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In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.

La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore, Mexico City*, Sao Paulo and Dubai.

*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.

In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :

(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).

From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)


From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1


From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1


From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1


From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1


From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1


From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55


From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1


From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1


From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00


From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)



Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.

These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)

Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)

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Old Dec 2, 2020, 11:40 am
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Glad to see the maintained commitment to first.
Bizarre that they misspelled "La Premiere".
Unfortunately the fares ex US are almost always significantly higher (some times double) than ex Europe.
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Originally Posted by NYC1
Glad to see the maintained commitment to first.
Bizarre that they misspelled "La Premiere".
Unfortunately the fares ex US are almost always significantly higher (some times double) than ex Europe.
I did find MIA-ARN-MIA for roughly the same price as ARN-MIA-ARN next spring at around $6K.
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Old Dec 3, 2020, 3:43 am
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Originally Posted by NYC1
Bizarre that they misspelled "La Premiere".
They forgot l'accent grave?

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They forgot l'accent grave?

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Yes they did. And for the French, "c'est très grave" !

(They also spell it "La premier", but why miss a good pun?)
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Old Dec 3, 2020, 8:03 am
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Yes they did. And for the French, "c'est très grave" !

(They also spell it "La premier", but why miss a good pun?)
Exactly... My point was more about the missing "e" than the accent.
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Originally Posted by miamiflyer8
I did find MIA-ARN-MIA for roughly the same price as ARN-MIA-ARN next spring at around $6K.
That's pretty good ex-US but good luck finding something like that to a destination like CDG, FRA, BRU, AMS etc. and not 6 months in advance.
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Originally Posted by NYC1
That's pretty good ex-US but good luck finding something like that to a destination like CDG, FRA, BRU, AMS etc. and not 6 months in advance.
At a time when AF was using A380s, there used to be good promotions exUSA. Ad usual for any airline, the fares were higher to the homebase (CDG) than to further European destinations with transit in CDG.
There were constraints, but $5k were not unusual. It was not easy to get good loads on 9F in old A380s.
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Originally Posted by brunos
At a time when AF was using A380s, there used to be good promotions exUSA. Ad usual for any airline, the fares were higher to the homebase (CDG) than to further European destinations with transit in CDG.
There were constraints, but $5k were not unusual. It was not easy to get good loads on 9F in old A380s.
Right. I should have added on the 777 and more specifically from JFK.
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Originally Posted by NYC1
Right. I should have added on the 777 and more specifically from JFK.
The MIA itin I found was indeed on the 77W so that makes the deal even better. I am Scandinavian so ARN works for well for me but as you said, it is less useful for Central Europe.
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Old Dec 4, 2020, 8:41 am
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Close the gap of P seats following the exit of A380

For your information, 7 AF-77W will be retrofit with 8 P seats !
These 77W are coming from the COI and 42J stock.

I have no info so far on the exact design of the 8P cabin.
I’ll write when and if I know more .
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Originally Posted by Bullspread
For your information, 7 AF-77W will be retrofit with 8 P seats !
These 77W are coming from the COI and 42J stock.

I have no info so far on the exact design of the 8P cabin.
I’ll write when and if I know more .
Waouh ! That's some good news !
Curious to see jow they will organize 8 P seats in the 77W
SFO777 and DCAhome like this.
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Old Dec 4, 2020, 12:07 pm
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Originally Posted by matmatlr
Curious to see jow they will organize 8 P seats in the 77W
My 2c : 2 rows of 4 seats
SFO777 and SkyteamEP like this.
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Old Dec 4, 2020, 12:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
My 2c : 2 rows of 4 seats

But that would mean at least 8 to 10 J seats reduction which seems a lot.

Interested to know on which destinations these planes will be used as it will require a high P passengers demand to get a reasonable occupancy rate

At least, P will survive Covid
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Old Dec 4, 2020, 12:18 pm
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Interested to know on which destinations these planes will be used as it will require a high P passengers demand to get a reasonable occupancy rate
I am guesing JFK and LAX for sure. IAD sometimes. In my experience, JNB had decent loads in P, often > 4. I believe you can tell us for MEX and GRU ?
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
I am guesing JFK and LAX for sure. In my experience, JNB had decent loads in P, often > 4. I believe you can tell us for MEX and GRU ?
I definitely will
For MEX, my 2 last trips in P since october were empty, I was the only passenger. Let's see next January if it improves.

GRU will not have P until next April for sure. Flying there on sunday with A350 which is at least a good J seat

It would be nice if they could introduce P to YUL or YYZ as I'm there often (I mean before Covid)
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