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Old Mar 7, 2023, 5:21 pm
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One empty table in the dining area, and even the seating areas are pretty busy.

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Old Mar 8, 2023, 10:48 am
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
One empty table in the dining area, and even the seating areas are pretty busy.

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I was there last night and it was pretty busy
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Old Mar 8, 2023, 12:52 pm
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I was there last night and it was pretty busy
Were you in 2A on the 172?

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Old Mar 8, 2023, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by jjLDNY
BA owns the LHR CCR, they could turn away AA if they choose to and direct them to the AA lounge. BA & AA opened the Chelsea, Soho and Greenwich together.
They did. However when designing and conceptualising these lounges BA had around a thousand CCR eligible GGLs. Then they suddenly made that - what, probably nudging 10k?

I'd imagine that's why AA have moved the goalposts here.
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Old Mar 8, 2023, 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Wozza2404
They did. However when designing and conceptualising these lounges BA had around a thousand CCR eligible GGLs. Then they suddenly made that - what, probably nudging 10k?

I'd imagine that's why AA have moved the goalposts here.
Everything you're saying is true, but of that 9k increase if we use your numbers, the CCR is doing just fine (according to 80% of people in the CCR thread - food quality aside) and that is where a majority of those GGLs are flying through. How many of them are using JFK for domestics? I'd say less than 10% which is still very generous; it doesn't seem a hard fight for BA to make a case.
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Old Mar 8, 2023, 4:06 pm
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Originally Posted by jjLDNY
Everything you're saying is true, but of that 9k increase if we use your numbers, the CCR is doing just fine (according to 80% of people in the CCR thread - food quality aside) and that is where a majority of those GGLs are flying through. How many of them are using JFK for domestics? I'd say less than 10% which is still very generous; it doesn't seem a hard fight for BA to make a case.
And yet they can’t, so what does that tell you?
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Old Mar 8, 2023, 4:24 pm
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As I know everyone likes to keep tabs on the champagne offering. On 6th March the signature champagne was LPGS. I was on BA182 (2315 departure) so was pretty much the last person in the lounge, and there was still plenty to go around.
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Old Mar 9, 2023, 12:13 am
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
Were you in 2A on the 172?

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Old Mar 9, 2023, 12:47 am
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Originally Posted by zachihger
GGL has access to CCR in London for any flight, regardless of the flight duration.
That any flight being a BA flight, so BA pays for lounge access and decides who has access.

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GGL, who resides in the US, should be able to enjoy the same privileges offered to UK residents.
But they are, aren't they? Any BA flight is eligible for lounge access, which mirrors LHR CCR's access rules.

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BA should restore access to Chelsea lounge to the GGL passengers regardless of destination as long as they fling on one of the One World flights
There are uniform OW rules for lounge access. It is up to each individual OW airline to decide who gets access to any lounge not covered by the OW agreement. Whether AA wants to pay for access to the Chelsea lounge for BA's GGLs on domestic flights is for AA to decide. There is nothing for BA to restore here.
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Old Mar 9, 2023, 2:55 am
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Quick access question which I’m sure someone here will know the answer to:

Will I have access to the Chelsea Lounge if arriving on BA in F in the evening and departing the following afternoon in J to LAX? From the oneworld rules I think not but I’m not sure if different rules apply to this lounge.
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Old Mar 9, 2023, 3:00 am
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Originally Posted by TabTraveller
Quick access question which I’m sure someone here will know the answer to:

Will I have access to the Chelsea Lounge if arriving on BA in F in the evening and departing the following afternoon in J to LAX? From the oneworld rules I think not but I’m not sure if different rules apply to this lounge.
Nope. Same day only. In theory I think you can do it if your next day is before 6:00 am. But as far as I know there are no JFK-LAX flights before 6.
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Old Mar 9, 2023, 3:06 am
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Originally Posted by Markie
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Haha! Well belated greetings from 1A.

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Old Mar 9, 2023, 10:53 am
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Originally Posted by Genius1
You should have been granted access. Did you show your inbound F boarding pass?
Of course I did. I even pointed to where it said “Sold as BA 1234” (whatever the BA codeshare was) and argued that angle. Then I asked again at the F lounge (where I had already entered via the F wing, but that’s a different story). The agent there said “oh yeah they stopped allowing access when AA flights moved back to T3”

Originally Posted by jjLDNY
You shouldn't have been turned away as above, but that's besides the point.
What else should I have done?

BA & AA opened the Chelsea, Soho and Greenwich together.
Eh, that’s what they want you to think.
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Old Mar 9, 2023, 11:59 am
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Originally Posted by ijgordon
Eh, that’s what they want you to think.
And now you’ve gone and blown the whole conspiracy wide open!!!
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Old Mar 9, 2023, 12:42 pm
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Originally Posted by RichieMc
Nope. Same day only. In theory I think you can do it if your next day is before 6:00 am. But as far as I know there are no JFK-LAX flights before 6.
YMMV

Got in as GGL (with a guest) on a non-Flagship domestic flight yesterday (nice BA agent). LGPS, no Krug.

An American chap asked for "Champagne from France!" and got Moet lol.
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