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This community maintained wiki lists out all known airports on the BA network grading each airport in terms of its practical suitability for quick flight transfers. Three transfer categories are considered (and indicated as traffic lights from left to right in the following order)

Back to back: Immediate turnarounds without checked baggage, with an airside transfer and flying out on the same aircraft that operated the inbound flight
Transfer: Immediate turnarounds without checked baggage, with an airside transfer and flying out on a different aircraft (or airline) to the one that operated the inbound flight
Landside: Full arrival and departure sequence. It is assumed check-in for the onward flight is processed prior to the arrival at the airport.

Grading:
Excellent generally means you will leave the aircraft and find yourself in the boarding area for departure.
Good suggests that you may have to clear either security and/or passports before reboarding, but it should still be possible.
Reasonable: suggests possible but with risks attached
Poor: high risk and not advisable
Ungraded

Two caveats:
A) Sometimes things don't go to plan. E.g. EDI sometimes uses buses, which puts passengers landside and thus needing to reclear security. Ditto HAM.
B) The above needs to be combined with the turnaround time. MXP often has a generous back-to-back time, for example.


ABZ:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals decant into departure hall

ACE:
Back to back: Reasonable (if off season, there is a transfer channel just before passports); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

AGP:
Back to back: Excellent for Schengen, Risky if not. Schengen - immediate turnaround possible at gate area. Non-Schengen - there is a transit passageway back to airside on the left after passports, but there can be long delays at passports, achievable if you are willing to politely push in the queue. see here.

ALC:
Back to back: Reasonable if off season, but you do need to go fully airside if non Schengen. Small and efficient airport. Peak time: see here

ALG:
Back to back: Impractical due to visa and immigration processes.

AMS:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Poor. Arrivals decant into departure hall normally

ANE:
Back to back: Good - very small airport, tarmac walk. You may want to telephone the airport to let them know since there's no OLCI facility.

ARN:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable (arriving pax should watch for sign to gates 70-82) * see posts 593, 238 & 1298 for more details. Post 174 is a pictorial guide.

ATH:
Back to back: Reasonable but don't hang about, you need to enter Schengen immigration, then leave Schengen, and a fairly efficient security check. Distances aren't great.

BCN:
Back to back: Good to excellent (bit of a walk, small flight connection facility to the left of passport control, dedicated security but no passports; Transfer: Good (if non-Schengen), Reasonable (if Schengen); Landside: Reasonable

BER:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good: Landside: Reasonable to Poor. Not much transfer traffic here so no queues for transit security when doing B2B - bit of a walk though. Note you can't access the lounge if doing B2B.

BGY:
Back to back: Reasonable to Poor; Transfer: Reasonable to Poor: Landside: Reasonable to Poor. More details, click here.

BHD:
Back to back: Excellent (use stairs upwards between gates 5 and 6, against flow); Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

BIO:
Back to back: Reasonable, does involve going landside but small airport, airbridge rather than bus; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

BIQ:
Back to back: Reasonable, involves going through passports to landside, security and passports again, but you need to be off early since passport checks are thorough.

BJV:
Back to back: Not really feasible, there is no online check-in or App facility, you must check in at the gate. More details click here.

BOD:
Back to back: Reasonable but does involve going landside and back again. However it's a small airport and efficient.

BLL:
Back to back: Good (there is a clear transfer route after passport control to avoid a security check; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good

BLQ:
Back to back: Good (small airport but you have to go landside); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable (bus gates)

BRI:
Back to back: Good (small airport but you have to go landside); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

BSL:
Back to back:: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good (Bit of a walk to landside, but it's not a huge airport. See this post for info)

BRU:
Back to back: Excellent on the transfer route, reasonable if not; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Poor (see comments in post #246 , also 64 onwards)

BUD:
Back to back: Good. Airside transfer with quiet security channel (might need to ask staff to open it for you). More details here: BUD Back-to-back?

CAG:
Back to back: Reasonable, does involve going landside but small airport, airbridge rather than bus; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

CDG:
Back to back: Good now that BA use Terminal 2A. Transfer route well signed and drops you to entry to normal security check. No bussing. More details here : CDG Experience - Positive and a potential variant depending on the gate arrived into here.

