'A Very British Airline' : BA Documentary, airs BBC2 from Mon 2 June
Jun 6, 2014, 10:58 am
#421
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Does she also post on flyertalk for you?
Jun 6, 2014, 11:14 am
#422
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A snapshot thread too.
I couldn't give a stuff if a cabin crew member had ladders in her (or his) tights, I'm far more concerned with
Captains leaving the engine bonnet open
Captains driving in to buildings
Cabin crew laughing while serving blind people
being addressed as "you guys"
I couldn't give a stuff if a cabin crew member had ladders in her (or his) tights, I'm far more concerned with
Captains leaving the engine bonnet open
Captains driving in to buildings
Cabin crew laughing while serving blind people
being addressed as "you guys"
Jun 6, 2014, 12:45 pm
#426
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Short answer: no, with clarifications
Long answer: I do think that the average young lady would be more likely to find a spell as cabin crew a relatively better option for post-school experience than the average young gentleman.
My reasoning is that a cabin crew job involves a huge amount of multitasking and tremendous interpersonal skills, which ladies tend to be better at than gentlemen (who in their turn might prefer a more linear option).
My experience is that in terms of service satisfaction in a transport environment (which includes trains as well as planes) good lady > good gentleman > bad gentleman > bad lady.
I note that I have experienced great service from gentlemen cabin crew. But the best of the gentlemen have not been as good as the best of the ladies. I acknowledge that a sample of one is not necessarily significant.
Accordingly in the interests of encouraging people to join a field that they can excel in I would be more likely to recommend cabin crew to a lady than a gentleman. This does not mean that I would never recommend that a gentleman train to serve in the cabin or always recommend that a lady enter the corps of crew.
I realise that this type of view is at variance with what many people consider socially acceptable. And to those people I apologise for any offence caused. I also admit that as a man I am probably more likely to be swayed by a smiling lady than a smiling gentleman and my view may be prejudiced as a result. But this does not change the fact that I hold these views and have based them on experience.
Long answer: I do think that the average young lady would be more likely to find a spell as cabin crew a relatively better option for post-school experience than the average young gentleman.
My reasoning is that a cabin crew job involves a huge amount of multitasking and tremendous interpersonal skills, which ladies tend to be better at than gentlemen (who in their turn might prefer a more linear option).
My experience is that in terms of service satisfaction in a transport environment (which includes trains as well as planes) good lady > good gentleman > bad gentleman > bad lady.
I note that I have experienced great service from gentlemen cabin crew. But the best of the gentlemen have not been as good as the best of the ladies. I acknowledge that a sample of one is not necessarily significant.
Accordingly in the interests of encouraging people to join a field that they can excel in I would be more likely to recommend cabin crew to a lady than a gentleman. This does not mean that I would never recommend that a gentleman train to serve in the cabin or always recommend that a lady enter the corps of crew.
I realise that this type of view is at variance with what many people consider socially acceptable. And to those people I apologise for any offence caused. I also admit that as a man I am probably more likely to be swayed by a smiling lady than a smiling gentleman and my view may be prejudiced as a result. But this does not change the fact that I hold these views and have based them on experience.
Jun 6, 2014, 1:17 pm
#427
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If the staff serving the purportedly "First Class" coaches on my East Coast service could be bothered to serve me more than one drink the last 90 minutes, I probably would also have done the same.
Jun 6, 2014, 1:24 pm
#428
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Think yourself lucky, my last debacle with TPE resulted with no, as advertised, at seat catering in First due to my booked seat being in the wrong part of the train. Not bad for a 200 ticket eh?
Jun 6, 2014, 1:37 pm
#429
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Short answer: no, with clarifications
Long answer: I do think that the average young lady would be more likely to find a spell as cabin crew a relatively better option for post-school experience than the average young gentleman.
My reasoning is that a cabin crew job involves a huge amount of multitasking and tremendous interpersonal skills, which ladies tend to be better at than gentlemen (who in their turn might prefer a more linear option).
My experience is that in terms of service satisfaction in a transport environment (which includes trains as well as planes) good lady > good gentleman > bad gentleman > bad lady.
