Jan 31, 2024, 5:20 pm
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In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,Mexico City*, Sao Paulo and Dubai.
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
AF « La Première » Outlook
Sep 11, 2020, 2:57 am
#151
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: Eurostar Carte Blanche, SBB-CFF-FFS GA-AG, SNCF Grand Voyageur LeClub
Posts: 7,836
By the way, that internet site of the unions is fun to read.
I also found this, a concept they came up with to re-create a vintage product, replicating the Super Constellation days on board a dedicated sub-fleet, with dedicated staff, planes, uniforms, etc. Think of it what you like: https://www.sngaf.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/PARISIEN-SPECIAL-1.pdf
I also found this, a concept they came up with to re-create a vintage product, replicating the Super Constellation days on board a dedicated sub-fleet, with dedicated staff, planes, uniforms, etc. Think of it what you like: https://www.sngaf.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/PARISIEN-SPECIAL-1.pdf
Last edited by San Gottardo; Sep 11, 2020 at 3:18 am
Sep 11, 2020, 7:30 am
#153
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 453
By the way, that internet site of the unions is fun to read.
I also found this, a concept they came up with to re-create a vintage product, replicating the Super Constellation days on board a dedicated sub-fleet, with dedicated staff, planes, uniforms, etc. Think of it what you like: https://www.sngaf.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/PARISIEN-SPECIAL-1.pdf
I also found this, a concept they came up with to re-create a vintage product, replicating the Super Constellation days on board a dedicated sub-fleet, with dedicated staff, planes, uniforms, etc. Think of it what you like: https://www.sngaf.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/PARISIEN-SPECIAL-1.pdf
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Sep 11, 2020, 8:16 am
#154
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 206
By the way, that internet site of the unions is fun to read.
I also found this, a concept they came up with to re-create a vintage product, replicating the Super Constellation days on board a dedicated sub-fleet, with dedicated staff, planes, uniforms, etc. Think of it what you like: https://www.sngaf.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/PARISIEN-SPECIAL-1.pdf
I also found this, a concept they came up with to re-create a vintage product, replicating the Super Constellation days on board a dedicated sub-fleet, with dedicated staff, planes, uniforms, etc. Think of it what you like: https://www.sngaf.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/PARISIEN-SPECIAL-1.pdf
It looks like an interesting read.
Sep 11, 2020, 5:54 pm
#155
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Singapore
Programs: FB PFL, ALL Diamond, Marriott Ambassador, EK PLAT, Air Caraïbes Diam, SQ PPS, ̷IHG Diam
Posts: 98
Nice. Now make sure it actually goes to places (and not just a few).
But of course, let's see if and how this really happens. This wouldn't be the first time that AF changes its mind on something. And there have been numerous instances of new cabin layouts taking literally ages to actually happen. Just think of the time it takes to identify potential suppliers of the seat/ send an RFP / get the offers / negotiate / discuss with Airbus / get the regulator to authorise the seat / get the green light from the cabin attendants that the thickness of the carpet is sufficient to not cause unexpected wearing off of their shoes and friction in their socks and who would pay for the crème réparateur for their feet / re-discuss in the executive committee if they should really do it / re-issue the RFP because the first supplier has gone bust in the meantime / re-select the supplier / re-discuss with Airbus / fend of a strike by the flight attendants who boycott all domestic flights from Lyon because management does not allow Flight Attendant union leaders to book the Salon Premiere for private meetings at short notice for their exclusive use and kick out all passengers but keep all kitchen and service staff at their disosal / go into a two year consultation process with the Elysee and the French Foreign Ministry about whether offering P class to Djibouti, Nouakchott and Bangui is really needed / by the time all of that is done the next global economic crisis is on and Air France will debate for two years whether Premiere is really needed.
