Jan 31, 2024, 5:20 pm
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In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,Mexico City*, Sao Paulo and Dubai.
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
AF « La Première » Outlook
Mar 3, 2021, 1:40 am
#301
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Mar 3, 2021, 2:21 am
#302
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To be honest, even if I love Air France La Première product, I consider that the lounge is such an important part of the experience that I prefer to delay further reservations in P until services are back to normal (or close to).
Mar 3, 2021, 3:41 am
#303
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Aesthetically, AF is much nicer.
Mar 3, 2021, 4:00 am
#304
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Mar 3, 2021, 7:44 am
#305
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Mar 3, 2021, 7:54 am
#306
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Posts: 112
They do look very similar - I've never flown QR F (only the now outdated business on the A350). I think AF is a little more elegant - what's more with AF you get four windows and the photos of QR all show three, but that may not be an indicator of seat/suite size.
Mar 3, 2021, 7:56 am
#307
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Many airlines have somewhat-similar 1x2x1 F seats on their 77W. This forward-facing seat (no angle) has become the standard. Most of them have 2 rows of seats, which makes the cabin less claustrophobic. All offer more privacy rather than the curtain.. Some are wider. Some have much bigger TV screens, which is very useful as the screen is quite far.
AF design is elegant, but I do not see how the seat would be rate as "exceptional"
LP lounge is indeed outstanding.
My preference is for CX F. It is 1x1x1, with an angle. Very wide except at feet and my ideal level of privacy.
What will happen with F in the future is an open question.
AF design is elegant, but I do not see how the seat would be rate as "exceptional"
LP lounge is indeed outstanding.
My preference is for CX F. It is 1x1x1, with an angle. Very wide except at feet and my ideal level of privacy.
What will happen with F in the future is an open question.
Mar 3, 2021, 8:53 am
#308
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Mar 3, 2021, 1:07 pm
#309
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To those addicted as well, with some proper Google Flights tweaking, I now easily get a list of F flights with AF. In May, I found the following destinations:
Tokyo
Los Angeles
Hong Kong
Miami
Mexico City
New York
Chicago
Johannesburg
Of which Mexico City, Tokyo, Johannesburg and Hong Kong are the most affordable ones <7000 CHF / < 7500 USD return for a direct flight, return. Likely cheaper if you add a few stops before or to buy for a nice tariff in business and go for the upgrade.
Tokyo
Los Angeles
Hong Kong
Miami
Mexico City
New York
Chicago
Johannesburg
Of which Mexico City, Tokyo, Johannesburg and Hong Kong are the most affordable ones <7000 CHF / < 7500 USD return for a direct flight, return. Likely cheaper if you add a few stops before or to buy for a nice tariff in business and go for the upgrade.
Mar 3, 2021, 1:13 pm
#310
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Posts: 5,663
To those addicted as well, with some proper Google Flights tweaking, I now easily get a list of F flights with AF. In May, I found the following destinations:
Tokyo
Los Angeles
Hong Kong
Miami
Mexico City
New York
Chicago
Johannesburg
Of which Mexico City, Tokyo, Johannesburg and Hong Kong are the most affordable ones <7000 CHF / < 7500 USD return for a direct flight, return. Likely cheaper if you add a few stops before or to buy for a nice tariff in business and go for the upgrade.
Tokyo
Los Angeles
Hong Kong
Miami
Mexico City
New York
Chicago
Johannesburg
Of which Mexico City, Tokyo, Johannesburg and Hong Kong are the most affordable ones <7000 CHF / < 7500 USD return for a direct flight, return. Likely cheaper if you add a few stops before or to buy for a nice tariff in business and go for the upgrade.
Mar 3, 2021, 1:14 pm
#311
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Posts: 21,602
San Francisco
Washington
Of these, IAD is consistently the cheapest with $5K roundtrips ex-BUD.
Mar 3, 2021, 1:17 pm
#312
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Location: CH / NL
Programs: LX HON, FB Platinum for life, Sixt/Hilton Diamond
Posts: 189
Mar 3, 2021, 1:21 pm
#313
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Mar 3, 2021, 1:27 pm
#314
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I managed last year to do several BCN - CDG - MEX for 4,6 k€.
But the tickets need to be bought at least 60 days before flying with a minimum of 6 nights there
But the tickets need to be bought at least 60 days before flying with a minimum of 6 nights there
Mar 3, 2021, 7:16 pm
#315
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Posts: 716
To those addicted as well, with some proper Google Flights tweaking, I now easily get a list of F flights with AF. In May, I found the following destinations:
Tokyo
Los Angeles
Hong Kong
Miami
Mexico City
New York
Chicago
Johannesburg
Of which Mexico City, Tokyo, Johannesburg and Hong Kong are the most affordable ones <7000 CHF / < 7500 USD return for a direct flight, return. Likely cheaper if you add a few stops before or to buy for a nice tariff in business and go for the upgrade.
Tokyo
Los Angeles
Hong Kong
Miami
Mexico City
New York
Chicago
Johannesburg
Of which Mexico City, Tokyo, Johannesburg and Hong Kong are the most affordable ones <7000 CHF / < 7500 USD return for a direct flight, return. Likely cheaper if you add a few stops before or to buy for a nice tariff in business and go for the upgrade.