CFU:
Back to back: Near impossible, no OLCI, you must present yourself at check-in. Process involves bus, passports, out to landside, short walk to departures building on right, security and bus. Security is bad on peak days

CGN:
Back to back: No OLCI, but on some dates it is still possible. See this post for details.

CHQ:
Back to back: Near impossible despite being a small airport, no OLCI so you can only get a boarding pass at the airport, and bus to and from gates

CMB:
Back to back: Excellent. Easy to do airside. Arriving and departing pax are not segregated. If you have your return boarding pass, just walk directly from arrival gate to departure gate.

CMF:
Back to back: Generally Good, involves going landside. Best avoid Saturdays, the main changeover day, when security is stretched.

CPH:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals decant into departure hall

CTA:
Back to back: Reasonable, there is a transfer route signed but seems obsolete. However small and efficient airport so still do-able if going via landside

DBV:
Back to back: Impractical. There's no online check in so you have to go landside and collect a boarding pass. Otherwise a very small airport

DUB:
Back to back: Good (if ex-LHR), Reasonable if ex-LCY (quicker plane turnaround); Transfer: Good if Common Travel Area, otherwise Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. May require passing security, so Fast Track helps. See this post for a photo guide. (As of June 2017 increased risk due to pax segregation at 200 gates and ongoing building work)

DUS:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if non-Schengen, Good if Schengen; Landside: Good. Arrivals decant into departure gate, though risk of bus to baggage hall

EDI:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable to Poor; Landside: Reasonable to Poor. Arrivals decant into departure hall normally, risk of bus to baggage hall

EFL:
Back to back: High risk on a Tuesday as only one flight, passport control is slow and turnaround time is approximately 50 minutes. OLCI is possible. Saturdays are possible if arriving on the early flight and leaving on the later flight. New terminal building is complete and fully operational, no buses involved, walk to terminal. Leave baggage hall via stairs, after the exit turn right and walk back towards check-in. Security is between arrivals and check-in. Exit the building and walk up the hill to Icarus for a coffee or snack or indeed a swim between flights. No lounge. UK flights now seem to be leaving from gates 1 & 2 which requires re-clearance of passport control after security. Only a vending machine and bare bones duty free shop.

EGC:
Back to back: Impractical. Bergerac has its own check-in system and is currently not on App/OLCI, so boarding passes must be obtained in person, no later than 45 minutes before departure

EXT:
Back to back: Not possible. Airport check-in only (check-in can't be done elsewhere due to FLY not being implemented). No airside transfer either.

FCO:
Back to back: Reasonable (return shuttle to main terminal); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable (Possibly excellent as of Jul 22 - see post #1092)

FDH:
Back to back: Impractical due to delays during ski season - see here.

FLR:
Back to back: Poor due to use of bus transfers and airport layout; Transfer: Poor (no transfer track}; Landside: Reasonable

FNC:
Back to back: Reasonable due to small airport. You do need to go landside and return to airside. Bus from aircraft, passports, security, passports, walk to aircraft. Note: high risk of weather related diversions.

FRA:
Back to back: Reasonable to Poor; Transfer: Poor (particularly if coming off Schengen); Landside: Reasonable

FSC:
Back to back: Uncertain - if boarding passes can be issued in advance then it will be an easy landside transfer in a tiny airport. If boarding passes can only be collected in FSC then it's impossible.

FUE:
Back to back: Reasonable if out of the peak season, airbridges used. Have to go via passports landside and security, behind check in. Try Canaries+Families security if desperate.

GCI:
Back to back: Infeasible. There is no online or App check in, check-in can't be done in LCY or elsewhere due to FLY not implemented in Guernsey. No airside transfer either.

GIB:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Must go landside, bearing right and back up through security. Turnaround can be long. Leave the aircraft early so as to beat the queue at passport arrivals.

GLA:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals decant into departure hall normally.

GNB:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good: Walk to/from aircraft. Must go landside, outside and right back into departures. Long turnaround times make this feasible though Saturdays busy.