But of course, let's see if and how this really happens. This wouldn't be the first time that AF changes its mind on something. And there have been numerous instances of new cabin layouts taking literally ages to actually happen. Just think of the time it takes to identify potential suppliers of the seat/ send an RFP / get the offers / negotiate / discuss with Airbus / get the regulator to authorise the seat / get the green light from the cabin attendants that the thickness of the carpet is sufficient to not cause unexpected wearing off of their shoes and friction in their socks and who would pay for the crème réparateur for their feet / re-discuss in the executive committee if they should really do it / re-issue the RFP because the first supplier has gone bust in the meantime / re-select the supplier / re-discuss with Airbus / fend of a strike by the flight attendants who boycott all domestic flights from Lyon because management does not allow Flight Attendant union leaders to book the Salon Premiere for private meetings at short notice for their exclusive use and kick out all passengers but keep all kitchen and service staff at their disosal / go into a two year consultation process with the Elysee and the French Foreign Ministry about whether offering P class to Djibouti, Nouakchott and Bangui is really needed / by the time all of that is done the next global economic crisis is on and Air France will debate for two years whether Premiere is really needed.
Sep 11, 2020, 11:54 pm
#156
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hong Kong, France
Programs: FB , BA Gold
Posts: 15,564
By the way, that internet site of the unions is fun to read.
I also found this, a concept they came up with to re-create a vintage product, replicating the Super Constellation days on board a dedicated sub-fleet, with dedicated staff, planes, uniforms, etc. Think of it what you like: https://www.sngaf.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/PARISIEN-SPECIAL-1.pdf
I also found this, a concept they came up with to re-create a vintage product, replicating the Super Constellation days on board a dedicated sub-fleet, with dedicated staff, planes, uniforms, etc. Think of it what you like: https://www.sngaf.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/PARISIEN-SPECIAL-1.pdf
Sep 12, 2020, 2:11 am
#157
Join Date: Jun 2020
Programs: FlyingBlue
Posts: 2,424
The page is still there, it's the FT link that is broken.
Try to click here or directly copy-and-paste this link into your browser: https://www.sngaf.com/wp-content/upl...-SPECIAL-1.pdf
It's an interesting read indeed, thanks San Gottardo .
Try to click here or directly copy-and-paste this link into your browser: https://www.sngaf.com/wp-content/upl...-SPECIAL-1.pdf
It's an interesting read indeed, thanks San Gottardo .
Sep 14, 2020, 7:01 am
#158
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: London, Paris
Programs: LH HON, AF Platinum
Posts: 2,001
Anyone have a status update on the meal service? Deciding between LX and AF for my next SFO trip and the price difference of roughly $1k (in favor of AF) might compel me to make the switch if the service is otherwise pretty much close to normal.
Sep 14, 2020, 7:21 am
#159
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Paris and around the WW
Programs: AF/KLM Club2000 Ultimate / M&M HON Circle / ALL Diamond / Hertz President Circle
Posts: 1,040
The main difference is that LP lounge in CDG is still closed which makes the stopover not as nice as before.
Will be flying to MEX in P this sunday, I will report if any difference except that A380 is now replaced 777
Sep 14, 2020, 9:05 am
#161
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hong Kong, France
Programs: FB , BA Gold
Posts: 15,564
All flights this week P4F3 except Sunday.
Sep 14, 2020, 9:29 am
#162
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Paris and around the WW
Programs: AF/KLM Club2000 Ultimate / M&M HON Circle / ALL Diamond / Hertz President Circle
Posts: 1,040
Sep 14, 2020, 9:37 am
#163
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: Eurostar Carte Blanche, SBB-CFF-FFS GA-AG, SNCF Grand Voyageur LeClub
Posts: 7,836
Sep 15, 2020, 5:49 am
#165
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 293
Used p to mex saturday ..first time so nice...
but my ife was broken... cant use and cant switch off...
I felt sad for the flight attendant since i noticed it after making the bed...so i just took another seat to sleep since i was alone...
but my ife was broken... cant use and cant switch off...
I felt sad for the flight attendant since i noticed it after making the bed...so i just took another seat to sleep since i was alone...