'A Very British Airline' : BA Documentary, airs BBC2 from Mon 2 June
Jun 5, 2014, 3:19 pm
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I would imagine that I have a regional accent, certainly my daughters do, in fact they have an Essex accent, although they weren't born in Essex, it's pretty much where they've all grown up. That said, they don't use all those awful 'Esex-isms' so prevalent now but they do occasionally drop their 'aitches'..
Jun 5, 2014, 3:34 pm
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The chef
In fact it was the chef in the programme that I disliked the most! He came across as arrogant and self opinionated - I would love to have seen his face when the feedback about the food started to come in from the First pax! It may be worth him reading the reviews on the food and being a little less worried about sauces and a bit more worried about taste!
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Jun 5, 2014, 3:43 pm
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The "chef" is Mark Tazzioli (I don't believe he has any previous experience as a chef at Michelin or 5 star hotel level) and he is making the same mistakes that Heston Blumenthal corrected him on years ago the Channel 4 documentary - "Heston's Mission Impossible - British Airways". He was shown how he could still use the old ovens and not have to invest in new ones and also test food in the air and not on the ground.
http://highlife.ba.com/News-And-Blog...n-Manager.html
http://www.catererandhotelkeeper.co....k-tazzioli.htm
Jun 5, 2014, 4:39 pm
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Not at all. I have already said I have no problem with the accent of the girl (or any accent for that matter). But I do think it lazy and sloppy for anyone (regardless of background or accent) to drop into this awful chavvy yoof speak that is so prevalent nowadays.
So to be clear, if it was someone with a frightfully posh accent who also used the word "like" inappropriately, used an "f" rather than a "th" etc, I would think the same. Nothing to do with class, snobbery or anything pretentious....regardless of background it just grates I'm afraid.
So to be clear, if it was someone with a frightfully posh accent who also used the word "like" inappropriately, used an "f" rather than a "th" etc, I would think the same. Nothing to do with class, snobbery or anything pretentious....regardless of background it just grates I'm afraid.
You aren't being clear at all - you randomly switch between talking about her specifically and "yoof" in general with no distinction over who or what you're whinging about. If you think her manner of speech does come under "chavvy yoof" then I reiterate my previous thoughts on your manner. Though I'm not convinced you even remember how she speaks as every description you've given of it so far has been wildly inaccurate.
Jun 5, 2014, 5:01 pm
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Jun 6, 2014, 12:13 am
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Correct, we live reasonably close to East London, City Airport is approximately half an hours drive away. For myself, I was born in Cambridgeshire but have lived where we live for 21 years so I know my accent has altered over the years to that of a more Essex one.
Jun 6, 2014, 2:04 am
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How she speaks IS her accent... Pronunciation is a pretty important aspect of accent - most UK regions use the same words, it's how we say them that seperates the accents. Not that her way of speaking is "chavvy yoof speak".
You aren't being clear at all - you randomly switch between talking about her specifically and "yoof" in general with no distinction over who or what you're whinging about. If you think her manner of speech does come under "chavvy yoof" then I reiterate my previous thoughts on your manner. Though I'm not convinced you even remember how she speaks as every description you've given of it so far has been wildly inaccurate.
You aren't being clear at all - you randomly switch between talking about her specifically and "yoof" in general with no distinction over who or what you're whinging about. If you think her manner of speech does come under "chavvy yoof" then I reiterate my previous thoughts on your manner. Though I'm not convinced you even remember how she speaks as every description you've given of it so far has been wildly inaccurate.
Jun 6, 2014, 3:07 am
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Using the word 'like' in every sentence has come from certain members of our American cousins. It is no reflection on education or class. You can go to the pubs of SW London and hear ex public school boys/girls doing exactly the same, and many will have high powered jobs in banking/advertising etc.
If it upsets you, I suggest you lobby the US reality shows that made this lazy speech mainstream.
If it upsets you, I suggest you lobby the US reality shows that made this lazy speech mainstream.
(I went to school in Crowthorne so what do I know...?)
Jun 6, 2014, 3:21 am
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What you have is an east London accent, not an Essex one. I was born in Chelmsford, and I do not have an accent like you or your daughters. My parents were both born in Chelmsford and have lived there all there lives and they have what I would call a proper Essex accent which is quite similar to a Suffolk accent. Nothing like what you call an "Essex accent".
Jun 6, 2014, 3:36 am
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The three that were highlighted through the edit were Jodi, the "ebullient" Patrick who got sh!tcanned and the girl we saw being very impressive with her fire dill in the lavs. We have no idea about the rest
My money is on the "narrative" that Jodi is a girl from the wrong side of the tracks, someone who skirts extremely funking close to a failing number of "snapshots" and yet triumphs in the end.
My money is on the "narrative" that Jodi is a girl from the wrong side of the tracks, someone who skirts extremely funking close to a failing number of "snapshots" and yet triumphs in the end.
Jun 6, 2014, 4:00 am
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I don't know if your "comedy" is trying to distract me from your horribly judgemental views, but if so it's not working!
Jun 6, 2014, 4:09 am
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1x Menu Development Manager
3x Menu Development Chef.
The Menu Development Manager is most certainly a chef and all the Menu Development Chef's call him 'Chef'.
I am sure that it is the same at BA.
Jun 6, 2014, 4:40 am
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I think that time spent as cabin crew is still an excellent investment for a young lady whatever her background for the following reasons:
i) see the world, including "difficult" countries and exposure to "strange" cultures
ii) university of life - after a few years those girls are really strong mentally
iii) learn how to deal with difficult people, both passengers and managers
iv) opportunity to marry an airline executive or captain.
If my daughter then wanted to be a lawyer, doctor or some such then she could apply to university and be in a strong position for jobs afterwards due to her life skills gained as crew. If she wanted to be an airline executive then opportunities would be open to her at the airline.
