"Somewhat scary one near Winnipeg" - The AC Master Incidents Thread
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"Somewhat scary one near Winnipeg" - The AC Master Incidents Thread
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Not the only one:
http://avherald.com/h?article=40c2e422&opt=0
http://avherald.com/h?article=40c7f146&opt=0
(Wasn't there also a Jazz with a cracked windshield recently?)
http://avherald.com/h?article=40c2e422&opt=0
http://avherald.com/h?article=40c7f146&opt=0
(Wasn't there also a Jazz with a cracked windshield recently?)
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Another AC incident from same source:
Incident: Air Canada B773 over Arctic Ocean on Sep 10th 2008, mechanical issue
By Simon Hradecky, created Thursday, Sep 11th 2008 20:04Z, last updated Thursday, Sep 11th 2008 20:04Z
An Air Canada Boeing 777-300, registration C-FIUL performing flight AC65 from Toronto,ON (Canada) to Seoul (South Korea) with 187 people on board, was at 84N/140W over the Arctic Ocean, when the crew advised, that they had a mechanical problem and needed to divert to Fairbanks,AK (USA). The airplane landed safely at Fairbanks 2 hours and 43 minutes later.
A replacement aircraft, Boeing 777-300 registration C-FRAM, resumed the flight and is estimated to reach Seoul with a delay of 9.5 hours
Incident: Air Canada B773 over Arctic Ocean on Sep 10th 2008, mechanical issue
By Simon Hradecky, created Thursday, Sep 11th 2008 20:04Z, last updated Thursday, Sep 11th 2008 20:04Z
An Air Canada Boeing 777-300, registration C-FIUL performing flight AC65 from Toronto,ON (Canada) to Seoul (South Korea) with 187 people on board, was at 84N/140W over the Arctic Ocean, when the crew advised, that they had a mechanical problem and needed to divert to Fairbanks,AK (USA). The airplane landed safely at Fairbanks 2 hours and 43 minutes later.
A replacement aircraft, Boeing 777-300 registration C-FRAM, resumed the flight and is estimated to reach Seoul with a delay of 9.5 hours
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AC must have had an action plan for provisioning another aircraft even before original one landed, since it would have taken at least 6 hours just to fly one in from YYZ or YUL, and a good 3 or 4 hours to get one in place from YVR.
Kudos to AC for taking care of their passengers so well! People love to gripe and complain incessantly about AC in these forums, but its during incidents like these that AC really shines.
Forced engine shutdown, I'd imagine?
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Incident: Air Canada A320 near Chicago on Sep 11th 2008, medical emergency
An Air Canada Airbus A320-200, registration C-FZQS performing flight AC795 from Toronto,ON (Canada) to Los Angeles,CA (USA), diverted to Chicago O'Hare,IL (USA) due to a medical emergency.
The aircraft departed Chicago with a delay of 2.5 hours.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...030Z/CYYZ/KLAX
Source: Aviation Herald
An Air Canada Airbus A320-200, registration C-FZQS performing flight AC795 from Toronto,ON (Canada) to Los Angeles,CA (USA), diverted to Chicago O'Hare,IL (USA) due to a medical emergency.
The aircraft departed Chicago with a delay of 2.5 hours.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...030Z/CYYZ/KLAX
Source: Aviation Herald
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The 77 story made me smile. As a meeting planner who uses AC, I've pleaded to no avail for over a decade for extra flights for my groups (even over 18 months out and with the cash to boot). Amazing at huge loss of cash to shareholders, they pull another 77 out of the shed and away we go. Agree was the right tihng to do and it's one of the reasons I use AC, but in the last 3 years alone I've given over 1000 revenue seats to American carriers!
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I think it'd be over 8h from YYZ -- the scheduled duration for NW's DTW-FAI is 8:39.
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Okay, just doing some more digging on the 10-September AC incident that resulted in a diversion to FAI.
Flightaware says that AC7058 , a 762, arrived from YVR.
AC 2065, a 762, left for YVR later.
