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Old Jan 27, 2020, 3:42 pm
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Key points of AC COVID change/cancellation policy [as of December 10, 2021]:
(see this page under "Changes and cancellations")

Unlimited changes. No change fees. – Until December 31, 2021, if you want to change your flight, we'll waive the change fee. After December 31, 2021, you can make one change at no extra charge. If your new fare has a higher price, you only need to pay the difference from your original fare.

If Air Canada changes the time of your flight, you make a change for free.*
*Within 3 days for North American destinations and 7 days for international and sun destinations.

If your flight is cancelled, you get a refund – If your flight is cancelled for any reason and we don’t rebook you on another flight that departs or arrives within three hours of your original departure or arrival time, or if we add a connection to your itinerary, you can request a refund.

Need to cancel? Save the value for future travel – If you need to cancel a booking, the full value can be transferred to an Air Canada Travel Voucher, which never expires and is fully transferrable, or converted into Aeroplan points with a 65% bonus. Refundable tickets are always refundable.

Flexibility with Aeroplan bookings – Until December 31, 2021, if you want to change your Aeroplan flight reward, we'll waive all change fees. After December 31, 2021, you can still make one change without a fee.
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Old Mar 15, 2020, 7:11 pm
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Originally Posted by eigenvector
For those holding off on making changes to bookings, waiting for mass cancellations and assuming you'll be able to refund penalty free at that point, consider that airlines may not actually issue the refund you'd normally be entitled to in an effort to preserve cash. One major international carrier has already done this and we're just getting started.
To which airline are you referring?
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Old Mar 15, 2020, 7:12 pm
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I'm in Lima right now and was scheduled to only fly home on April 17th. With the announcements from the Canadian government and Peru talking about issuing a mandatory national quarantine, similar to Italy and Spain, I'm coming home early. The process was not easy and please please please, if you are thinking of coming home, do it now before it gets worse. As a fair warning, my original flight was booked with UA and taking an AC segment and it was a hassle getting it changed via UA. The girl was fantastic and dealt with my million different route questions.

I couldn't get on the LIM -> YYZ flight at all. Like no dice. Forget trying to get into the US and then to YUL (my hometown) direct. This was the route I need to take in order to get home:
  • LIM - PTY leaving March 16th at 1:03am
  • PTY - IAH leaving at 4:47am ish
  • Overnight stop in IAH (better than going to ORD and spending overnight in the airport)
  • IAH - IAD on March 17th leaving at 7:45am
  • IAD - YUL leaving at 5:05pm

This was the best we could do in order to get me home sooner than later and this was over an HOUR of trying to match segments together that had room. As I noted earlier on, my original flight on AC from IAH - YUL was already pushed back because they cancelled the original flight I was on. Things are getting much harder to get home and flights are filling up fast. Don't try and wait it out, just go home now.
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Old Mar 15, 2020, 7:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Adam Smith
To which airline are you referring?
United, see here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unit...ch-2020-a.html

Basically, some things that would have ordinarily made a restricted ticket eligible for full refund aren't eligible for a refund at all anymore, and even those that still are eligible will not be refunded in cash for at least 1 year.

I don't want to derail this thread by discussing too much of another airline's behaviour, but just be aware that you can no longer assume that normal policies will apply.
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Old Mar 15, 2020, 10:43 pm
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Old Mar 16, 2020, 6:39 am
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New aircraft cleaning process now in place. Plane desinfected with pretty strong stuff after each flight. Need to wait roughly 10 minutes after cleaners are out before being able to board to "air" the aircraft... and this is on a small DH3...
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Old Mar 16, 2020, 7:25 am
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Originally Posted by YOWCDNFF
New aircraft cleaning process now in place. Plane desinfected with pretty strong stuff after each flight. Need to wait roughly 10 minutes after cleaners are out before being able to board to "air" the aircraft... and this is on a small DH3...
I wonder how much of this extra cleaning (err... just cleaning in general) will persist after this situation is over. I really hope it does.
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Old Mar 16, 2020, 8:20 am
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A couple of AC's *A European partners have suspended operations. It may or may not matter, depending on whether people on AC tickets still need to get out of Europe.

AC seems to have updated their page since yesterday.





