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CO giving SWUs wouldn't surprise me. Upgrades on BF-Equipped routes to Hawaii would. UA's F seat and service to Hawaii are virtually indistinguishable from domestic F. CO's BF service to Hawaii on Widebodies and 752s is noticeably different from standard domestic F.

ssullivan

Oct 13, 2009 12:14 pm

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Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12620575)

UA has 96 total 752's. Subtract the PS fleet and that's 80-some UA planes with the same F count as our 753's, sometimes more...aren't there some with 26F and some with 24F?

I think you're thinking of DL, who has 752s with either 26 or 24 F seats in the domestic configuration.

ssullivan

Oct 13, 2009 12:16 pm

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Originally Posted by fozz (Post 12620649)

And lets not forget that you can indeed catch a widebody domestically somewhat regularly on UA.

I can't wait to see the shenanigans threads over in UA land.

Yep, it's becoming rare that I book an itinerary on UA that doesn't include a 767 or 777. They're easy to catch on flights between hubs.

fozz	Oct 13, 2009 12:18 pm

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Originally Posted by FT Lurker (Post 12622070)

Looking at this chart, I think the other shoe to drop for CO is SWU. Perhaps the third (:confused:) shoe is Hawaii upgrades?

I particularly like the fact that they listed WN on that chart.

ssullivan

Oct 13, 2009 12:18 pm

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Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 12620768)

reading the united board is funny, people saying things like now people that don't know they are elite will get upgrades over me because i know the system :D

blissworld and channa both have an extreme skewed view of CO, and obviously always book the lowest fares, i had better upgrades as silver than they as 'plat'.

Yeah I don't get the really low upgrade rates some Platinums on here post, unless they're only flying EWR-West Coast flights. There are a lot more domestic routes than transcons, but on here, sometimes you'd think that the only mainline service CO has are flights between EWR and the West Coast, which the occasional IAH-LAX/SFO/LAS flight. :rolleyes:

FT Lurker

Oct 13, 2009 12:21 pm

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Originally Posted by fozz (Post 12621047)

My personal hangup is that we have folks who used to fly CO, no longer do, come in and, in essence, rant needlessly about the same thing. This is getting old.

I absolutely agree with you. Dead horse icon, anyone?

ssullivan

Oct 13, 2009 12:22 pm

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Originally Posted by kingalien (Post 12620779)

I just laughed at a UA post that mentioned now they have to sweat out the upgrade at the gate. Don't know where that person has been but lately IME most UA upgrades have been last minute anyway if flying from a hub city.

No kidding. I've seen an increasing number of upgrades processed at the gate on UA — and I've also seen two cases where I arrived at the gate late, and they had given my upgrade to someone else because I didn't come up when they called me. UA doesn't just print the boarding passes like CO when they clear you; they wait for you to come up, then look at your itinerary, and pull the upgrade instrument. Some agents will just move on if you don't show up after a few minutes. On the other hand, I didn't go posting about it on FT and demanding compensation either.

FT Lurker

Oct 13, 2009 12:23 pm

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Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 12622113)

Ah yes, teh UA Hawaii subfleet. Excellent point. ^

ConciergeMike

Oct 13, 2009 12:25 pm

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Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 12622003)

About darn time. Income is good - does this district pay differential pay for the tougher assignments (e.g. Behavioral/Developmental or In-School Suspension) or long-term substituting?

It's a company that deals with ~90 districts in the area. They post needs of member districts as they are known - don't have too many details about it yet since the job board on their site is currently empty.

ssullivan

Oct 13, 2009 12:25 pm

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Originally Posted by COFreqFlyer (Post 12620850)

Wish there was a way I could import... having to enter all 800+ flights in by hand one at a time... :rolleyes:

At least openflights allows importing for free.

Are you importing 800+ flights to the Penalty Box FM, or your own? We only started the Penalty Box one on January 1, 2009.

When I started my personal FM in 2007, it took about a month to get all of my data entered.

ssullivan

Oct 13, 2009 12:28 pm

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Originally Posted by J.Edward (Post 12620980)

If you can fly on the off times, off routes and off dates, CO's system is fantastic. If the planes don't break and you make your connection, CO's system is fantastic. However if you don't, then you've got (or at least from my point of view as a Plat on CO, EXP on AA and 1K on UA) a materially inferior product.

I'll have you know most of my upgrades are on business-travel heavy routes on Mondays and Fridays. And my CO planes very rarely break, and I haven't missed a connection on CO in over a year, and I've only got about two missed connections in the last five years. So there. :p

Olton Hall

Oct 13, 2009 12:31 pm

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Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12621985)

There will be plenty more insiders, I promise. Teh Popcorn Cart will start to be wheeled through UA-land every now and again.

I need to find the time to read popcorn threads. I like the new signature.

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Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12622226)

Congrats on getting the creditials. I know some districts have cut back on subs (one sub for whole school :eek:) as a cost cutting measure this year.

gbryan84

Oct 13, 2009 12:32 pm

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Originally Posted by J.Edward (Post 12620980)

Everyone has their own perspective with biases, preferences, etc. but I'm not sure I would call their view extremely skewed as I've found my CO experience to echo theirs. :(

If you can fly on the off times, off routes and off dates, CO's system is fantastic. If the planes don't break and you make your connection, CO's system is fantastic. However if you don't, then you've got (or at least from my point of view as a Plat on CO, EXP on AA and 1K on UA) a materially inferior product.

CO's having to play catch up and I don't think there's any way to argue against that and in the upcoming alliance we have seen (and I suspect we will continue to) CO having to improve itself (on the customer & loyalty front) more than UA.

The good news is that CO's is willing to change and adapt and do so in a manner that takes into consideration their stakeholders. They deserve major credit for this IMHO and it's a shame their peers have not adopted a similar philosophy of working with their customers.

Sorry for the soapbox and I hope you continue to enjoy an excellent EUA rate. :)

Congrats on AA Exp. When did that happen?

ssullivan

Oct 13, 2009 12:32 pm

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Originally Posted by fozz (Post 12622164)

I particularly like the fact that they listed WN on that chart.

Yep. Real fair comparison there, considering it's the only airline in the chart that doesn't have a F cabin.

MBM3	Oct 13, 2009 12:37 pm

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Originally Posted by fozz (Post 12620973)

At the end of the day, airlines are like cell phone companies, they all suck in one way or another.

You just have to pick your poison and contrary to popular belief, the grass on the other side is rarely greener.

So true my friend, so true.

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