Jan 31, 2024, 5:20 pm
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In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,Mexico City*, Sao Paulo and Dubai.
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
AF « La Première » Outlook
Dec 7, 2020, 6:50 pm
#241
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Dec 7, 2020, 10:18 pm
#242
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There are far more and bigger French colonies than Lebanon.
Because it was profitable. This is the only determining factor. The same reason Caracas and Tehran had Concorde service
Because it was profitable. This is the only determining factor. The same reason Caracas and Tehran had Concorde service
Dec 7, 2020, 11:33 pm
#243
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Location: Denver • DEN-APA
Programs: AF Platinum, EK Gold, AA EXP, UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 21,602
Any recent news on the reopening of the full CDG LP Lounge? Looking at a possible lengthy February connection but not if it’s still the current J mezzanine setup.
Dec 7, 2020, 11:50 pm
#244
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
Posts: 21,928
Wealthy Lebanese connecting in CDG mainly to/from US/Africa.
Dec 8, 2020, 1:48 am
#245
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Posts: 7,836
The wealthy go back and forth to Paris or through Paris, and for many there it's a choice between private jet and Air France in P. Also, lots of cargo on that route.
The thing that may have changed this now is the political and economic crisis that puts the country on trajectory to a failed state. Many people are leaving the country, many people have fallen into poverty, can't get their money out of the bank. That has also reduced the demand for cargo, there simply is less foie gras, champagne, macarons and designer clothing to transport there. Add COvid to that and you have a perfect storm. Not sure P will come back ever.
Dec 8, 2020, 10:12 am
#247
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Location: NYC -- UA 1K; SPG Platinum; HH Diamond.
Posts: 2,922
I don't think that there's news on that front but I think it's dicey for February. Unfortunately, there aren't much better options out there (FCL A closed and unlikely/will not be open in Feb).
Dec 8, 2020, 1:43 pm
#248
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Dec 8, 2020, 6:11 pm
#249
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Location: Paris and around the WW
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Posts: 1,040
Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 pm
#250
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Dec 8, 2020, 6:57 pm
#251
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Posts: 1,040
Jan 8, 2021, 8:12 am
#252
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 453
I flew P yesterday from CDG to JFK, after paying for an upgrade and a rather hectic process that I described here .
I didn't get much of the ground services since I arrived to the K lounge as a J passenger, but once the upgrade cleared I was walked to the mezzanine where there was only one other passenger. I had just enough time for the coquillettes, some Krug, and a baba au rhum
. The staff was lovely as ever despite the circumstances.
I did ask about the lounge renovation, and I was told that everything is done at this point and they are finalizing the last decoration details (like putting the furniture etc). One of the agents told me that the changes were not drastic, so... we will see. I also asked about the reopening date: one agent told me February, and another told me that it will reopen whenever flight loads pick up again but I'm not convinced any of them knew.
As for the rest of the experience, it was more or less the same as usual. Service was stellar, maybe slightly invasive during the flight (like commenting on the movies I'm watching), and I had the cabin to myself since they actually had to call a crew just for me because of my last minute upgrade. Food was good although not as good as usual (the beef was tough and tasteless for instance). No regrets despite the fairly high price tag!
I didn't get much of the ground services since I arrived to the K lounge as a J passenger, but once the upgrade cleared I was walked to the mezzanine where there was only one other passenger. I had just enough time for the coquillettes, some Krug, and a baba au rhum
. The staff was lovely as ever despite the circumstances.I did ask about the lounge renovation, and I was told that everything is done at this point and they are finalizing the last decoration details (like putting the furniture etc). One of the agents told me that the changes were not drastic, so... we will see. I also asked about the reopening date: one agent told me February, and another told me that it will reopen whenever flight loads pick up again but I'm not convinced any of them knew.
As for the rest of the experience, it was more or less the same as usual. Service was stellar, maybe slightly invasive during the flight (like commenting on the movies I'm watching), and I had the cabin to myself since they actually had to call a crew just for me because of my last minute upgrade. Food was good although not as good as usual (the beef was tough and tasteless for instance). No regrets despite the fairly high price tag!
Last edited by Klems; Jan 8, 2021 at 12:27 pm
Jan 8, 2021, 12:28 pm
#254
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Location: New York
Posts: 453
You're very welcome! Just added a picture with the menu and wine (forgot to take a picture of the pre landing snack, but it's the last picture with the little scallop/mushroom skewer).