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If you feel your account has been unfairly closed, consider filing a complaint with the Consumer Protection Financial Bureau:

CFPB's complaint form: http://www.consumerfinance.gov/complaint/

When someone reports an account closure here, a lot of the same questions get asked. It might be useful to answer some questions in advance. This could help figure out what happened or how to proceed:
  1. Did you transfer UR points to someone with a different address? Different last name?
  2. Did you sell UR points to someone?
  3. Approximately what percentage of your charges earned less than 5x points in the past 12 months?
  4. Did a Chase or non-Chase bank recently close one of your credit cards?
  5. Are you using up a large percentage of your credit line on all Chase and non-Chase credit cards?
  6. Is your total credit line with Chase much higher than with other banks?
  7. Did you apply for many credit cards or other forms of credit in the past 2 months? ("Many" may be hard to define.)
  8. If you have a Chase checking account how much did you typically deposit in money orders per month, if any?
  9. Did you recently start spending a lot more with Chase than in typical months?
  10. Is your monthly balance frequently close to your credit limit?
  11. Approximately what percentage of spending was on gift cards this year?
  12. How much of your bill do you typically pay using WM or KMart bill payment if any?
  13. Do you have a Chase mortgage or other account that might be profitable to Chase?
  14. Has your credit score or credit profile changed recently? As in: significantly more debt, more open credit lines, or a large drop in your credit score?
Related threads: 2013.1 2013.4
2013.9
2013.12 2014.6
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On 1/4/15, LivelyFL noted that 34 posts have referenced account closures (updated 1/25/15):
1, 55, 80, 108, 117, 129, 146, 165, 182, 212, 221, 222, 232, 235, 262, 272, 281, 326, 364, 410, 411, 428, 475, 477, 482, 513, 552, 586, 620, 648, 656, 662, 714, 718, 784 and 815.

Mortgasm provided more detail as follows:

001 - moarmiles little explaination - 'inconsistent spending'
055 - brettskyg chase gift cards tiny ms
080 - Artemk checking chase gift card, tiny MS, international wires, wall-mart BP
108 - TTnc4me (105 actually) no info
117 - rodsren
129 - Kybosh chase gift card checking
146 - mintcilantro - checking 6k/month MS, BB payments from another ss#, some MO/AP, 7new cards in 90days, short cycling
165 - newcomr - checking
182 - thehawk75 - heavy MSw/other banks,
212 - LRD - 2x spend of 20k /month (on two cards), checking
221 - iceman 77_7, no info
222 - jk2 no info
232 - hitman1420 checking , heavy MS activity (no number)
235 - clearlyanewb checking, MS activity (10k AGC and more), light credit history, 10 recent inquiries
262 - brc01 - shortcycling, some MS (18k/month over a few cards), 1
272 - rambo - 70% MS on 5 cards, WM BP of 16k/month on 5 cards
281 - prestonv - heavy MS - 20k/month on multiple chase cards, heavy WMBP (ink stayed open)
326 - pacupgo - false alarm, no shutdown
364 - edh101985 - tiny MS (bonus only) , 4 chase cards in 6 months,
410 - msetr - lots of freedom/ink ms
411 - standaman360 - international wires (business), million dollar balances,
428 - queensgambit - gambling transactions, UR point transfer from SO, 5 chase apps 3 new chase cc in 45 days, Blogger points coach
475 - dogloverjb - checking, international wires,
477 - ftomasz - 14 inquiries in 8 months, 5 chase, minimal MS, rapid upswing in credit, paying from multiple accounts
482 - liw5215 - Heavy MS, re-entered after 13 months
513 - thegasguru - checking, $3k/month MO to checking, NO MS, AP,
552 - LAXtoWorld - 3 cards in 30 days
586 - adavydov7 checking, $1k APs,
648 - CMHFlyerOH - checking, MO, 3k gift cards
656 - I can see for miles - Maxed UR 5x rewards on Freedom and Ink cards. Chased closed all accounts. Was approved for Ritz Carlton card 14 months later and did nothing unusual with it, other than lower CL from 30K to 10K to free up CL for possible approvals. Two subsequent Chase apps (Chase Ink and Marriott Rewards), on separate dates 3+ months later, were declined for a "previous unsatisfactory relationship ..."
662 - frogdog51 - Chase VGCs (Reapproved in 12 months)
677 - Subdawg - closed for piggybacking
714 - Mamibear - 'abuse' redcard MS
718 - maxswanson - MS, 11 chase cards, traded UR, (reapproved after 12 months)
752 - peaser - "reputational risk" associated with the business (decision reversed later)
757 - uncommonsensical checking, 3 Cashier's Check deposits with quick w/d (the w/d were to pay CHASE credit cards! ridiculous 'loss prevention' dept. gods). All CC's closed 2 days later. Tried EX Office- they seem to have zero power once the Mullah in loss prevention has issued a fatwa (my guess: some 27 year old with a god complex).
762 - knopfler - checking closed (all credit cards closed in both mine and Mrs. Knopflers accounts about three weeks after checking closure)
771 - milemonkey - 'reputational Risk" connected to Attorney General lawsuit
784 - unstable one: 2 cash deposits over 10k to chase checking
815 - dukerau - one time UR point sale, 77% spending is 5x,
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Old Sep 2, 2016, 7:36 am
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Originally Posted by silver6054
So any updates on this?
The executive office called, and said that the account closure was not a mistake. As always they won't tell you why.
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Old Sep 5, 2016, 8:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Happy
Be careful to use your personal card for business purpose.

