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Old Feb 16, 2015, 3:08 pm
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Originally Posted by jaysona
Swiss Air 111 showed what can happen when you spend too much time trying to diagnose a system. In this case the crew knew the oven was overheating - this means fire is imminent (time to fire is unknown) which means the plane has to be on the ground ASAP.
You would think there might be a switch/breaker that cuts power to the oven?
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Old Feb 16, 2015, 3:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Stranger
You would think there might be a switch/breaker that cuts power to the oven?
There is one.

The smoke wasn't necessarily caused by an electrical issue. And should a short have ignited something, the breaker stops the electrical current, but its too late if temperatures have gone above the flash point.

Jaysona's point, I believe, was that in flight, with lots of good alternative landing choices, running a diagnostic of the situation was not the best choice.
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Old Feb 16, 2015, 4:54 pm
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Originally Posted by PLeblond
There is one.
Yes, in the show they showed the captain pulled a fuse? which killed off anything unnecessary in the pax cabin...including AVOD and others.
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Old Feb 16, 2015, 7:34 pm
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Tonights flight turned back to YYZ while over New Hampshire ( according to flight aware ). The 777W was way closer to YUL so can't be that serious.
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Old Feb 16, 2015, 7:50 pm
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Originally Posted by yul36
Tonights flight turned back to YYZ while over New Hampshire ( according to flight aware ). The 777W was way closer to YUL so can't be that serious.
EF says it turned back due to a "potable water fault"... Guess that's why they preferred to go to YYZ (presumably its home base).
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Old Feb 17, 2015, 1:56 am
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Originally Posted by yul36
Tonights flight turned back to YYZ while over New Hampshire ( according to flight aware ). The 777W was way closer to YUL so can't be that serious.
Originally Posted by ffsim
EF says it turned back due to a "potable water fault"... Guess that's why they preferred to go to YYZ (presumably its home base).

According to Flightradar24, C-FITU was switched out for C-FIUV.

I would believe that indeed a) it wasn't serious and b) YUL does not have spare 773s so YYZ was the better option.
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Old Feb 20, 2015, 7:44 am
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Originally Posted by ffsim
EF says it turned back due to a "potable water fault"...
I thought potable water was carried in plastic bottles? Did they suddenly melt down?
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Old Feb 20, 2015, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by Mauricio23
I thought potable water was carried in plastic bottles? Did they suddenly melt down?
There may be a difference between potable for coffee/lavs/other systems and 'drinking' water, served from bottles.
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Old Feb 20, 2015, 1:46 pm
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Originally Posted by PLeblond
There may be a difference between potable for coffee/lavs/other systems and 'drinking' water, served from bottles.
There's plenty of stories of Air Canada planes being dispatched without water in lavatories or coffee. Now they make one turn around in the air? Must be something different.
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Old Feb 20, 2015, 2:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Mauricio23
There's plenty of stories of Air Canada planes being dispatched without water in lavatories or coffee. Now they make one turn around in the air? Must be something different.
Maybe.

Possibly because its a TATL flight? Or maybe the fault was a leak in the system, and not just inoperable.

Either way, for a Captain to turn a plane around, it must have been important enough.
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Old Feb 26, 2015, 5:57 pm
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...dour-1.2974577

The scent of something burning forced an Air Canada flight bound for Edmonton to land in Toronto on Thursday afternoon, the airline has confirmed.

Flight AC127 was carrying 142 passengers when it was forced to turn around and return to Pearson airport Thursday afternoon, after a "burnt odour" was detected, according to an Air Canada spokeswoman.

The plane landed safely and pulled up to one of the airport's gates.
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Old Feb 26, 2015, 9:45 pm
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The scent of something burning forced an Air Canada flight bound for Edmonton to land in Toronto on Thursday afternoon, the airline has confirmed.
Scent, eh?

Are there perfumes that smell like smoke?

(I really wish that people would shower rather than use scent.... And let's not mention countries.)
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Old Feb 26, 2015, 9:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Stranger
Scent, eh?

Are there perfumes that smell like smoke?

(I really wish that people would shower rather than use scent.... And let's not mention countries.)
Sounds like another AXE body spray incident.
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Old Feb 27, 2015, 6:40 pm
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Incident: Sky Regionl E175 enroute on Feb 5th 2015, engine problems on two consecutiv

http://avherald.com/h?article=4826e1fd&opt=0

By Simon Hradecky, created Friday, Feb 27th 2015 22:01Z, last updated Friday, Feb 27th 2015 22:01Z

A Sky Regional Embraer ERJ-175 on behalf of Air Canada, registration C-FEJF performing flight RS-7487/AC-7487 from Toronto,ON (Canada) to Dallas Ft. Worth,TX (USA), was enroute at FL340 northeast of Dallas Ft. Worth when the crew received "A/T Fail" and "ENG TLA TRIM FAIL" indications. The crew worked the related checklists, the messages disappeared, the crew was unable to select autothrust back on however. A few minutes later the messages re-appeared. At the top of descent 130nm northeast of Dallas all indications for the left hand engine (CF34) were removed from the displays. The captain took control of the aircraft, the first officer radioed Mayday and requested direct to Dallas. The aircraft landed safely on Dallas' runway 35C.

The Canadian TSB reported on Feb 27th 2015, that emergency services found no anomalies with the aircraft, which taxied to the apron. Maintenance replaced the FADEC computer of the left hand engine, no further faults were found and the aircraft returned to service.

The following day (Feb 6th), about 19.5 hours after landing, the aircraft departed for the return flight RS-7575/AC-7575 and was enroute, when the same faults occurred again. The aircraft landed safely in Toronto.

The TSB reported that maintenance following the troubleshooting guidance replaced the Generic Input Output Module 1, Actuated Input Output Processor in the Modular Avionics Unit and the Thrust Control Quadrant. Tests revealed no further faults and the aircraft returned to service.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...355Z/CYYZ/KDFW
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Old Mar 1, 2015, 11:16 am
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http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/toronto-bo...-u-s-1.2257288

JOHNSTOWN, Pa. - A Toronto-bound jet with 35 people aboard has landed safely at a Pennsylvania airport after smoke from a shorted-out cabin light prompted the captain to declare an emergency.

Air Canada Express Flight 7316 landed around noon Friday at Johnstown-Cambria County Airport, about 70 miles east of Pittsburgh.

No injuries were reported.
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