaps the only no fee way to pointsetize rent payments.) There are multiple reports of earning Bilt points for paying condominium monthly maintenance/common charges, sometimes even when the word condo or condominium is in the transaction description.
Bilt MC is a personal credit card, WF reports credit card information to the various credit bureaus and Bilt MC will count toward Chase 5/24.
This post and this post (both from 9/7/23) describe shutdown reports perhaps related to micro transactions, fluctuating rent payment amounts or multiple rent payments. This 10/11/23 post includes several references to Reddit user quotes about shutdowns and several Reddit Bilt quotes in response.
Links
Bilt MC is a metal card weighing ~16 grams (comparisons: AmEx biz plat 18.5 gm, AmEx Gold 15 gm, Chase Sapphire Reserve 13 gm, traditional plastic card 5 gm).
Bilt Mastercard is issued and managed by Wells Fargo. Bilt Rewards is a separate website and app (which contains some credit card information but not as much as WF website).
Most reports are of instant approvals, Wells Fargo reconsideration phone number and experiences are not well documented. Reported initial Credit Limits vary $4,000 - $30,000 with higher limits more commonly reported. This post (9/1/23) describes one instance of a Something went wrong message upon application and the steps toward approval several days later.
In March/April 2025 Bilt initiated a new and different process for paying rent and HOA fees which requires preauthorization and/or "auto-pre-authorization" within 5 days of payment.
Bilt MC is shipped via trackable no-signature-required First Class mail in a small (4.5 x 6.5) white box with unique packaging inside as pictured at the bottom of this post. As of Feb 2024 no reports of expedited shipping.
Reports on this thread starting in late November 2023 indicate this "quasi-SUB" may be offered randomly and/or only to some people, selection criteria unknown. This post may be the only report of being offered the quasi-SUB prior to Bilt Mastercard application, based on existing Bilt Rewards account. Bilt's quasi-SUB" is offered via an email and a text message notification the same day as card receipt informing of 5x/5 days/max 50K (email quoted verbatim in this post). (Quasi* due to very short duration in contrast to many traditional SUBs of 3 month duration.) Please note this quasi-SUB maxs out at $12,500 (not $10,000) and tax payments will count. No reports yet of returns and their effect on quasi-SUB. (* quasi- a combining form meaning resembling, having some, but not all of the features of, used in the formation of compound words: quasi-definition; quasi-monopoly; quasi-official; quasi-scientific.)
Newly earned Bilt points will display as pending until 5 transactions per statement cycle. After 5 transactions, points will post and become available shortly after a transaction, before statement date. The Bilt Rewards website has a transaction counter which disappears upon reaching 5.
Bilt points for linking partner programs (100 points each) and for adding a credit card to Bilt Wallet (100 points each for first 3) post immediately. Original author received 500 point bonus for first rent payment.
Bilt Rewards points are transferable at 1:1 usually within a few minutes to multiple different airline and hotel programs.
Theres discussion of the long term viability of Bilt with some of those posts linked at the bottom of this post after BREAK.
Bilt Status Tiers: Blue - anyone enrolled in Bilt Rewards with under 25,000 points, Silver - 25,000 points earned, Gold - 50,000 points earned, Platinum - 100,000 points earned. Tier status earned at any point in a year remains active through the end of the following year. Earn Interest on Points (Silver, Gold, Platinum Tiers) is minimal, discussed on this post and this post.
Bilt Points Quest Trivia was discontinued as of July 2024.
Bilt Rent Free may also have been discontinued in 2024 or 2025.
List of Bilts Rent Day promotions going back to October 2022 at the bottom of the page here: DEALSPOINTS.
June 2024: Bottom of this post describes one persons experience paying a significant assessment (and earning points) with Bilt MC, at this time (only 3 weeks later) no report of clawback or shutdown (based on using Bilt to pay rent more than once a month and/or for something other than rent/condo fees).
June 2024: Bottom of this post contains Bilt quotes regarding Bilt BiltProtect.
June 2024: Important post (and link) stating that WF is losing money every month on Bilt.
Bilt Mastercard
#841




Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 69
Given the financial situation reported, the fact the bonus is capped at 50k pts anyway, and the fact I recently burned 70k AS miles on a reward flight that the bonus on 50k would more than replenish, seems it's time to do my first bilt transfer out... Plus realistically AS is the only transfer partner I otherwise have no easy way to add significant points to given you can only churn the BOA cards once every couple years anymore- while all the other partners I can trivially get whatever points I needed from MR/UR/TYP transfers.
#843




Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: BKK or SFO
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 883
So I got the 5x for 5 days offer.
Not clear when the 5x ends. I activated the card in June 22.
5 full days would mean June 26th end date.
Or is it June 27?
I tried the ai chat but not confident in their answer as AI is notoriously bad at math.
I had an unexpected return for 4k today and now I need to spend ~6.6k tomorrow if it is still 5x for me.
I cannot do it today because I maxed out my CL. Can't make cash payment until tomorrow..oops.
Edit- I read upthread that the 5 days starts from the day after you receive the card. So June 27 is my end date.
Not clear when the 5x ends. I activated the card in June 22.
5 full days would mean June 26th end date.
Or is it June 27?
I tried the ai chat but not confident in their answer as AI is notoriously bad at math.
I had an unexpected return for 4k today and now I need to spend ~6.6k tomorrow if it is still 5x for me.
I cannot do it today because I maxed out my CL. Can't make cash payment until tomorrow..oops.
Edit- I read upthread that the 5 days starts from the day after you receive the card. So June 27 is my end date.
Last edited by Travelchurner; Jun 26, 2024 at 10:34 pm
#844




Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SJC
Programs: AA, AS, Marriott
Posts: 6,959
It would certainly be a good precedent in a court case. There was already one in Canada where Air Canada was forced to pay out to a passenger who acted in good faith based on bad information that the AI chatbot gave.
#845




Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: san francisco.
Programs: Marriott Plt, OW Blue!
Posts: 2,090
so that becomes the limit of a possible bonus and will, I think mean I will transfer points out incase the doors are closed
Id rather have the points I have and not gamble waiting for the transfer partner Id like on the whole amount I have, knowing that Id only get 50k more
Id rather have the points I have and not gamble waiting for the transfer partner Id like on the whole amount I have, knowing that Id only get 50k more
#846
FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: USA
Programs: UA Platinum, 1MM
Posts: 13,472
Have to say that the Bilt card is one of the most finicky when it comes to rejecting transactions where I have to resort to other CC in my wallet to complete. It is very aggressive at not approving.
#848




Join Date: Jan 2020
Programs: SQ Gold, Marriott Lifetime Platinum, Caesars Diamond, Hilton Diamond, Atmos Silver, IHG Platinum
Posts: 2,228
Transferred all my points (~20k) to AS. I don't spend on this card other than the first of the month because I put dining on CSR. Will hit Silver by EOY.
Let's say that you hit 50k points from rent alone and don't really spend on the card otherwise. Then you're at Silver. (Rent is capped at 100k points per year which isn't enough for Gold.) By the qualifying points method you need 75k more points to hit Gold and 150k more points to hit Platinum, which is (if you can't consistently use rent day promos) 25k / 50k on dining.
But you can just organically hit Gold/Plat by spending the same amount (not just on dining) with nothing on rent. VFTW says he hits Plat with card spend on the Rent Day promotions, hmm...
Let's say that you hit 50k points from rent alone and don't really spend on the card otherwise. Then you're at Silver. (Rent is capped at 100k points per year which isn't enough for Gold.) By the qualifying points method you need 75k more points to hit Gold and 150k more points to hit Platinum, which is (if you can't consistently use rent day promos) 25k / 50k on dining.
But you can just organically hit Gold/Plat by spending the same amount (not just on dining) with nothing on rent. VFTW says he hits Plat with card spend on the Rent Day promotions, hmm...
Last edited by gudugan; Jul 1, 2024 at 9:08 am
#850




Join Date: Jan 2020
Programs: SQ Gold, Marriott Lifetime Platinum, Caesars Diamond, Hilton Diamond, Atmos Silver, IHG Platinum
Posts: 2,228
Yes, they have transferred already within 1 hour. I didn't get the email confirmation from Bilt yet though. EDIT: I got the email
On the AS site, it shows up as
07/01/2024 POINTS.COM BILT ACCRUAL Credited
07/01/2024 POINTS.COM BILT BONUS Credited
So they just buy these from Points.com?
On the AS site, it shows up as
07/01/2024 POINTS.COM BILT ACCRUAL Credited
07/01/2024 POINTS.COM BILT BONUS Credited
So they just buy these from Points.com?
Last edited by gudugan; Jul 1, 2024 at 11:35 am
#851
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,338
Did the full AS transfer up to the limit. The limit and Point Quest going away shows Bilt doesnt want to cause a run on the bank + cost cutting.
#852




Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: NYC
Programs: Kettle Class
Posts: 1,050
Oh wow, I've been waiting since the morning and of course the Bilt Support AI chatbot says to wait some more. I feel like this happens every Rent Day there's a meaningful partner bonus.
#853

Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: DCA, IAD
Programs: Hyatt Globalist; AA Plat. Pro.
Posts: 249
Still waiting for my miles after 6 hours. Platinum status, expecting 58,000 miles to hit my Alaska account.
#854


Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: TYS/BNA/ATL
Programs: UR, TYP, MR, C1, WF, AA, UA, WN, BA, AS, AV, AC, Choice, Hyatt, IHG, Hilton, Wyndham, Marriott
Posts: 2,371
more than 7 hours passed since my transfer, still nothing in my Alaska account. Bilt ran out of money buying miles from points.com?
Last edited by yugi; Jul 2, 2024 at 5:51 am
#855




Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: NYC
Programs: Kettle Class
Posts: 1,050
My points posted into my AS account after about 9 hours, FYI.