GOA:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable

GOT:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Excellent. Borderline foolproof. Arrivals decant into departure hall.

GVA:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good (but can be poor during ski season). Turn left in arrival lane to go back up to departures area.

HAJ:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if non-Schengen, Good if Schengen; Landside: Good. Arrivals decant into departure gate. See posts 1670 and 1671 below.

HAM:
Back to back: Very Good to Excellent - transfer security check (not busy, before immigration) then immediately back into the departures area; Transfer: Excellent if non-Schengen, Good if Schengen; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals and departures are now separated, and very occasionally bus to baggage hall.

HEL:
Back to back: Good: Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. Incoming passengers can reverse direction just before Schengen passports. If a bus from gate, you will need to rush.

HER:
Back to back: Infeasible. There is no online or App check in, it's a bus transfer and arrivals / departures are in separate buildings.

INN:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. You have to go landside, and there is a bus transfer to/from the aircraft, but the airport is very small and highly efficient.

INV:
Back to back: Good to Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. You have to go landside and through security. See here for more info.

IOM:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good (no flight connections but small airport)

IST:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Poor ( Would lose 15-20 minutes if lanside option is preferred )

JER:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Good; Landside: Good. Arrivals decant into departure hall, sometimes you need to double back to the BA lounge.

JMK:
Back to back: Nearly impossible due to clunky arrival processing and use of buses.

JTR:
Back to back: Impossible: bus transfer, slow passports.

KEF:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if non Schengen, Good otherwise; Landside: Good. BA flights tip arriving passengers into the departure gate. Foolproof. NB LCY flights pax use a bus from a remote stand, still easy as dropped off less than 100M from the departure gate.

KLX:
Back to back: Moderately risky due to boarding passes only being issued at check-in. No buses used normally, walk off plane straight into very small building.

KRK:
Back to back: Nearly impossible due to clunky arrival processing and use of buses.

LBA:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Have to go landside for any connection or b2b but small airport, see here for further details

LCA:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. There is a "Connecting Flights" channel on the left of the arrivals corridor, half way along, well before passports.

LEI:
Back to back: Moderate to risky: you have to go via landside, and you need the return boarding pass before travel. But it's a small and efficient airport. No buses are used, it's similar to LCY in operation.

LHR T3:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. Follow connecting flights route, which can be as quick as 11 mins from disembark to through security. No conformance unlike T5. see here.

LIG:
Back to back: Good to Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. See this post for more information

LIS:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. There is a security check to the right, immediately before and avoiding the passport desks. Risk of bus gates, but still OK.

LIN:
Back to back: Not a good place due to bus transfer and needing to go fully landside; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable to Poor (bus gates)

LPA:
Back to back: Possibly OK if off peak. Some flights are bus gates, but it's a relatively small and efficient airport. OLCI and App check in both work.

LUX:
Back to back: Very Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Landside route is described here: Airside transfer door described here.

MAD T4:
Back to back: Very good; Transfer: Good to Reasonable depending on arriving terminal. Landside: Reasonable See this post for full details.

MAH:
Back to back: Good to excellent, see post number 563.

MAN:
Back to back: Reasonable to Poor; Transfer: Reasonable to Poor: Landside: Reasonable to Poor

MCT:
Back to back: Excellent - direct transfer route

MJV:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good provided you avoid a peak time More information here. (Murcia San Javier airport closed in Jan 2019 and was replaced by RMU)

MLA:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. This this post and linked blog for details.

MRS:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. There is a transfer and security point just before going down to passports. Use the phone on the post to ask for it to be opened it for you; however, there is no guarantee that it will and you may have to exit to landside and re-enter through departures security.

MUC:
Back to back: Very good; Transfer: Good but note 2 terminals; Landside: Good. Transfer point after passport, details in this post

MXP:
Back to back: Good (bit of walk to Transfer facility); Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Thread links here.

NCE:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Poor; Landside: Good. There is a direct transfer route by turning into the door way on the right before the slope up to passports

NCL:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent if domestic, otherwise Good; Landside: Good. Arrivals decant into departure hall.