Dont know about credit card but for checking accounts, it has been known banks closed the checking accounts if being used for business per the transaction pattern. Banks want business spend being put on business accounts. Though they dont seem to have objection the other way round. Must be something to do with compliance.
They get more interchange from business cards, so they would rather have personal spend on business cards instead of the other way around. As far as compliance goes, the rules are also much less strict on business cards - statement cycle length and all that - so they prefer you on a business card for that as well, but banks are really playing with fire by just taking people's word for it when they say they have a legitimate business and give them a card when it's clear they do not.
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Old Sep 6, 2016, 9:54 pm
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Originally Posted by corpgator
[...]but banks are really playing with fire by just taking people's word for it when they say they have a legitimate business and give them a card when it's clear they do not.
Why do you think so?
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Old Oct 2, 2016, 5:41 pm
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Chase shut me and my wife down for doing MS about 15 months back. Have been playing safe. Haven't applied for any cards after shutdown. What are the chances of getting approved for a card from them? Should I just be patient and just wait for another year before trying my luck?
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Old Oct 3, 2016, 4:52 pm
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Originally Posted by wildcat1313
Chase shut me and my wife down for doing MS about 15 months back. Have been playing safe. Haven't applied for any cards after shutdown. What are the chances of getting approved for a card from them? Should I just be patient and just wait for another year before trying my luck?
How much MS'ing were you doing a month? What card(s) was it? What was your CL?
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Old Oct 4, 2016, 2:52 pm
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I was shut down in March 2014. I think that was for depositing MO in my checking account.

I just applied for the sapphire reserve and got approved. I have activated the card and made some purchases. I hope I'm back in with chase again

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Old Oct 5, 2016, 10:29 am
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Originally Posted by mintcilantro
I was shut down in March 2014. I think that was for depositing MO in my checking account.

I just applied for the sapphire reserve and got approved. It remains to be seen if I can activate the card and use it.
I assume chase shut all your accounts checking and credit cards ?
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Old Oct 5, 2016, 11:05 am
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Originally Posted by SPLP007
I assume chase shut all your accounts checking and credit cards ?
yes..
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Old Oct 9, 2016, 8:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Java Cool Dude
How much MS'ing were you doing a month? What card(s) was it? What was your CL?
About 12k per month for about 8 months before shutdown. About 4K per month on chase ultimate at staples and about 8k on wife's Southwest cards. Mostly serve and multiple bill pays at Walmart. Was new to MS, so went a little overboard. We applied for 4 cards - 1 chase ultimate and southwest business on my account. 2 southwest cards on wife's account. Southwest business card is what ticked them off. Was with chase for almost 10 years before the shutdown.

Credit limit across all cards was about 60k.
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Old Oct 9, 2016, 9:12 pm
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Does anyone know if Chase shuts you down for closing a newly opened account? I have two Reserve cards, but don't want two. Long story what happened, so was wondering what would/could happen if I closed one? Should I just keep it for the year or convert to Freedom then close? Do they even close for bonus abuse? This would be a one-time thing and my last account with any issuer was opened in 2013. I just don't want to face AA over closing the account after the 100k posted.
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Old Oct 9, 2016, 9:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Nick92
Does anyone know if Chase shuts you down for closing a newly opened account? I have two Reserve cards, but don't want two. Long story what happened, so was wondering what would/could happen if I closed one? Should I just keep it for the year or convert to Freedom then close? Do they even close for bonus abuse? This would be a one-time thing and my last account with any issuer was opened in 2013. I just don't want to face AA over closing the account after the 100k posted.
You can only get the 100k bonus once in 24 months. The second Reserve card, if under the same name as the first one, would not be eligible for the bonus.
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Old Oct 12, 2016, 7:02 am
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Old Oct 12, 2016, 7:05 am
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I doubt it, that is an incredible opportunity, I'd probably figure out how to get two inks. I'd put regular spend on the card as well. It's not really "abuse" anyhow since it's a legitimate expense. Everyone "abuses" the Chase freedom it's just a very limited amount of UR you can get, Ink has a 250K UR limit so they have define their loss. It's the people (with various banks) that do crazy amounts per month and cycle through their limits three times a month that cause the red flag to come up. Of course, it's all YMMV but your scenario seems perfectly fine to me.
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Old Oct 12, 2016, 7:11 am
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Originally Posted by DeltaNeutral28
I doubt it, that is an incredible opportunity, I'd probably figure out how to get two inks. I'd put regular spend on the card as well. It's not really "abuse" anyhow since it's a legitimate expense. Everyone "abuses" the Chase freedom it's just a very limited amount of UR you can get, Ink has a 250K UR limit so they have define their loss. It's the people (with various banks) that do crazy amounts per month and cycle through their limits three times a month that cause the red flag to come up. Of course, it's all YMMV but your scenario seems perfectly fine to me.
Thank you for the reply. I have an Ink as well so I might put her as an AU and let her go crazy.
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Old Oct 12, 2016, 7:51 am
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Originally Posted by thrillhouse763
Thank you for the reply. I have an Ink as well so I might put her as an AU and let her go crazy.
Wait...I would reconsider. That's a significant amount of company liability/money to put on a personal card...can you/she float that much for a couple months? Also, can her/your personal and business income support that amount of monthly charges?

You/she are exposing yourselves to lots of risk.
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