rankourabu

https://www.cp24.com/news/passengers...blem-1.3999540

Passengers forced to deplane Air Canada flight at Pearson after brake problem

CZAMFlyer

From the linked article: Given the time that must have elapsed between the pilots recognizing the smoking brakes issue, stopping the aircraft, shutting it down, lowering the stairs and evacuating the passengers.....where's the fire crews?

24left

Nuts

yyznomad

12 was for unruly passengers according the twitter account

What was the original reason for 28 before it stopped diverting?

24left

I'm more curious about these unruly / disruptive..

As for AC 28, perhaps someone else can explain why it might have diverted

Stranger

Not sure if that hard landing has been mentioned?

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...-landi-450086/

Sean Peever

I read through all the ones I missed, and nothing was near Winnipeg, can we please keep this thread on topic.

travel agent

flight 85 TLV - YYZ on Jul. 11was cancelled & rebooked as 2085 on Jul. 12, then was cancelled again, now its planned as 2185 on Jul. 13, so passengers are stuck for 48 hours.

songsc

http://www.bst-tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapport...3/a17o0243.pdf

Investigation report for Jazz Q400 hard landing at YTZ last year is out

yyznomad

What were the initial and subsequent reasons?

yyz_atc_qq

and it has factually incorrect information.

Stranger

That was the source of the article I posted previously. 6.7 g landing. Ooch. As they say, strong beast the Dash-8.

yyznomad

You mean in that it was a soft landing?

longtimeflyin

This is shocking. So that aircraft flew back to YUL with passengers after the "hard landing"?!

Relevant passages on page 3:

"No abnormalities were noted during the takeoff, landing, or taxiing of the return flight to CYUL. Jazz maintenance personnel subsequently conducted an inspection of the aircraft at CYUL and found that the FDR system’s inertia switch had activated and that there was physical evidence of a hard landing.
Aircraft damage
The inspection at CYUL found that the aircraft had sustained substantial damage, including buckling of the skin below the windows on the right fuselage (Figure 1). The landing conditions experienced by the right main landing gear during the second touchdown exceeded its ultimate design criteria, which resulted in failure of the orifice support tube during the in-stroke (Figure 2). Once the orifice support tube failed, shock strut damping was effectively lost, thereby generating significant bottoming loads."



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The flight crew, in coordination with the MCC, reviewed the procedures for an illuminated FDR caution annunciator. In addition to confirming switch selections, the flight crew performed the circuit breaker reset procedure. However, the annunciator remained illuminated.
It was determined that, in accordance with Jazz’s Transport Canada–approved Q4007 minimum equipment list (MEL), the aircraft could be dispatched with the FDR inoperative, provided that the CVR was operative and repairs were made within 3 flight days. Although the CVR had been tested on the first flight of the day, neither the flight crew nor the MCC considered reconfirming that the CVR was operative at this time.

Comment: The MEL needs to be revised.

expert7700

My God

It's bad enough when AC pilots fail to preserve valuable 30minute CVR retention data. But when they crash land, then maintenance personnel will conveiently clear or overwrite the data days later..

"During the inspection by maintenance personnel at CYUL, the inertia switch was reset, which caused
the CVR to be electrically powered and the data for the occurrence flight and landing to be
overwritten."

My law would be 1) any airplane flying to, from, or over my country who provides internet access for passengers, employee, or onboard sales is REQUIRED to live stream FDR/CVR/GPS location to government run archiving server. Failire to to so results in 7 day suspension of operators and fleet airworthiness certificates.