NQY:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good (no flight connections but small airport). See post 475 for more information.

NTE:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. see this post.

NUE:
Back to back: Impractical unfortunately due to no OLCI, all check in done at the airport

OLB:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Excellent. Arriving into Olbia is via jetty to the departure gate, no passports or security. Note no OLCI via the App, more info here.

ORK:
Back to back: Good, do need to clear passports and security but very small and efficient airport.

ORY:
Back to back: Not recommended due to fast turnarounds on LCY services. You have to go fully landside and back in again, via 2 passport checks and a security check.

OPO:
Back to back: Excellent (Look for grey escalator going up); Transfer: Good (reasonable if Schengen); Landside: Reasonable

OTP:
Back to back: Good as at April 2019. Poor as of 29 Dec 18; Transfer: Excellent (See post #1919); Landside: Good to Reasonable. Arrival experience and speed of transit depends on arrival gate. On some arrivals, there is a Connection facility on the right at Passport Control after leaving aircraft although sometimes it is up some stairs and on the left. If this is the case, you need to go to the top of the stairs to see a passport official / go to passport desk (to explain you have arrived from London and are going straight back to London - likely resulting in a confused look on the officer's face) before returning half way down the stairs to go through security.

OSL:
Back to back: Good on the whole; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. (See experiences in this post, this post, this post and this post.)

OVD:
Back to back: Not really suitable. This is really an Iberia Express route but leaves T5 under BA code. The aircraft is based in OVD not LHR. Small efficient airport though.

PFO:
Back to back: Good on the whole, but you do need to go landside. However it is a small airport. May not be so good on a busy Saturday during school holidays. Note bus transfers however.

PMO:
Airport is currently being rebuilt. Once completed potentially a good option due to airbridge. Departure security is two floors above arrivals (use lift)

PMI:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Excellent. Borderline foolproof - you are landed direct into boarding area

PRG:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Ungraded; Landside: Ungraded. For back-to-back the LHR-PRG arrival dumps you right into the main corridor of that pier; walk 100 ft. to security check for the BA boarding lounge and you'll be good to go.

PRN:
Back to back: Possible but not recommended, see post 557.

PSA:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable (not the best location since there are a lot of LCC and you have to reclear security from landside). (August 2018 review and comment)

PUY:
Back to back: Unrealistic, due to the bus transfer process followed by passport control.

RAK:
Back to back: Terrible; Transfer: Ungraded; Landside: Ungraded. See post #1353 below

RHO:
Back to back: Infeasible - no OLCI or App check in, bus transfers from gates. Also airport very busy on Saturday PM and Sunday AM.

RTM:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Good (Reasonable during morning/evening peaks)

SEZ:
Back to back: Excellent. Use the Transit desk at the right side of the immigration hall, opposite end to passport control, see this post.

SKG:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. Note bus transfers on apron.

SOF:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Reasonable. Arrivals decant into departure area.

SPU:
Back to back: Reasonable but there is a bus transfer and then landside; Transfer: Reasonable but transfer routes seems to be from Star Alliance; Landside: Reasonable

STR:
Back to back: Reasonable (stairs from baggage hall back to security. Can't avoid security/passports); Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. Report here.

SVG:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Excellent; Landside: Excellent. Borderline foolproof, though only restricted number of flights

SVQ:
Back to back: Reasonable but need to exit landside and go up through departures, security. and passports is by the gate. Compact airport, fast security even if queuing.

SZG:
Back to back: Reasonable; Transfer: Reasonable; Landside: Reasonable. No transfer channel and note bus transfers, but small airport.

TFS:
Back to back: Reasonable but in all cases involves going landside. May be tricky to reclear security in peak holiday season.

TIA:
Back to back: Probably impractical. There is a bus transfer process and passport checks/stamps takes a while (Albania isn't in the EU).

TLL:
Back to back: Very good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. see this post.

TLV:
Back to back: At your own risk. There is a transfer route with security on the way to passport control just after the rotunda.

