pitz

Doubt it. They're tagging on at least an additional flight hour (ie: $10k+) for most diversions (could be worse if they have to divert way off course), and then there's landing fees, crewing, and even the cost of having their employees deal with the police/testify if the matter is pursued further.

Even $25k might be low-balling it.

This probably doesn't happen very often, diversions due to behaviour, but I wonder if there's a legitimate business reason why AC isn't presenting the full bill of costs to the court? Not wanting proprietary information to be disclosed perhaps?

Stranger

Perhaps Ivanhoe Mines is a good customer?

Anyway, surely sugar hubby could pay for his trophy wife.

jaysona

http://avherald.com/h?article=4809c98f&opt=0

By Simon Hradecky, created Wednesday, Jan 21st 2015 23:42Z, last updated Wednesday, Jan 21st 2015 23:42Z

An Air Georgian Beech 1900D, registration C-GAAR performing flight ZX-7226 from Cranbrook,BC to Calgary,AB (Canada) with 12 passengers and 2 crew, was descending through 14,000 feet towards Calgary when the aircraft encountered severe turbulence causing minor injuries to one of the flight crew. The aircraft continued for a safe landing in Calgary.

The Canadian TSB reported one flight crew member received minor injuries, the aircraft received damage.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/G...105Z/CYXC/CYYC

Metars:
CYYC 182300Z 24005KT 40SM FEW060 SCT140 BKN200 05/M04 A2949 RMK SC1AC2CI3 SLP024 DENSITY ALT 3700FT
CYYC 182200Z 22007KT 40SM FEW060 SCT120 BKN160 BKN200 04/M03 A2946 RMK SC1AC2AC3CI1 SLP017
CYYC 182100Z 22005KT 210V290 40SM FEW060 SCT140 BKN180 BKN200 04/M03 A2946 RMK SC1AC2AC3CI1 SLP013
CYYC 182000Z 22007KT 40SM FEW060 BKN140 BKN160 03/M02 A2946 RMK SC1AC4AC2 SLP018
CYYC 181900Z 20005KT 40SM FEW060 BKN150 02/M02 A2946 RMK SC1AC6 SLP013
CYYC 181800Z 21007KT 40SM FEW060 BKN150 BKN200 M00/M03 A2948 RMK SC1AC4CI2 SLP022
CYYC 181700Z 19003KT 40SM BKN160 M03/M04 A2949 RMK AC7 SLP028
CYYC 181600Z 03003KT 40SM FEW030 BKN110 M03/M04 A2948 RMK SC2AC5 PRESFR SLP026
CYYC 181529Z 00000KT 40SM FEW028 BKN100 M03/M04 A2951 RMK SC2AC5 SLP035
CYYC 181513Z 30004KT 230V320 8SM -PL SCT020 BKN150 M02/M04 A2952 RMK SC3AC4 SLP037
CYYC 181500Z 23003KT 200V260 4SM R29/4000VP6000FT/D -FZRA -SN SCT016 BKN030 M03/M05 A2952 RMK SC4SC3 PRESFR SLP039

superangrypenguin

I know your an airplane expert so I thought i'd ask you. Is damage to an airframe a regularly common thing caused by wx? It doesn't list it as flying through a tstorm either, unless I'm mistaken.

My own research indicates that aircraft structural failures are uncommon (I recognize this isn't a failure, just damage), with the last one being from 2008, hence my question

jaysona

Aircraft "damage" on this case could mean as something as minor as a lever in the cockpit being broken, bent etc.

Structural damage can occur due to a high load event, but those are exceedingly rare - with the exception of high loads due to hard landings.

Airframes are designed to withstand induced high loads due to turbulence without having any effect on the structural integrity of the airframe itself.

tcook052

http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/air-canada...kong-1.2216162

Several passengers were assessed by paramedics after an Air Canada flight from Hong Kong landed in Toronto on Sunday evening.

Peel Paramedics said several passengers had symptoms of nausea and vomiting, but that they chose to leave the airport on their own after being assessed instead of being transported to a hospital.

PLeblond

"Peel Police said a nurse investigated and the illnesses were found to be turbulence-related."

Maybe one of those cases when one person gets sick, and a few other get sick because of seeing/hearing someone getting sick?

tcook052

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle22829563/

An Air Canada passenger plane leaving Barbados for Toronto with 203 people on board had to turn back shortly after takeoff Thursday because of a fire scare.

Flight AC 967, a twin-engined Boeing 777, normally leaves Grantley Adams International Airport around 4:30 p.m., heading for Toronto�s Pearson International.

jaysona

http://avherald.com/h?article=4809c2be&opt=0

By Simon Hradecky, created Wednesday, Jan 21st 2015 22:51Z, last updated Tuesday, Feb 3rd 2015 21:25Z

An Air Canada Airbus A330-300, registration C-GFAH performing flight AC-835 from Geneva (Switzerland) to Montreal,QC (Canada), was climbing out of Geneva when the crew stopped the climb at 10,000 feet reporting not all gear doors had closed and returned to Geneva for a safe landing 45 minutes after departure.

The occurrence aircraft was still on the ground in Geneva 10 hours after landing.

On Feb 3rd 2015 Canada's TSB reported maintenance replaced the retraction delay valve and the left hand main gear uplock assembly.

PLeblond

I'm guessing such a short flight meant they didn't need to dump fuel. That or it was enough of an emergency that they judged there wasn't time.

24left

Incident: Air Canada B772 at Bridgetown on Feb 5th 2015, cargo smoke indication

By Simon Hradecky, created Friday, Feb 6th 2015 17:03Z, last updated Friday, Feb 6th 2015 17:03Z

An Air Canada Boeing 777-200, registration C-FIVK performing flight AC-967 from Bridgetown (Barbados) to Toronto,ON (Canada), was climbing out of Bridgetown's runway 09 when the crew stopped the climb at 2000 feet reporting a cargo smoke indication and returned to Bridgetown for a safe landing on runway 09 about 5 minutes after departure. Emergency services did not find any trace of fire, smoke or heat.

The flight was cancelled.

http://avherald.com/h?article=48165287&opt=0

hearna

5 minutes... that's pretty darn quick... I suppose on such a short route there is little fuel and not close to being overweight

yyz_atc_lj

They won't care one bit about weight if there is any fear of fire, they'll land ASAP. Plane may need to be inspected afterwards.

hearna

Curious topic... if it was overweight (ie; not able to land on the available runway lenght...) what becomes more important; getting the plane on the ground even if it means an assured crash landing... Runway 09 is almost straight into the ocean...

CloudsBelow

Would think 6 hours of fuel would be a lot but perhaps a light load above and below deck left it below MLW. Can't be much cargo exBGI wouldn't think?

Now we see the implications of sending 777L to BGI - Wonder what the logistical fallout will be having your niche ULH frame stuck down there

Edit: Just saw PAX count. 203. Curios move by AC. They must be shipping high volume goods.