Shopping aside, how is that any different than several other EU airports?

IMO, the layout makes little sense as it requires a LONG walk for Shengen to non-Schengen transits - especially when transiting piers is required.

I doubt they have their own ground ops people in SYD. Although, nothing would surprise me with DL. :)

Assuming they are contracting group ops, I'd be curious to know what their contacts allow for in significant service reductions.

Ahh - very good point. Like you said before, anything is possible...

My experience with airports in Europe is limited to the old craphole at ATH, LHR, FRA in the middle of the night, ORY (which I don't remember a thing about), and SNN. AMS kicks the crap out of all of those, and I used it as O&D/my local train station. Hence my low threshold for being impressed.

I wanna know more than anything if Keyshawn is legit or if he has licensed people just executing what he comes up with.

I certainly don't have any extensive EU airport experience either. :)

My point was just that train stations and gate-side screening are somewhat the norm in a lot of major EU airports. The train station and (from what I've heard) shopping at AMS certainly make it ^ but the layout is still :rolleyes: to me.

Either way, the opportunities to connect in AMS are almost gone, so on we go to FRA... :rolleyes:

Or MUC which is far nicer.

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Exactly. It might be the norm in cities that I haven't visited. The first time thru AMS made me want to go back. I don't really count myself as having any kind of experience at FRA since that was chartered military and it was basically a sterile environment.

There's also MUC/VIE/ZRH for EU connections, and in the next few years BRU and the new/improved ATH, not to mention all of the SAS hubs.

Unrelated: I need someone who is a lot better with numbers than me...my exam next week is 130 questions. Passing score for normal people is 157, but I have to pass 5% over minimum...lowest whole number would be 165. No penalty for wrong answers. There's got to be a way to solve for how many correct answers put me in the neighborhood of a passing score. Anyone? Bueller? Any help appreciated.

I got my yard all mowed up today.....looking nice and supposed to rain today

Another example: Mike Rowe. Discovery channel seems to know how to pick 'em.

Ms GadFly watches HGTV all the time. I have two problems with that channel. First of all, all these projects they do where they make over a whole house for $1000 DON'T INCLUDE LABOR!! Design On A Dime is ridiculious. If they factored in the cost of having a designer and two contractors on-site for a full day, they'd have to change the name of the show to "Design on a second mortgage"

Secondly, their big "HGTV Dream Home Giveaway" is a big ol' sham. They build this moster house in some super-rich neighborhood, they put on a 2 hour special showing all the stuff they put into it (of course mentioning all the brands by name for promotional purposes), then the person who "wins" the contest can't afford to live there. Everyone who has EVER won the house has had to sell it almost immediately. The one family that relocated and tried to stay couldn't afford the taxes, drove themselves to poverty, and had to sell the house for pennies on the dollar just to get rid of it. Not to mention that anyone who COULD afford to move into a multi-million dollar house in the middle of a ritzy neighborhood wouldn't be entering HGTV contests on the web anyway.

I put HGTV's Dream Home Giveaway right up there with Oprah's "Everyone gets a car" thing....the only difference is that HGTV does it every year.

Or refunded. :(
I'd go with the VA deal becoming a code-share on all Oz runs when DL pulls the route.
You like the gate-side screening? I hate that I have to leave the lounge early because I'll have to wait in line and answer 5 stupid questions that do nothing to enable security, especially when I'm already air-side. And then I get to sit in the pen waiting for them to actually start boarding the plane. Not a fan at all. At least they have lavs in their pens.

I like that there is a train right in the building, but most Euro airports do that. Otherwise it is somewhat meh to me.
Yeah...It was easily a 20 minute walk (plus 10 minute wait for emigration) for my connection between TRD and EWR. Part of that is because we went to the lounge which was another pier past the EWR flight's gate, but it was still a hike. The airport also looks a little tired and dirty inside to me. I do like that they have a ton of seating spread out, some of which is recliner chairs for sleeping.

AMS is laid out very poorly. The signage is good but having to walk around that much while avoiding the different stores and sitting areas is a real pain.

The airport I wish I would have had more time in was BRU, especially the Schengen side. Wide open terminal area with all of the shops located in one area works very well.

FRA T2 excels at this as well.

Ok, good to know I'm not the only one who doesn't love AMS. I read far too many praises for that place...

I definitely agree about BRU. Looping through the mall to get from the checkin area to the Schengen gates was annoying but the terminal itself was quite nice (although a bit blurry because we were jogging :)).

FRA T2 is nice as well. Although, I did feel like an animal with the cage they have over head. :p

One of the EU airport I'd most like to see is CPH. The pictures I have seen show some very nice architecture.

I am not interested in knowing the answer to that question.

My lawn is looking excellent - mowed it two days ago.

Very nice here, high 70s. Of course, I'm on my laptop while at the Firestone Complete Auto Care Center.