TNG:
Back to back: No transfer or B2B route. Have to pass immigration, customs and security again. Airport is tiny (think 10 flights a day) and B2B is perfectly doable provided no problems at immigration.

TRN:
Back to back: Reasonable to Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. No short cuts to avoid going landside via passports x2 and security, apart from Fast Track security, but a small and efficient airport.

TXL:
Back to back: Good (security takes place in limited area by arriving gate); Transfer: Good; Landside: Good. Security is at gates, if using A gates. NB: Currently, this usually includes LCY flights, which now mostly use A gates like LHR flights. TXL Closed in November 2020, replaced by BER.

UIP:
Back to back: Good - very small airport, tarmac walk.

VCE:
Back to back: Very good; Transfer: Good at off-peak times; Landside: Reasonable. See this post for details

VIE:
Back to back: Excellent (BEWARE: see here); Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable

VLC:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. There's no transfer route so you have to go via landside. Departures is straight up from the arrival point. Disagree with the previous two sentences. For me, a direct turnaround from gates 12-14 was possible without going landside. Took less than a minute.

VNO:
Back to back: Excellent; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. Arriving passengers enter departing passenger area. [BA have codeshare and also has TP Run options via AY]

VRN:
Back to back: Good; Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable. There's no transfer route so you have to go landside but it's a very small airport and there is Fast Track.

WAW:
Back to back: Good (small connection facility on left after airbridge); Transfer: Good; Landside: Reasonable

ZAG:
Back to back: Good (must re-clear security--this is effectively an international transfer); Transfer: Good (must re-clear security [there are separate transfers for international to international near east end of a/p and international to domestic with passport control near west end of a/p] but airport is small); Landside: Reasonable (must clear passport control, go downstairs through baggage claim to exit, outside and upstairs to check-in, upstairs again to the top floor for security and passport control and then back downstairs to the gate level.

ZRH:
Back to back: Generally good but see this post and the replies for more information.

ZTH:
Back to back: Infeasible due to buses and no online check-in possibilities. Somewhat unfortunate given the small airport. No transfer route, you must enter Schengen and go to landside.




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Old Jun 23, 22, 10:29 am
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Originally Posted by lowdownlo View Post
I will be doing a B2B at DUB tomorrow. I have read that the airport can get very busy at times. Will I be able to use their Fligt Connections, or do I need to clear customs and then get back in for the return to LHR? I only have about 50mins so am getting worried now. Many thanks
I dont know if you can use flight connections. I hope you dont need to clear customs and re-enter. Im currently standing in the fast track security queue at DUB T1 (17:30 on a Thursday) and its awful. Allow minimum 45mins for security if youre fast track. Looks even worse in the regular queue
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Old Jun 25, 22, 5:41 am
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Originally Posted by lowdownlo View Post
I will be doing a B2B at DUB tomorrow. I have read that the airport can get very busy at times. Will I be able to use their Fligt Connections, or do I need to clear customs and then get back in for the return to LHR? I only have about 50mins so am getting worried now. Many thanks
Curious to know how you got on at DUB?

Yesterday (24-Jun) we arrived into Dublin at 0930 and glad we did, had to check in once it opened at 1300 for the doc checks etc as couldn't do it online....it was the US address in one of the PNRs that was an issue....but having been in the Priority queue when the desk opened it took an hour to get checked in and then around 45 mins in the Fast Track security queue. Managed one can of Guinness in the lounge before boarding.

Only asking as we end up back at DUB on Monday with a B2B booked. After yesterday's experience I'm not sure it's worth the stress for 40+10TPs! But if the Flight Connections route works, we'd be delighted to hear!
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Old Jun 25, 22, 6:49 am
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BA1466 (LHR-INV) and BA1467 (INV-LHR)
There is about 10 hours gap between flights (overnight).
Will be staying at Marriott Courtyard and have luggage.

Are there any risk of making such a booking?
According to flightradar24 it is normally same aircraft which lands at 9PM, takes-off as next flight at 7 AM following morning.
I believe the airport itself is closed during the night.
Any pointers for INV much appreciated, considering I then have CE / CW flight following morning and do not want to miss it.

