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In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.

La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore, Mexico City*, Sao Paulo and Dubai.

*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.

In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :

(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).

From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)


From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1


From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1


From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1


From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1


From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1


From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55


From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1


From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1


From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00


From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)



Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.

These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)

Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)

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Old Aug 20, 2020, 8:52 am
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Originally Posted by vincent_from_Paris
I booked some months ago a flight to Hong Kong in P for February 2021 to go there with my wife and daughter on holidays (I know, I was maybe too optimistic regarding the evolution of the virus!). I have just been informed that P is discontinued on HK and Singapore AF flights from January 2021 until at least end of March 2021... I therefore cancelled my tickets and I will see other options of holidays (probably in France...). I am very surprised by such decision by AF at a time they are in dire need for clients and revenues (3 return tickets to HK in P is not a small amount of money)!
They do not have enough 777s with P seats for all the destinations and I think they prioritize the high-yield market: JFK, LAX, MEX and PVG.
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Old Aug 20, 2020, 8:56 am
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Originally Posted by tbaiyun
They do not have enough 777s with P seats for all the destinations and I think they prioritize the high-yield market: JFK, LAX, MEX and PVG.
That could be a reason why GRU does not have P cabin for the moment either
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Old Aug 20, 2020, 9:02 am
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It is also probably a side-effect of the retirement of the A380...
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Old Aug 20, 2020, 1:09 pm
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CX, LH , and LX are still serving HKG and the three of them provide a very decent F product ;
I will use one of the 3 personally as AF has decided to downgrade their service .
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Old Aug 20, 2020, 2:59 pm
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Originally Posted by vincent_from_Paris
I booked some months ago a flight to Hong Kong in P for February 2021 to go there with my wife and daughter on holidays (I know, I was maybe too optimistic regarding the evolution of the virus!). I have just been informed that P is discontinued on HK and Singapore AF flights from January 2021 until at least end of March 2021... I therefore cancelled my tickets and I will see other options of holidays (probably in France...). I am very surprised by such decision by AF at a time they are in dire need for clients and revenues (3 return tickets to HK in P is not a small amount of money)!
No one knows what will be the real schedules in February.compared to the currently scheduled ones.

But there is currently no nonstop flights to HKG anymore. Both CX and AF have suspended their flights. CX was planning to reintroduce 2 weekly in September but cancelled them. AF is scheduling 1 weekly with a stop in BKK.
There is basically almost no demand for HKG, only expats residing there. It is very doubtful that Hong Kong will allow European tourists by February.
Basically, AF does not need P on this route.for the foreseeable future.
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Old Aug 21, 2020, 9:41 am
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I flew CDG-SFO yesterday and there was one person in P. I asked one of the flight attendants about their current service and he claimed it’s been returned to almost pre-Clovid levels. He didn’t quite expand on what almost means. Sadly I can’t offer first hand knowledge, €2K for the upgrade wasn’t going to happen.
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Old Aug 21, 2020, 11:02 am
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Originally Posted by NumbThumb
I flew CDG-SFO yesterday and there was one person in P. I asked one of the flight attendants about their current service and he claimed it’s been returned to almost pre-Clovid levels. He didn’t quite expand on what almost means. Sadly I can’t offer first hand knowledge, €2K for the upgrade wasn’t going to happen.
We're flying LAX-CDG in P in three weeks and will report with pics. Fingers crossed.
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Old Aug 21, 2020, 11:22 am
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Originally Posted by vincent_from_Paris
I am very surprised by such decision by AF at a time they are in dire need for clients and revenues (3 return tickets to HK in P is not a small amount of money)!
Business travel is close to a standstill, and a lot of people will, like you, replace their plans for long haul flying by domestic or regional travel. In short, the demand for P is likely to be minimal, and the cabin was never a big revenue generator in the first place, more of a prestige generator. Right now, this simply is not the priority and realistically, I suspect that all major airlines will drastically reduce their F offering throughout the crisis, however sad this may be to many.
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Old Aug 22, 2020, 12:23 am
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Originally Posted by matmatlr
That could be a reason why GRU does not have P cabin for the moment either
on SIN and HKG routes, 777 will be ( temporarily ?) replaced by 787 ( thus with no P seats)
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Old Aug 22, 2020, 4:54 am
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Originally Posted by NumbThumb
I flew CDG-SFO yesterday and there was one person in P. I asked one of the flight attendants about their current service and he claimed it’s been returned to almost pre-Clovid levels. He didn’t quite expand on what almost means. Sadly I can’t offer first hand knowledge, €2K for the upgrade wasn’t going to happen.
Should have asked the P pax upon landing (if you were also waiting there for many minutes). Would have considered the upgrade but flying on 10th August it felt like what would be offered is virtually J service with P seat (especially when the plane took off from G gates instead of A gates and thus no lounge access).
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Old Aug 22, 2020, 7:24 am
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Pilots used to fly First class, even if they might not have the full service.
is that still the case?
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Old Aug 22, 2020, 8:47 am
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Originally Posted by matmatlr
That could be a reason why GRU does not have P cabin for the moment either
on SIN and HKG routes, 777 will be ( temporarily ?) replaced by 787 ( thus with no P seats)
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Old Aug 22, 2020, 8:48 am
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Originally Posted by Jean97
on SIN and HKG routes, 777 will be ( temporarily ?) replaced by 787 ( thus with no P seats)
A350 on GRU No P either...
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Old Aug 22, 2020, 9:08 am
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Originally Posted by Sjondorn
Should have asked the P pax upon landing (if you were also waiting there for many minutes). Would have considered the upgrade but flying on 10th August it felt like what would be offered is virtually J service with P seat (especially when the plane took off from G gates instead of A gates and thus no lounge access).
Carry-on + Global Entry, I was in the open air within 10 min. Return is on KLM so no option. Now that we know service is back to normal it’d be very tempting.
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Old Aug 22, 2020, 2:10 pm
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Originally Posted by brunos
Pilots used to fly First class, even if they might not have the full service.
is that still the case?
seen that indeed for 2 years ago on a CDG/MIA
. 3 pilots travelling in P on A380 as with IATA season following flight was on 77W and had to be operated by another crew.
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