I note that I have experienced great service from gentlemen cabin crew. But the best of the gentlemen have not been as good as the best of the ladies. I acknowledge that a sample of one is not necessarily significant.
Accordingly in the interests of encouraging people to join a field that they can excel in I would be more likely to recommend cabin crew to a lady than a gentleman. This does not mean that I would never recommend that a gentleman train to serve in the cabin or always recommend that a lady enter the corps of crew.
I realise that this type of view is at variance with what many people consider socially acceptable. And to those people I apologise for any offence caused. I also admit that as a man I am probably more likely to be swayed by a smiling lady than a smiling gentleman and my view may be prejudiced as a result. But this does not change the fact that I hold these views and have based them on experience.
Long answer: I do think that the average young lady would be more likely to find a spell as cabin crew a relatively better option for post-school experience than the average young gentleman.
My reasoning is that a cabin crew job involves a huge amount of multitasking and tremendous interpersonal skills, which ladies tend to be better at than gentlemen (who in their turn might prefer a more linear option).
My experience is that in terms of service satisfaction in a transport environment (which includes trains as well as planes) good lady > good gentleman > bad gentleman > bad lady.
I note that I have experienced great service from gentlemen cabin crew. But the best of the gentlemen have not been as good as the best of the ladies. I acknowledge that a sample of one is not necessarily significant.
Accordingly in the interests of encouraging people to join a field that they can excel in I would be more likely to recommend cabin crew to a lady than a gentleman. This does not mean that I would never recommend that a gentleman train to serve in the cabin or always recommend that a lady enter the corps of crew.
I realise that this type of view is at variance with what many people consider socially acceptable. And to those people I apologise for any offence caused. I also admit that as a man I am probably more likely to be swayed by a smiling lady than a smiling gentleman and my view may be prejudiced as a result. But this does not change the fact that I hold these views and have based them on experience.
Jun 6, 2014, 2:19 pm
#430
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No, but it has to be tied back and must not hang below the bottom edge of your shirt collar.
Because young girls often have long hair, it means there are lots of buns on M/F because it is the easiest style to adopt when you have long hair.
Because young girls often have long hair, it means there are lots of buns on M/F because it is the easiest style to adopt when you have long hair.
Jun 6, 2014, 2:27 pm
#431
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This thread certainly has bought out a few discriminatory opinions from people who previously seemed to be completely normal, tolerant people!
Jun 6, 2014, 2:43 pm
#432
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OK. I am now ready for Episode 2 to begin. Since the taste we have been given is of the JFK CCR, we can look forward to a week of analysis of the Umericans talking with British accents....
Jun 6, 2014, 3:01 pm
#433
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As I didn't say I loathe typing on here, I hardly see how that is relevant. My comment was not about how much you were physically typing, it was about how long you were typing in your horribly exaggerated "chavvy yoof" accent - something you claim to despise.
This thread certainly has bought out a few discriminatory opinions from people who previously seemed to be completely normal, tolerant people!
This thread certainly has bought out a few discriminatory opinions from people who previously seemed to be completely normal, tolerant people!
Jun 6, 2014, 3:02 pm
#434
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I agree with most of the points already made here.
As mentioned, so many BA staff looked terrible in make-up. Perhaps if BA want a 'lipstick-and-blusher-at-a-minimum rule' then they should hold a few sessions on proper application, just like they do with uniforms? it'd reduce the clown-face incidences
If I was in charge of deportment in BA, I'd ban fake eylelashes. Aside from the OTT look, aren't they a food hygiene risk?
shab-lay, wasnt' it? 
As mentioned, so many BA staff looked terrible in make-up. Perhaps if BA want a 'lipstick-and-blusher-at-a-minimum rule' then they should hold a few sessions on proper application, just like they do with uniforms? it'd reduce the clown-face incidences
If I was in charge of deportment in BA, I'd ban fake eylelashes. Aside from the OTT look, aren't they a food hygiene risk?
Jun 6, 2014, 3:25 pm
#435
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If I remember it correctly she was doing some of these checks immediately before the inaugural flight but AFTER the BA staff training exercises so a bit late to be identifying faults like scratches etc as they could have been caused by BA staff rather than a defect on the delivered plane.