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Old Jun 25, 22, 8:37 am
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INV really is a tiny airport, those timings will be fine.

As you come out of the airport turn left and keep on walking, there's a gap in the fence to get into the car park of the Marriott.

On my last visit to INV there was a Club check in desk available. The lounge is small, and whilst perfectly pleasant, it's not really anything special, so if you have time for breakfast at the hotel that will be better.
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Old Jun 27, 22, 6:49 am
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Originally Posted by Spongthrush View Post
Curious to know how you got on at DUB?

Yesterday (24-Jun) we arrived into Dublin at 0930 and glad we did, had to check in once it opened at 1300 for the doc checks etc as couldn't do it online....it was the US address in one of the PNRs that was an issue....but having been in the Priority queue when the desk opened it took an hour to get checked in and then around 45 mins in the Fast Track security queue. Managed one can of Guinness in the lounge before boarding.

Only asking as we end up back at DUB on Monday with a B2B booked. After yesterday's experience I'm not sure it's worth the stress for 40+10TPs! But if the Flight Connections route works, we'd be delighted to hear!
Sorry for the late reply.

I ended up abandoning my original outbound B2B and booked the 06:40 flight with Aer Lingus to DUB. That flight subsequently got cancelled and I had to re-book to another earlyish Aer Lingus flight still with a ~3 hours margin. DUB custom was not too bad but, as others have mentioned, security is awful even for Fast Track.

All in all I made it to my ex-EU outbound from DUB but it was full of stress and I won't be using DUB as a starting point any time soon. I did not attempt the Flight Connections as KARFA pointed out that this is pretty useless in DUB.

I still have my final sector to DUB to complete the trip and it is booked as another B2B, I am very tempted to give it a miss now

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Old Jul 4, 22, 11:03 am
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I'm due to do a LGW/AMS B2B tomorrow, with an onward connection (LHR-YVR) on Tuesday. I've created a Verifly record for the LHR-YVR segment with my Covid cert and ArriveCan reference number and this was green-ticked this morning, so as far as Verifly is concerned, I'm good to go. However, when I try to check in for the AMS-LGW segment, I get the dreaded "Covid documents required. Add documents or check your verification with VeriFLY" message.

