CZAMFlyer

Not ideal, sure, but not a (critical) emergency either. The crew successfully started the engine again prior to landing in Moscow, and even if a similar event occurred mid-ocean and they were unable to restart the engine, the reliability required to gain their ETOPS certification all but ensures a successful outcome.

Provided of course, the mechanics properly tightened the other metering units on the good engine. I may sound glib, but this seems like an entirely preventable occurrence and really should not be expected with an airline of AC's standing. I'm curious to learn the chain of events that led to the shutdown.

Losing ETOPS certification would be likely if an airline is prone to experimenting with single-engine flight; the resultant costs in terms of added fuel, route/schedule adjustments, increased overflight charges and likely loss of premium revenue should - hopefully - get AC's attention in a big way.

yyznomad

Isn't this just as busy as any other in-service mainline widebody FIN, more or less?

24left

I was just responding to ITAG per this exchange, and adding C-FNOE's recent activity

24left

Can someone explain how this process works?

"The crew requested to divert to London, however, was denied while already in UK airspace near Plymouth,EN (UK) and therefore set course for a return to Paris."


Incident: Canada A333 over Atlantic on Jun 22nd 2018, hydraulic failure

By Simon Hradecky, created Sunday, Jun 24th 2018 20:49Z, last updated Sunday, Jun 24th 2018 20:49Z

An Air Canada Airbus A330-300, registration C-GFAH performing flight AC-885 from Paris Charles de Gaulle (France) to Montreal,QC (Canada), was enroute at FL360 about 600nm west of Brest (France) when the crew decided to abort the flight due to a hydraulic failure. The crew requested to divert to London, however, was denied while already in UK airspace near Plymouth,EN (UK) and therefore set course for a return to Paris. The aircraft landed safely back in Paris about 4.5 hours after departure.

A passenger reported the captain announced about 2.5 hours into the flight they were diverting to London due to a hydraulic failure, subsequently announced that they were refused by ATC and were now returning to Paris.

https://avherald.com/h?article=4ba4a68b&opt=0

CZAMFlyer

Did the crew declare an emergency? If not, is ATC obliged to accommodate a voluntary diversion?

More likely question: did the passenger accurately recount what he/she heard?

Cozmo456

Likely they wanted to land where there was AC presence and service for a 330. If it was a really big emergency, they would have landed in Shannon.

Stranger

Dublin, yes. I thought Shannon was operated by 737s?

yyz_atc_qq

I will explain on July 13th

tcook052

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/lo...486510211.html

Passengers were stuck in their seats for at least 90 minutes Sunday night after an Air Canada flight landed on the tarmac in Winnipeg, due to a flight attendant's missing passport.

CZAMFlyer

Wouldn't the more serious issue be the plane "landing on the tarmac"?

Anyway, surely there must be better ways of resolving a missing passport than this. No way they'd detain the planeload if it were yours or my document. And of what use is taking pictures of passengers' passports?
How miserable...and if the FA finds the missing passport (probably lying with the heap of phones between the J seats and a window), he/she should personally phone each customer to apologize and offer each of them use of their flight pass benefits for one trip each.

canadiancow

Not that I trust the media to have all facts, but there was no evidence presented to suggest a theft at all. Could a pocket have been left open, and it had just fallen out?

Anyway, I'm shocked either AC or the RCMP would take on the liability of detaining people with zero evidence against n-1, and likely zero evidence against the perpetrator, if there was one.

tcook052

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/lo...486751971.html

Passengers kept on an airplane at the Winnipeg airport for more than an hour to be individually interviewed about a missing flight attendant's passport were "unlawfully detained" by police, legal experts suggest.

yyznomad

Kettling by Airplane? (how dare I use such a word)

I guess since they were interviewed and let go one-by-one, it wasn't technically that. But I'm sure it felt somewhat like it.

ffsim

RangerNS

When you land, you taxi to the gate and get off. There isn't much ceremony. Nothing at all like getting through security, aboard, sitting through a safety demo. The crew asking the passengers to clean, and then a pair of armed officers coming through the only door to interrogate the entirety of the flight to any reasonable definition qualifies as "significant physical or psychological restraint".

A number of people should be getting fired. Pretty much anyone wearing a uniform that day.