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Scott6067 Jan 27, 2009 3:16 pm


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 11152971)
The show talked about it as his first flight on AF1. That was not the case in either use of the term.

Well if it was after noon on last Tuesday that he flew, an AirForce F-16 would be AirForce one as long as he is on board. But I dont think he has flown anywhere since becoming president.

CO 1E Jan 27, 2009 3:16 pm


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 11152971)
The show talked about it as his first flight on AF1. That was not the case in either use of the term.

It was just his first flight on an official aircraft, from Midway to Andrews, two weeks before the Inauguration, correct?

sdm1130 Jan 27, 2009 3:17 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11152995)
If it was Bush's first flight the definitions would have been correct. Because it's Obama, and to a lesser extent because he's of the media-friendly party, facts are mere roadblocks to a good story.

:)

It still bugged the aerogeek inside of me.

CO 1E Jan 27, 2009 3:17 pm


Originally Posted by Scott6067 (Post 11152997)
Well if it was after noon on last Tuesday that he flew, an AirForce F-16 would be AirForce one as long as he is on board. But I dont think he has flown anywhere since becoming president.

See my post below - I believe it was his first flight on an official aircraft, but two weeks before the Inauguration.

sdm1130 Jan 27, 2009 3:18 pm


Originally Posted by CO 1E (Post 11153004)
It was just his first flight on an official aircraft, from Midway to Andrews, two weeks before the Inauguration, correct?

Midway to Andrews - correct. I'm no sure exactly when the flight took place, but it was pre-inauguration.

So, the callsign was not Air Force One and the plane he was on (a 752) was not even the typical Air Force One (what the NatGeo show was all about).

rolov Jan 27, 2009 3:19 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 11152976)
Anyone think 15,000mi. is decent for a one-way upgrade on an IAH-PTY flight that is showing C1 D1 Z1 A1? I'd rather not sit in the back for four hours, and I think I can handle the loss of 15K RDM. Essentially, that would just eat up most of this year's Extra Mile Bonus.

Do it , what is another 15k when you burned a few hundred K on the honeymoon rtw.

CO 1E Jan 27, 2009 3:19 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 11152976)
Anyone think 15,000mi. is decent for a one-way upgrade on an IAH-PTY flight that is showing C1 D1 Z1 A1? I'd rather not sit in the back for four hours, and I think I can handle the loss of 15K RDM. Essentially, that would just eat up most of this year's Extra Mile Bonus.

I suppose it is worth it if you really really do not want to sit in the back. I would tough it out in coach, but that is just me. I survived 11 hours in a CO coach seat last week, although it was on a 764 with no one sitting next to me or accross from me.

CO 1E Jan 27, 2009 3:20 pm


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 11153022)
Midway to Andrews - correct. I'm no sure exactly when the flight took place, but it was pre-inauguration.

It was two weeks prior to inauguration. I remember watching him arrive at Andrews live on CNN, and they mentioned that he had eaten a burger en route.

sdm1130 Jan 27, 2009 3:21 pm

I'd rough it in Y as well - 4 hours in an exit row aisle (assuming that is where you are) is tolerable.

I have a hard time using miles to upgrade to a domestic F seat.

ConciergeMike Jan 27, 2009 3:22 pm


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 11153011)
:)

It still bugged the aerogeek inside of me.

True. The crime against aerogeekery does bother me but not nearly as much as the media-friendly party's reputation of saying "Fact, schmact". Come to think of it re: official aircraft, I saw a bunch of the official Gulfstreams parked at remote stands when I was serving in Qatar (the base I was at was also home to the administrative and real-time targeting portions of the War on Terror air component) and I think I posted about my sighting of one of the 752's going into ACY.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Jan 27, 2009 3:23 pm


Originally Posted by CO 1E (Post 11153034)
I suppose it is worth it if you really really do not want to sit in the back. I would tough it out in coach, but that is just me. I survived 11 hours in a CO coach seat last week, although it was on a 764 with no one sitting next to me or accross from me.

Actually, I forgot I was renting a car once I get to PTY. Perhaps I should stick to coach if booze isn't an issue anyhow... It's certainly not worth 15K just for the airline food, especially considering I have a reclining exit row aisle.

ConciergeMike Jan 27, 2009 3:23 pm


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 11153042)
I have a hard time using miles to upgrade to a domestic F seat.

No caveat for a 752?

sbm12 Jan 27, 2009 3:27 pm


Originally Posted by AMF in NJ (Post 11152918)
I see. This is something that needs to be rectified post-haste! :D

Yeah...I need to write it out. I also need to dig out my photos and scan them in. That was back in my pre-digital days. :eek:

I actually had to pause the AFO special when he ordered the burger medium-well as I was laughing and crying so hard. My wife was making fun of me for voting for a guy who doesn't even know how to order a burger. The whole thing was wrong. On the plus side, he did take the fries, in addition to whatever vegetables he was talking about.

sdm1130 Jan 27, 2009 3:29 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11153066)
No caveat for a 752?

Funny you ask, as that crossed my mind as I was making my last post. :)

A 752 to FL is too short of a flight. The rare 752 transcons are impossible to get mileage upgrades on (and there is still the AVOD in the back). I suppose the only time I'd use miles to upgrade myself on a (non-European) 752 would be to LIM (or similar distance) if the upgrade chances looked like a long shot.

gbryan84 Jan 27, 2009 3:33 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 11152976)
Anyone think 15,000mi. is decent for a one-way upgrade on an IAH-PTY flight that is showing C1 D1 Z1 A1? I'd rather not sit in the back for four hours, and I think I can handle the loss of 15K RDM. Essentially, that would just eat up most of this year's Extra Mile Bonus.

If you can get a row to yourself in the back I'd save the miles. I did this run last year and got upgraded on all the legs.


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