I understand from the Verifly thread that this could potentially resolve itself in a few hours/overnight, so I'm hoping that will be the case. If it doesn't, and for the sake of my sanity (and potentially a better night's sleep tonight!), what other options do I have to get my return boarding pass? I presume I can't get it at the gate when I land in AMS, and I know check-in staff at LGW probably won't/can't issue an outstation BP there, but would they be able to verify my documents and unlock the booking so I can generate a BP for the return in the app before boarding the outbound?
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Yes, there are reports of agents clearing down the ADOC flag. The problem I foresee though is that LGW has no Canada services so they may need some encouragement.
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Thanks - that's a concern! If I could get to LHR tomorrow before heading to LGW, would that be a safer option for clearing the flag, or would they not be able to do anything with it as it's a Gatwick booking?
ETA: LHR visit would be more than 24 hours before the YVR flight, would that hinder things happening there...?
Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave View Post
If you were within twilight check in the evening before travel then I can't see a problem. It's the sort of area where we get far more questions than data points unfortunately.
Originally Posted by JustTheOne View Post
​​​​​​Alas not, YVR flight is at 17:15 on Tuesday and if I were to go to LHR, it would be at about 11:00 on Monday before heading to LGW for the early evening flight to AMS - so well outside the twilight check in window.
If this doesn't resolve overnight, I think I will go to LHR in the morning and see if there's anything they can do to clear the flag before heading to LGW and trying there if unsuccessful at T5. And will of course provide any data points I can along the way.
Thanks for your input as always, C-W-S!
Closing the circle on this: as I was in Heathrow already, I popped into the First Wing earlier in the day to see if they could resolve the issue - I didn't want to head straight to LGW only to discover that they couldn't fix it and I'd missed my window to resolve things by bypassing LHR. The LHR check-in agent wasn't able to clear down the ADOC flag for YVR leg, but he was able to issue the AMS-LGW boarding pass once the concept of a B2B had been explained to him and after some time on the phone to ARC (I think?). It still took about 20 minutes the next day to complete check in at LHR for the YVR leg, and the agent ultimately had to phone Canada for approval as everything looked ok but still couldn't be processed. Phew - a slightly stressful start to the B2B though, and not one I'd want to repeat in a hurry!
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Old Jul 6, 22, 8:17 am
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B2B at JER (from LHR) this morning without a hitch. Both flights early. Bus on arrival at LHR.
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Old Jul 6, 22, 4:01 pm
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Has anyone got a recent experience of BUD? I havent been there for a few years and just cant picture how it all works!
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Old Jul 6, 22, 4:53 pm
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Originally Posted by mgiarc View Post
B2B at JER (from LHR) this morning without a hitch. Both flights early. Bus on arrival at LHR.
That's a trip I'm considering, though I was going to take the flight after the inbound return to LHR. Adding a 2 hour buffer seems prudent. I was considering LGW-JER-LHR since there seem to be fewer departing issues at LGW. On these tickets, is HBO ok or should one pay for economy-flex tcket?
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Old Jul 6, 22, 5:18 pm
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Originally Posted by JustTheOne View Post
Closing the circle on this: as I was in Heathrow already, I popped into the First Wing earlier in the day to see if they could resolve the issue - I didn't want to head straight to LGW only to discover that they couldn't fix it and I'd missed my window to resolve things by bypassing LHR. The LHR check-in agent wasn't able to clear down the ADOC flag for YVR leg, but he was able to issue the AMS-LGW boarding pass once the concept of a B2B had been explained to him and after some time on the phone to ARC (I think?). It still took about 20 minutes the next day to complete check in at LHR for the YVR leg, and the agent ultimately had to phone Canada for approval as everything looked ok but still couldn't be processed. Phew - a slightly stressful start to the B2B though, and not one I'd want to repeat in a hurry!
I had issues at Oslo on Sunday heading to YYZ, fly couldn't see my ETA, I wonder if it's a similar issue?
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Old Jul 13, 22, 5:34 am
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What to do if your positioning flight is cancelled.

I have an itinerary DUB-LHR-ORD coming up. The DUB-LHR sector starts at 07:30 so there is no chance of doing a B2B. The best positioning flight would be the 21:05 LHR-DUB the night before which is the last flight of the day on that route. With the random cancellations going on I am concerned that if my positioning flight is cancelled the whole itinerary goes up the swanny. What are the chances that BA would take pity on me and let me step into my itinerary at LHR the next day?
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Old Jul 13, 22, 5:55 am
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Originally Posted by ginger50 View Post
I have an itinerary DUB-LHR-ORD coming up. The DUB-LHR sector starts at 07:30 so there is no chance of doing a B2B. The best positioning flight would be the 21:05 LHR-DUB the night before which is the last flight of the day on that route. With the random cancellations going on I am concerned that if my positioning flight is cancelled the whole itinerary goes up the swanny. What are the chances that BA would take pity on me and let me step into my itinerary at LHR the next day?
Book a Ryanair flight from LGW/STN/LTN instead. It's much less likely to be cancelled. FR have been doing very well so far for not cancelling flights.
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Old Jul 20, 22, 3:55 am
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Just a post-covid datapoint, did a successful LCY-AMS-LCY back to back

Was slightly nervous with all the AMS horror stories but was able to just wait in the gate area as normal and it was all very easy*

*apart from the fact I couldnt Online Check in for the outbound from City and it was heaving when I got there with people trying to check in bags, but ticket desk checked me in
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Old Jul 24, 22, 5:44 am
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Another post-Covid data point, I successfully did a BUD (Budapest) back-to-back today.

At immigration, walked towards transfers on the right of the hall and one of the workers asked me what I was doing, was surprised (lol), then walked me to transit security and called security staff.

From walking off the plane in row 1, thorough security, toilet stop and back to gate in about 15 minutes. Not even boarding the return yet. Excellent!
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