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Old Feb 9, 2015, 5:40 pm
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
They were worried about THAT during an emergency? Yikes!! That'd be the last thing I'd be thinking about if I had hundreds of people on my aircraft.
Rules is rules; whether company policy or national laws. If the plane is airworthy and nothing else is going on, get the weight down to a safe level for landing. BTW both his parents were among the pax so he had extra incentive to have that safe landing.
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Old Feb 9, 2015, 6:51 pm
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Originally Posted by hazcaddy
Rules is rules; whether company policy or national laws. If the plane is airworthy and nothing else is going on, get the weight down to a safe level for landing. BTW both his parents were among the pax so he had extra incentive to have that safe landing.
I guess I interpreted your post where you mentioned "one engine shear off from within its nacelle" as something pretty serious.

If it's not, then obviously I'm wrong, but if his parents were on board, I'm sure he did the right thing

I guess it just sort of surprised me when I read an engine had been torn off...and they are looking into environmental issues. But hey, I'm not a commercial pilot by day
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Old Feb 9, 2015, 7:06 pm
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Re: AC967

The Captain once flew CF-18's for the Canadian military. Had top marks in a Top Gun competition in the States. Smartest man I know. I've joked with him that if I was ever on the show 'Who Wants to be a Millionaire', I would want him to be my 'phone a friend'.

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Old Feb 9, 2015, 8:05 pm
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Originally Posted by hearna

Was it the same fin (That they where scared to load the cargo into?)



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Originally Posted by Stranger

Isn't that a bit scary for the people on board too?
Re AC967 - It was same plane, and yeah, it was a tad nerve wracking. Captain explained that they think a fan in the cargo bin overheated, releasing a puff of smoke, which set off the sensor. Kind of like when you burn toast and the smoke detector goes off. He sure got that plane down fast. He was awesome. Scared the locals on the ground who thought it was going to shear off their homes. Hopefully my first and last emergency landing.
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Old Feb 10, 2015, 12:30 pm
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Originally Posted by CloudsBelow
What are you saying? What's "not how it works"?
I said the 777 was likely light for such a short flight. Do you know what they had in the belly on that flight?
The MLW on the 777LR is not much higher than the MZFW. While we can intelligently speculate the landing was not overweight, it's not a certainty.

Anyways, please do let me know how it works
I was trying to say that the "losd in the belly" needed not be light.

That the takeoff weight for a six hours flight would be quite low compared to a 15 hours one, much much less than proportional to the ratio between flying times.

Because in long range operation, the fuel load represents a significant fraction of the takeoff weight.

In other words,for a six hours flight, the 777LR takeoff weight will be quite low even if the cargo is more or less normal.

Before WWII, Imperial Airways flew flying boats over the Atlantic. These were unable to take off with a full fuel load and were refueled in flight. A bit scary with high octane gasoline.
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Old Feb 11, 2015, 3:27 am
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AC03 Diversion

Looks like the 788 operating AC 03 diverted to ANC. Rescue flight 7061 en route from YVR to fetch the folks. eta 2:43 local. Per, flight radar 24 and flight aware.
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Old Feb 11, 2015, 3:38 am
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Comments:
AC0003/10FEB EQU ACA788P05
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J O Y
YVR - 1425 - 10.05
NRT 1730*1 TOTAL TIME YVRNRT 10.05
YVR 1435 00:10L ANC?2245 788 ANA AD AA
ANC?0445 04:26L NRT 0600 10:41L 77W ED EA
RMKS/DIVERT TO ANC DUE ENGINE DEV FIN 801FLIGHT DIVERTED TO ANC
DUE TO MTC FIN 801 OIL PRESURE PROBLEM// FLIGHT WILL BE RESCUR
ED BY FIN 744/ PSGER WILL BE DEPLANED IN ACN
YVR NRT
DEP TML M GATE --/D70
ARR TML 1 GATE --/-----


Interesting, but someone also needs to learn to spell properly.
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Old Feb 11, 2015, 5:10 am
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Old Feb 11, 2015, 5:52 am
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Fin 744 was to operate AC142 this morning. Flight is now operated by a 763.

AC4 on 2/11 cancelled of course.
AC2004 will operate 2/12 departing NRT at 22:00.

The arrival time from Flightaware is optimistic. I believe there is a 6:00 curfew at NRT. Flight would arrive at the gate about 6:10 at the earliest.
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Old Feb 11, 2015, 6:29 am
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Yowzas.... on 3 tmrw...
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Old Feb 11, 2015, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by yyznomad
Yowzas.... on 3 tmrw...
Almost all 787 issues have been software glitches with diversions being overly cautious since there is little accumulated data.

I'm pretty sure fin 801 will be up and running shortly.
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Old Feb 11, 2015, 8:29 am
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Originally Posted by PLeblond
Almost all 787 issues have been software glitches with diversions being overly cautious since there is little accumulated data.

I'm pretty sure fin 801 will be up and running shortly.
The future appears grim for my 787 flight.............

Lighting candles now...........

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Old Feb 11, 2015, 10:02 am
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Air Canada Dreamliner makes unscheduled landing in Anchorage, Alaska

Made the mainstream media:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...aska-1.2953192
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Old Feb 13, 2015, 4:34 pm
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Incident: Air Canada B788 over Pacific on Feb 10th 2015, engine oil indication

http://avherald.com/h?article=481b1727&opt=0

By Simon Hradecky, created Thursday, Feb 12th 2015 20:50Z, last updated Friday, Feb 13th 2015 22:02Z

An Air Canada Boeing 787-800, registration C-GHPQ performing flight AC-3 from Vancouver,BC (Canada) to Tokyo Narita (Japan), was enroute at FL400 about 1480nm southwest of Anchorage,AK (USA), about to cross from over Bering Sea to over Pacific Ocean about 200nm east of Kamchatka (Russia), when the crew received an engine (GEnx) oil indication and initially set course to divert to Cold Bay,AK (USA) about 1000nm east of their present position before deciding to divert to Anchorage. The aircraft maintained FL400 until reaching the top of descent to Anchorage and landed safely in Anchorage about 3.5 hours after the indication.

The airline reported the crew received an oil indication for one of the engines.

A replacement Boeing 777-300 registration C-FIVX reached Tokyo with a delay of 14:15 hours.

A ground observer reported the left hand engine was being worked on.

The aircraft on the ground, watch the ladder waiting for use on the apron near the left hand engine:

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Old Feb 13, 2015, 4:35 pm
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Incident: Air Canada A333 at Calgary on Feb 5th 2015, rejected takeoff due to engine

http://avherald.com/h?article=481bf102&opt=0

By Simon Hradecky, created Friday, Feb 13th 2015 22:29Z, last updated Friday, Feb 13th 2015 22:29Z

An Air Canada Airbus A330-300, registration C-GFAH performing flight AC-850 from Calgary,AB (Canada) to London Heathrow,EN (UK) with 162 people on board, was accelerating for takeoff on Calgary's runway 35R when the crew received an "ENG THRUST LOSS" ECAM indication and rejected takeoff at about 105 knots. The aircraft slowed safely, vacated the runway and stopped on an adjacent taxiway.

The Canadian TSB reported the crew declared PAN, the aircraft remained stationary on the taxiway for 26 minutes before returning to the gate. There was a known issue with one of the control relays relating to an air flow control valve, maintenance replaced the relay and the valve.

A replacement Boeing 767-300 registration C-GSCA reached London with delay of 8:20 hours.
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