Mar 11, 2020, 10:13 am
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Any member who can provide a constructive, helpful answer to a question; or post constructively in reply to a member's point-of-view, is welcome to post.
All FT rules apply, including avoiding personalized, snarky, political, other off-topic, commercial, and repeatedly disruptive content.
Discussion of general economic impacts of Covid-19 belongs in the OMNI forum, not here.
Discussion and critique of political/government actions to aid the economy or which is far more political than related to COVID-19 is for the OMNI/PR forum, not here.
This is a protocol for posting adopted by the forum Moderator team:Please follow this protocol, based on FlyerTalk Rules and long-standing FlyerTalk best practices. Doing so will help keep the thread open, and allow our moderator team to aid members, rather than having to resort to discipline.
•Constructive, respectful posts, views, opinions, questions, and replies, related to the topic are welcome. Avoid commenting on members personally, or posting off-topic or political messages.
•While respectful disagreement of a posted view is allowed, don’t call-out posters to prove their points. FlyerTalk has never required discussion standards at the level of a Ph.D. dissertation defense, or a trial court witness cross-examination.
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COVID-19: Lounge thread for thoughts, concerns and questions
Mar 21, 2020, 3:32 pm
#1217
Join Date: Mar 2005
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There are a few things in SEA that I need to finish before I leave. (I'm helping my 80 year old mother in law right now, we need to make sure she's got supplies after I leave.) What I've seen for the next few days have involved a 2nd stop or backtracking (SEA-DEN-SFO/LAX/LAS-EWR-BGR.) DL isn't an option, and the flights on AA were a bit fuller than I wanted to be on.
Mar 21, 2020, 3:37 pm
#1218
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Mar 21, 2020, 3:43 pm
#1219
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It was a temporary stop, now already lifted.
https://nypost.com/2020/03/21/air-tr...-nyc-airports/
https://nypost.com/2020/03/21/air-tr...-nyc-airports/
And good luck everyone.
Mar 21, 2020, 3:44 pm
#1220
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 3,809
You may not be showing symptoms, but you may still be infected (and dangerous to others).
That's the exact problem
Mar 21, 2020, 3:48 pm
#1221
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Mar 21, 2020, 3:49 pm
#1222
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 3,809
And Bavaria explicitly allows you to go outside for a walk or a bike ride if you avoid contact with other people not living in your household.
I guess the reason for the full lockdown was to give the police the power to break up gatherings of people (they could do nothing while it was still a recommendation).
I guess the reason for the full lockdown was to give the police the power to break up gatherings of people (they could do nothing while it was still a recommendation).
Mar 21, 2020, 3:52 pm
#1223
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And Bavaria explicitly allows you to go outside for a walk or a bike ride if you avoid contact with other people not living in your household.
I guess the reason for the full lockdown was to give the police the power to break up gatherings of people (they could do nothing while it was still a recommendation).
I guess the reason for the full lockdown was to give the police the power to break up gatherings of people (they could do nothing while it was still a recommendation).
Mar 21, 2020, 3:59 pm
#1224
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Bay Area
Programs: DL SM, UA MP.
Posts: 12,729
Are there enough resources being put into developing serological tests?
Or is everyone chasing potentially lucrative vaccines and antiviral cocktails?
Or is everyone chasing potentially lucrative vaccines and antiviral cocktails?
Mar 21, 2020, 4:03 pm
#1225
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Posts: 28,122
It's premature at this point but consideration should be given to how long it will take to restart the various sectors of transportation and commerce. It will take a massive effort to get things up and running again when that time comes.
Mar 21, 2020, 4:04 pm
#1226
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 3,809
Are we beginning to see the results of lockdowns in Europe?
The daily growth in diagnosed cases went down from 25% to 12/15/18% in Germany/France/Spain respectively. Could be a statistic fluke of course, but happened in all 3 countries and pretty much at the expected time.
The daily growth in diagnosed cases went down from 25% to 12/15/18% in Germany/France/Spain respectively. Could be a statistic fluke of course, but happened in all 3 countries and pretty much at the expected time.
Mar 21, 2020, 4:44 pm
#1228
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It's Not Just Toilet. Paper & Hand-Sanitizer - Condoms & Pot Sales Soar
It's Not Just Toilet-Paper & Hand-Sanitizer - Condoms & Pot Sales Soar Amid Global Lockdown | Zero Hedge
A shortage of condoms has developed at retail stores. Sex toy company Womanizer has reported that their brand of condoms has seen a 60% surge in sales in Italy, a 40% rise in France, and a 71% jump in Hong Kong. The company said sex toy sales across the world have also risen in the last month.
We were the first to note that virus-porn-themed videos by amateurs on Pornhub were becoming popular in early March. Since our reporting, the amount of "coronavirus porn" videos have jumped 10x on the site.
With consumers loading up on condoms and sex toys, their next move appears to be the purchasing of marijuana.
Bank of America recently said that higher demand for cannabis had been seen in the US as tens of millions of people are confined to their homes as the government limits mass gatherings and shutters businesses.
We were the first to note that virus-porn-themed videos by amateurs on Pornhub were becoming popular in early March. Since our reporting, the amount of "coronavirus porn" videos have jumped 10x on the site.
With consumers loading up on condoms and sex toys, their next move appears to be the purchasing of marijuana.
Bank of America recently said that higher demand for cannabis had been seen in the US as tens of millions of people are confined to their homes as the government limits mass gatherings and shutters businesses.
"Our checks across North America were consistent: regardless of region, cannabis purchases have accelerated," BofA analyst Christopher Carey said in a note. "While likely on pantry loading, it's not unreasonable to think there will be some boost to per capita consumption as people stay at home longer."
Mar 21, 2020, 4:47 pm
#1229
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Hmm, the same kids rushing to spring break will probably be keeping their Tinder activities up.
More turns at the Russian Roulette.
As for pot, does prolonged chronic use reduce your oxygen intake capacity?
More turns at the Russian Roulette.
As for pot, does prolonged chronic use reduce your oxygen intake capacity?
Mar 21, 2020, 4:50 pm
#1230
Join Date: Sep 2009
Programs: SPG Plat, AE*E, Hyatt Diamond, AAdv, BA Exec
Posts: 257
When do you plan to book trips again?
Hey all
With all this craziness, all existing trips in June, July and even December are up in the air.
We were thinking of booking a trip from Canada to Bora Bora/Fiji/New Zealand in Feb 2021. Am I being too optimistic? No flexible booking or no fee cancellation options on Air Tahiti Nui so not sure what we should do.
With all this craziness, all existing trips in June, July and even December are up in the air.
We were thinking of booking a trip from Canada to Bora Bora/Fiji/New Zealand in Feb 2021. Am I being too optimistic? No flexible booking or no fee cancellation options on Air Tahiti Nui so not sure what we should do.