There's no record of any aircraft departing for Seoul from Fairbanks this week. And the only AC operations that show up in Flightaware are 762-based.
So something is wrong with that news article.
Well... I've seen on numerous occasions, AC swapping a 321 for a scheduled 319, when there was a significant tour group aboard.
But doing that isn't too difficult. Adding extra flights, or changing the crew levels in a significant way takes a lot more planning..
Flightaware says that AC7058 , a 762, arrived from YVR.
AC 2065, a 762, left for YVR later.
There's no record of any aircraft departing for Seoul from Fairbanks this week. And the only AC operations that show up in Flightaware are 762-based.
So something is wrong with that news article.
As a meeting planner who uses AC, I've pleaded to no avail for over a decade for extra flights for my groups (even over 18 months out and with the cash to boot). Amazing at huge loss of cash to shareholders, they pull another 77 out of the shed and away we go. Agree was the right tihng to do and it's one of the reasons I use AC, but in the last 3 years alone I've given over 1000 revenue seats to American carriers!
But doing that isn't too difficult. Adding extra flights, or changing the crew levels in a significant way takes a lot more planning..
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Incident: Air Canada B763 near Toronto on Sep 11th 2008, hydraulics failure
The crew of an Air Canada Boeing 767-300, registration C-GSCA performing flight AC847 from Munich (Germany) to Toronto,ON (Canada), declared emergency due to a hydraulics failure while approaching Toronto. The airplane landed without incident.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...003Z/EDDM/CYYZ
Source: Aviation Herald
The crew of an Air Canada Boeing 767-300, registration C-GSCA performing flight AC847 from Munich (Germany) to Toronto,ON (Canada), declared emergency due to a hydraulics failure while approaching Toronto. The airplane landed without incident.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...003Z/EDDM/CYYZ
Source: Aviation Herald
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Okay, just doing some more digging on the 10-September AC incident that resulted in a diversion to FAI.
Flightaware says that AC7058 , a 762, arrived from YVR.
AC 2065, a 762, left for YVR later.
There's no record of any aircraft departing for Seoul from Fairbanks this week. And the only AC operations that show up in Flightaware are 762-based.
So something is wrong with that news article.
Well... I've seen on numerous occasions, AC swapping a 321 for a scheduled 319, when there was a significant tour group aboard.
But doing that isn't too difficult. Adding extra flights, or changing the crew levels in a significant way takes a lot more planning..
Flightaware says that AC7058 , a 762, arrived from YVR.
AC 2065, a 762, left for YVR later.
There's no record of any aircraft departing for Seoul from Fairbanks this week. And the only AC operations that show up in Flightaware are 762-based.
So something is wrong with that news article.
Well... I've seen on numerous occasions, AC swapping a 321 for a scheduled 319, when there was a significant tour group aboard.
But doing that isn't too difficult. Adding extra flights, or changing the crew levels in a significant way takes a lot more planning..
An Air Canada Boeing 777-300, registration C-FIUL performing flight AC65 from Toronto,ON (Canada) to Seoul (South Korea) with 187 people on board, was at 84N/140W over the Arctic Ocean, when the crew advised, that they had a mechanical problem and needed to divert to Fairbanks,AK (USA). The airplane landed safely in Fairbanks 2 hours and 43 minutes later with emergency services standing by for the landing.
The passengers were brought from Fairbanks to Vancouver,BC (Canada) by an Air Canada Boing 767-200, registration C-FVNM, which was ferried from Vancouver to Fairbanks as flight AC7058 and returned to Vancouver with passengers as flight AC2065. One part of the passengers got booked onto flight AC63 Vancouver to Seoul, others onto Singapore Airlines flight 17.
Air Canada dispatched another Boeing 777-300, registration C-FRAM, directly to Seoul as a replacement for the return flight AC66, which departed Seoul with a delay of 11 hours and reached Toronto with a delay of 10 hours.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...418Z/CYYZ/RKSI
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...040Z/CYVR/PAFA
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...617Z/PAFA/CYVR
Last edited by airbus320; Sep 13, 2008 at 10:26 am Reason: to add source :avherald