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Originally Posted by fozz
(Post 12085730)
And 13 varieties of 757s!!
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Originally Posted by Mackieman
(Post 12085719)
I thought that too about NW a couple of years ago, but if I remember right I was educated by the Wizard of Fozz concerning the DC9, in that NW actually owned the aircraft outright and did not have any payments due on them. That made their operating costs significantly lower than other aircraft that were either leased or had lien holders, even with the godawful amount of fuel they guzzle. I wonder if DL keeps them around on the semi-regional routes until the market turns around.
My bet is the first ones to go are the 757s and DC9s. They already sold a bunch of 757s at the end of last year but they still have many more. DL, also trying to go for the world-class airline, has enough of an ego to go buy all new aircraft and not think about the economics of keeping the DC9s. |
Originally Posted by colpuck
(Post 12085747)
hmmm maybe that is what LK is going to do. LK runs the clock on his non-compete clause in private equity and then brings some adult supervision to DL.
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Originally Posted by fozz
(Post 12085756)
While that is very true, the reality is DL has way too many aircraft and will likely start parking some soon.
My bet is the first ones to go are the 757s and DC9s. They already sold a bunch of 757s at the end of last year but they still have many more. DL, also trying to go for the world-class airline, has enough of an ego to go buy all new aircraft and not think about the economics of keeping the DC9s. |
Originally Posted by sbm12
(Post 12084064)
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Mother nature went for a jog this afternoon in NYC. Tonight she hung her sweat socks over the city to dry them out. It is disgusting outside here. It's quite nice this afternoon, though. |
Originally Posted by colpuck
(Post 12085717)
I remembered when you wrote that. Personally, I don't even think it is nice. The whole airport needs to be shutdown, torn down, and re-built from the ground up. I am thinking something like an AMS one terminal concept.
Originally Posted by fozz
(Post 12085745)
It honestly depends where in JFK you are.
T4 is really nice, though the lounges are not airside. T7 I really like. T1, T5 and T8 are relatively new so they are quite nice from what I hear. The lack of one big terminal is nice in that it provides a bit more of an intimate feel. Now, T2 and T3 should be blown to bits. Part of the problem with JFK is DL as they are WAY bigger than their facilities allows. B6 and AA built new terminals before they went expansion crazy. DL just decided to use apron space and steady-stairs. :rolleyes: I disagree about the intimate feel. In AMS, I didn't at all feel like it was impersonal or not intimate in some way. The halls are so wide and layout so logical that I didn't at all feel like I was a cog in the machine.
Originally Posted by fozz
(Post 12085756)
DL, also trying to go for the world-class airline, has enough of an ego to go buy all new aircraft and not think about the economics of keeping the DC9s.
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I'm channel surfing before I sit and study for the afternoon, and I would really like to know who at HGTV thought it was a good idea to give Keyshawn Johnson an interior design show?
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Afternoon Box
Originally Posted by ConciergeMike
(Post 12085527)
Coffee use is imminent...I'll be in my fully human state in about 30 minutes.
Originally Posted by fozz
(Post 12085745)
It honestly depends where in JFK you are.
T4 is really nice, though the lounges are not airside. T7 I really like. T1, T5 and T8 are relatively new so they are quite nice from what I hear.
Originally Posted by Mackieman
(Post 12085761)
I suppose that's true. But which of the 757 fleet would they want to get rid of? Their transcon 757 is fairly nice with the AVOD. Perhaps the old TWA birds?
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Originally Posted by ConciergeMike
(Post 12085801)
I'm channel surfing before I sit and study for the afternoon, and I would really like to know who at HGTV thought it was a good idea to give Keyshawn Johnson an interior design show?
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Originally Posted by Mackieman
(Post 12085761)
I suppose that's true. But which of the 757 fleet would they want to get rid of? Their transcon 757 is fairly nice with the AVOD. Perhaps the old TWA birds?
Likely some of the NW 752s. They are some of the oldest 752s out there so it's about time they go out to pasture... or a third world country. |
Originally Posted by ConciergeMike
(Post 12085801)
I'm channel surfing before I sit and study for the afternoon, and I would really like to know who at HGTV thought it was a good idea to give Keyshawn Johnson an interior design show?
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Originally Posted by fozz
(Post 12085825)
Likely some of the NW 752s. They are some of the oldest 752s out there so it's about time they go out to pasture... or a third world country.
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Originally Posted by ConciergeMike
(Post 12085801)
I'm channel surfing before I sit and study for the afternoon, and I would really like to know who at HGTV thought it was a good idea to give Keyshawn Johnson an interior design show?
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Originally Posted by colpuck
(Post 12085838)
They could go to Air Astana, I hear they operate the type (and sacrifice goats to them).
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Originally Posted by ConciergeMike
(Post 12085791)
I disagree about the intimate feel. In AMS, I didn't at all feel like it was impersonal or not intimate in some way. The halls are so wide and layout so logical that I didn't at all feel like I was a cog in the machine. Additionally, at JFK, i'm not sure if the land they have would efficiently accommodate such a design. Personally, i'm still waiting for them to tear down the Pan Am hangars and build a terminal there. Maybe DL can have its very own "North" terminal. :D
Originally Posted by ConciergeMike
(Post 12085791)
Is it ego or is it hubris? I would vote Column B on that one, personally. It's also like DL thinks they have some kind of Manifest Destiny to fly everywhere no matter the logic of doing so.
The SYD flights don't seem to be doing too well. One day advance purchase for LAX-SYD under $600. The flights are going out weight restricted and they have developed the UA syndrome of being late. Last Sundays flight was three hours late. |
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