Jan 31, 2024, 5:20 pm
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In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,Mexico City*, Sao Paulo and Dubai.
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
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Feb 14, 2021, 1:09 pm
#271
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I have a WAW-CDG-SFO flight coming up in P with an overnight layover in Paris at the end of the month.
Mostly just curious about what I should expect on arrival at CDG given that my connection is 15 hours later (I seem to remember that last time I arrived in J at CDG from WAW it was at terminal 2G(?) with a very long bus transfer).
I will be leaving the airport and staying with family overnight, however I was able to book a complimentary Hertz Drive-U service to CDG on the morning before the SFO flight.
Mostly just curious about what I should expect on arrival at CDG given that my connection is 15 hours later (I seem to remember that last time I arrived in J at CDG from WAW it was at terminal 2G(?) with a very long bus transfer).
I will be leaving the airport and staying with family overnight, however I was able to book a complimentary Hertz Drive-U service to CDG on the morning before the SFO flight.
Feb 14, 2021, 1:20 pm
#272
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I have a WAW-CDG-SFO flight coming up in P with an overnight layover in Paris at the end of the month.
Mostly just curious about what I should expect on arrival at CDG given that my connection is 15 hours later (I seem to remember that last time I arrived in J at CDG from WAW it was at terminal 2G(?) with a very long bus transfer).
I will be leaving the airport and staying with family overnight, however I was able to book a complimentary Hertz Drive-U service to CDG on the morning before the SFO flight.
Mostly just curious about what I should expect on arrival at CDG given that my connection is 15 hours later (I seem to remember that last time I arrived in J at CDG from WAW it was at terminal 2G(?) with a very long bus transfer).
I will be leaving the airport and staying with family overnight, however I was able to book a complimentary Hertz Drive-U service to CDG on the morning before the SFO flight.
To come back to your question, I am not sure you have to expect anything arriving the day before. Best case scenario is that they will wait for you in the jetway and escort you through passport control and baggage claim.
Feb 14, 2021, 10:10 pm
#273
Join Date: Sep 2016
Programs: Flying Blue, Accor Le Club, Hilton HHonors, Hertz Gold Plus, Avis Preferred
Posts: 477
I had an overnight connection at CDG in P in 2015, they escorted me through baggage claim, and by car to my hotel (in CDG). They picked me up by car at my hotel the next morning.
Feb 15, 2021, 11:34 am
#274
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: CH / NL
Programs: LX HON, FB Platinum for life, Sixt/Hilton Diamond
Posts: 189
Looking to book CDG-MEX again, but my journey to start in BRU or AMS. When ticketed by KL, it's about 2200 AF charges 5500 euro.
Would I still be able to upgrade to La Premiere, when ticketed by KL? Or, smaller chances of luck? (I do know LH and LX don't work well together, hope not same here).
Would I still be able to upgrade to La Premiere, when ticketed by KL? Or, smaller chances of luck? (I do know LH and LX don't work well together, hope not same here).
Feb 18, 2021, 4:32 pm
#275
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: VIE/PRG
Programs: FB Platinum, Marriott Platinum Elite
Posts: 1,592
Looking to book CDG-MEX again, but my journey to start in BRU or AMS. When ticketed by KL, it's about 2200 AF charges 5500 euro.
Would I still be able to upgrade to La Premiere, when ticketed by KL? Or, smaller chances of luck? (I do know LH and LX don't work well together, hope not same here).
Would I still be able to upgrade to La Premiere, when ticketed by KL? Or, smaller chances of luck? (I do know LH and LX don't work well together, hope not same here).
MEX-CDG J to P 2k EUR or 265600 miles.
Feb 18, 2021, 4:48 pm
#276
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 453
Feb 18, 2021, 5:08 pm
#277
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Location: Denver • DEN-APA
Programs: AF Platinum, EK Gold, AA EXP, UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 21,602
My La Première plans took a double hit last week as I had to cancel this month's LAX-CDG-IST when LX retimed ZRH-ORD, and then I had to cancel next month's MEX-CDG-HND when AF postponed the restart of CDG-HND. As a consolation, I prepared my latest version of Coquillettes for Valentines Day. Mrs. SFO777 proclaimed that this was my best yet and "even better than in the La Première Lounge". Whoa!
Feb 18, 2021, 9:21 pm
#278
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So JL operates a 77W on CDG-HND on the day I was hoping to travel with a 5 hour CDG connection. If I fly MEX-CDG on AF on one ticket, can I access the LPL on arrival and then make my own way to the JL gate, with a separate CDG-HND ticket?
Feb 18, 2021, 11:54 pm
#279
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your plan may work but not 100% sure (to check with P line) but with the current restrictions, it is not really advisable to travel on separate tickets.
Feb 19, 2021, 2:23 pm
#280
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 453
Can you enter Japan anyway? I thought the country was currently on full lockdown and didn't allow any non Japan citizens/residents. Likely why most flights have been cancelled for the near future.
Feb 19, 2021, 2:44 pm
#281
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Correct, I cannot "enter" Japan but this would be the end of a quick RTW and I'd only be connecting. I need to land at HND as my (free use it or lose it) NH F flight back to LAX is HND-LAX.
Feb 19, 2021, 2:53 pm
#282
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 453
. Although if it's in La Première, JL F and ANA F, it hardly gets better than that .
Feb 19, 2021, 5:45 pm
#283
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: VIE/PRG
Programs: FB Platinum, Marriott Platinum Elite
Posts: 1,592
I agree that it's probably not advisable, but it's just me traveling, so my tolerance for disruption and chaos is much higher when if I was flying with a +1. Plus I really need an AF LP fix.
Correct, I cannot "enter" Japan but this would be the end of a quick RTW and I'd only be connecting. I need to land at HND as my (free use it or lose it) NH F flight back to LAX is HND-LAX.
Correct, I cannot "enter" Japan but this would be the end of a quick RTW and I'd only be connecting. I need to land at HND as my (free use it or lose it) NH F flight back to LAX is HND-LAX.
Feb 19, 2021, 9:43 pm
#284
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Good question. Another concern might be will AF let me board in MEX with just a CDG destination on my AF ticket? Now, a MEX-CDG-IST ticket (for the same 230K miles) should work since I and almost anyone can enter Turkey. Plus if I did this, I wouldn't have any problem accessing and spend time in the LPL. Any issues with just leaving for my JL flight and no-showing CDG-IST (or cancelling if JL lets me board)? If JL doesn't let me board CDG-HND, I could just return and continue to IST later that evening.... and get back to LAX from IST... all within the 72 hours of my pre-trip US PCR test?
Feb 20, 2021, 6:37 am
#285
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: VIE/PRG
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Posts: 1,592
Good question. Another concern might be will AF let me board in MEX with just a CDG destination on my AF ticket? Now, a MEX-CDG-IST ticket (for the same 230K miles) should work since I and almost anyone can enter Turkey. Plus if I did this, I wouldn't have any problem accessing and spend time in the LPL. Any issues with just leaving for my JL flight and no-showing CDG-IST (or cancelling if JL lets me board)? If JL doesn't let me board CDG-HND, I could just return and continue to IST later that evening.... and get back to LAX from IST... all within the 72 hours of my pre-trip US PCR test?