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Old Feb 24, 2017, 2:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Ber2dca
There's a perception, rightly or wrongly, that some crews put on the seat belt signs because it reduces their workload and makes it easier for them to have an uninterrupted chat in the galley.

I don't see it a *lot* but I've certainly been on a couple of flights that had the signs on 80% of the time with no signs of turbulence. I personally tend to stay buckled up for the entire flight most flights (though I typically loosen it once the plane is cruising). However, I can certainly see why people get jaded about it if crew use them so much that pax don't directly associate the signs with actual danger anymore.

Now if a captain announces an area of turbulence approaching and people still don't buckle up, well then that's pretty unfortunate. I imagine sleep/headphones/language might often be an issue there.
The cabin crew have no control of the seat belt sign, only the cockpit crew can enable/disable the seat belt sign.

I have on occasion asked the cabin crew to check with the captain to ask how much longer s/he expects the sign to stay on. The seat belt sign is usually switched off just after the call to the cockpit is made.

The cockpit crew are usually occupied with many tasks up front, and sometimes forget to turn off the sign after it has been tuned on mid-flight due to turbulence.
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 3:44 am
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Ac623/24feb

Saw aircraft on 15R as I came to work. According to GTAA twitter "involved in incident on landing". No injuries.

anyone on board from FT??
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 4:22 am
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http://www.avherald.com/h?article=4a56419e&opt=0

Mods I guess this should likely be moved to the incidents thread.
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 6:36 am
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Glad no one was hurt.
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 6:37 am
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...nway-1.3999438

The Transportation Safety Board is investigating after an Air Canada plane arriving from Halifax with 112 passengers skidded off the runway early Saturday at Toronto's Pearson International, in heavy rain and fog.
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 6:40 am
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Wow, that kicked up a lot more dirt than I expected.
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 6:43 am
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The new paint job will hide most of that
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 6:45 am
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Originally Posted by yyz_atc_qq
The new paint job will hide most of that
omg! Do you think the new paint job was designed to hide hard landings?
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 9:00 am
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Is there a curse attached to Halifax flights? What have the people have Halifax done to incur the wrath of the Anemoi.

What happens now? Plane is out of service and it undergoes what kind of physical inspection? Can it be done in Toronto, or does it get a ferry flight elsewhere?
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 9:02 am
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Originally Posted by Sean Peever
omg! Do you think the new paint job was designed to hide hard landings?
No, just to hide muddy landings
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 9:03 am
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Originally Posted by yyz_atc_qq
No, just to hide muddy landings
oh! so we have a new type of landing! So what's the difference between a hard landing and a muddy landing?
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 9:05 am
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I wonder how long it takes before the ambulance chasers show up.
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 9:06 am
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Originally Posted by Sean Peever
oh! so we have a new type of landing! So what's the difference between a hard landing and a muddy landing?
That's easy.... if the plane is still on its own gear, then it's muddy.
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 9:06 am
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Originally Posted by Sean Peever
oh! so we have a new type of landing! So what's the difference between a hard landing and a muddy landing?
Speaking of muddy take-off:
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 9:09 am
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Originally Posted by yyz_atc_qq
That's easy.... if the plane is still on its own gear, then it's muddy.
What if the gear collapses gut it's still technically on the gear?
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