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Old Mar 16, 2020, 8:26 am
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Phone lines are pretty jammed, but they'd be less so if the online methods were able to handle the basics. An upcoming European booking I had finally changed but when I tried to cancel online it tried to charge me a fee. I called in, waited an hour (only!) and got a full refund instead.
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Old Mar 16, 2020, 8:51 am
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Originally Posted by skybluesea

Despite this I encourage air travel, where essentially necessary, as we must NOT forget keeping AC going, at least in limited form, is crucial in these times so that life-safety goods can move quickly and health-care workers can go to where they might be needed if hot spots emerge that need additional resources.
Respectfully, this is the wrong attitude. We must NOT travel. We must literally stay at home and do nothing.

I will hope that AC will be around at the end of this but booking a flight which could help spread the virus and risk people and front line workers is just plane wrong.
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Old Mar 16, 2020, 9:00 am
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Old Mar 16, 2020, 9:09 am
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Originally Posted by skybluesea
Can you please provide an authoritative source that demands this today?

Air Canada continues to sell tickets and fly airplanes - if your statement was true then entire fleet should be grounded NOW - right?

and how would this be possible if AC stopped entirely.

Globe & Mail today "The federal government issued an advisory urging Canadians travelling overseas to come home as soon as possible, cautioning that “new restrictions may be imposed with little warning.”
There are a lot of people who are are not "home". I suspect a substantial amount of that travel is people just trying to get home.
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Old Mar 16, 2020, 9:10 am
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Originally Posted by milesforhire
Might be too soon to tell, but does this new policy allow older tickets to be extended to December 31, 2020? I don't see the "one year after issue" verbiage that I see on some of the US airlines. I have a grandfathered 3-stop trip that was booked in August and I might need to push it out.
Anyone has any info on this? Stuck in the same situation currently. Ticket was originally issued august 20, 2019 so the "one year after issue" is August 20, 2019. For a trip of similar length to the one I have (April 30 to June 14), the latest I can leave is July 1st. If the one year is voided, I would rather book sept-nov if possible without losing my three-stops, and all the current segment per segment hassle DPs.
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Old Mar 16, 2020, 9:12 am
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Originally Posted by skybluesea
Can you please provide an authoritative source that demands this today?

Air Canada continues to sell tickets and fly airplanes - if your statement was true then entire fleet should be grounded NOW - right?

and how would this be possible if AC stopped entirely.

Globe & Mail today "The federal government issued an advisory urging Canadians travelling overseas to come home as soon as possible, cautioning that “new restrictions may be imposed with little warning.”
I agree, AC's main role right now is to get people home, but that ought to be all. Lots of people, and entire provinces, at the moment think that they are special and won't get to a state like Italy. Or maybe they are trying to delay inevitable economic damage. That is irresponsible and reckless. Time and again, country after country (China, Italy, Spain, France, who's next?) has demonstrated that none are special. The only difference is when the cases started arriving. We are next, but we are still lucky enough to have had some warning from others. Let's not let this go to waste. The only way to slow this pandemic is to stay at home. It is reckless to travel right now.

We have seen entire countries, over and over, go from banning travel from certain cities, then all international, then closing public places, then borders, then lockdowns. All of them have essentially progressed this way. Do you want to be caught across the country, without your family or home, unable to get back when domestic travel is finally restricted? Travel if you will, but you're taking a risk. And you're also risking becoming another vector of transmission to the next cluster of cases and the next hospital that is overloaded where people will inevitably die. Get home.

We are not special. We all need to do our part, now.
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Old Mar 16, 2020, 9:15 am
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Originally Posted by lcohen999
Respectfully, this is the wrong attitude. We must NOT travel. We must literally stay at home and do nothing.

I will hope that AC will be around at the end of this but booking a flight which could help spread the virus and risk people and front line workers is just plane wrong.
Agreed.


Originally Posted by skybluesea
Can you please provide an authoritative source that demands this today?

Air Canada continues to sell tickets and fly airplanes - if your statement was true then entire fleet should be grounded NOW - right?

......

I really don't want this thread to get sidetracked with debate on whether anyone should or should not fly AC, internationally, to the U.S. or domestically. And regardless of how you interpret the messages in the media and from the government (neither of which have been clear), you cannot encourage people who DON'T HAVE TO FLY, to go out and buy tickets on AC to keep them in business.

AC has cash on hand, they will do as all other airlines have done recently and park aircraft, redeploy aircraft and reduce staff.

There have already been posts from the likes of the Alberta government with a recent list of AC flights on which there were infected pax and/or crew.

Do not sound the call for everyone to do their civic duty and go fly AC just to support the company or the staff. You don't know which pax or FAs might have the virus from their travels and there is no need to add to the workload.

I.M.H.O.
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Old Mar 16, 2020, 9:28 am
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