May 5, 2014, 8:21 pm
Last edit by: Arcanum
Flights operated by Air Canada rouge
NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087
Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.
All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.
Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.
Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR
*Seasonal Summer Service
YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)
USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)
Mexico
CUN PVR SJD
Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)
Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW
Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY
YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA
Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)
Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP
Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE
Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)
Africa
CMN
YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)
USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)
YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)
Mexico
CUN PVR
Asia
KIX
Europe
DUB LGA KEF
What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
Air Canada rouge, a leisure airline
Jul 21, 2016, 10:57 am
#6556
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,645
I recently booked YYZ-PRG on Rouge in a 767 but I've got major concerns about this > 8 hour journey after reading the horrible (1-2 star) reviews on Skytrax and other comments in this thread that compare it unfavorably with Greyhound.
Still, I think YYZ-PRG nonstop is better than splitting the journey into two segments to fly with AC/LH, even though the latter would seem to offer much better comfort and service. I have one segment before YYZ-PRG, so choosing something other than this Rouge nonstop would create a 3-segment journey.
I booked the flight using miles from United MileagePlus (in saver economy).
Does anyone know if it's possible to upgrade from such a booking into premium economy?
Any other experience with this particular flight? From what I read online, generally, it seems that Rouge aircraft are very old, not cleaned, and have extremely uncomfortable high density seating of the type typically used by low cost airlines for short domestic trips. I deal with those configurations all the time on 2-4 hour trips, but using such a configuration for a ~9 hour journey is something I've never encountered.
Still, I think YYZ-PRG nonstop is better than splitting the journey into two segments to fly with AC/LH, even though the latter would seem to offer much better comfort and service. I have one segment before YYZ-PRG, so choosing something other than this Rouge nonstop would create a 3-segment journey.
I booked the flight using miles from United MileagePlus (in saver economy).
Does anyone know if it's possible to upgrade from such a booking into premium economy?
Any other experience with this particular flight? From what I read online, generally, it seems that Rouge aircraft are very old, not cleaned, and have extremely uncomfortable high density seating of the type typically used by low cost airlines for short domestic trips. I deal with those configurations all the time on 2-4 hour trips, but using such a configuration for a ~9 hour journey is something I've never encountered.
Jul 21, 2016, 11:11 am
#6557
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: YVR
Programs: SE 100K
Posts: 935
Anyone flown the Rouge A321 YLW - YYZ (or any other route) ?
Seatguru says the pitch and width are actually better than the 777's.
Curious if this is the case / how the ride was.
Also wondering about Rouge IRROPS. Say I'm flying YLW - YYZ as above and the plane goes mechanical or something.
Would AC re-book / re-route via mainline? ie) YLW - YVR - YYZ?
Seatguru says the pitch and width are actually better than the 777's.
Curious if this is the case / how the ride was.
Also wondering about Rouge IRROPS. Say I'm flying YLW - YYZ as above and the plane goes mechanical or something.
Would AC re-book / re-route via mainline? ie) YLW - YVR - YYZ?
Jul 21, 2016, 11:17 am
#6558
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YXU
Programs: AC SE100K, National E/E, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond, MB, Avis PC
Posts: 971
I recently booked YYZ-PRG on Rouge in a 767 but I've got major concerns about this > 8 hour journey after reading the horrible (1-2 star) reviews on Skytrax and other comments in this thread that compare it unfavorably with Greyhound.
Still, I think YYZ-PRG nonstop is better than splitting the journey into two segments to fly with AC/LH, even though the latter would seem to offer much better comfort and service. I have one segment before YYZ-PRG, so choosing something other than this Rouge nonstop would create a 3-segment journey.
I booked the flight using miles from United MileagePlus (in saver economy).
Does anyone know if it's possible to upgrade from such a booking into premium economy?
Any other experience with this particular flight? From what I read online, generally, it seems that Rouge aircraft are very old, not cleaned, and have extremely uncomfortable high density seating of the type typically used by low cost airlines for short domestic trips. I deal with those configurations all the time on 2-4 hour trips, but using such a configuration for a ~9 hour journey is something I've never encountered.
Still, I think YYZ-PRG nonstop is better than splitting the journey into two segments to fly with AC/LH, even though the latter would seem to offer much better comfort and service. I have one segment before YYZ-PRG, so choosing something other than this Rouge nonstop would create a 3-segment journey.
I booked the flight using miles from United MileagePlus (in saver economy).
Does anyone know if it's possible to upgrade from such a booking into premium economy?
Any other experience with this particular flight? From what I read online, generally, it seems that Rouge aircraft are very old, not cleaned, and have extremely uncomfortable high density seating of the type typically used by low cost airlines for short domestic trips. I deal with those configurations all the time on 2-4 hour trips, but using such a configuration for a ~9 hour journey is something I've never encountered.
Rouge aircraft are indeed very old. They have 1990's style cabins with slim line seats added. I deliberately booked YYZ-PUJ in Y in order to try the regular Y cabin on this aircraft and I definitely won't do it again. Too cramped even for a 4 hour flight (albeit our flight back became quite longer due to avoiding thunderstorms). And yes, cleanliness is not something I would connect with Rouge. My older son's seat had dried vomit on it on the outbound flight. The rest of the vomit was on the carpet. Re-seating was impossible, as the flight was packed to the rafters.
I definitely wouldn't fly Rouge in Y to Europe (perhaps Rouge Plus to the Caribbean). Premium Rouge could be survivable, however. But it is priced on par with mainline premium economy, so one would start thinking about connecting options again.
Jul 21, 2016, 11:21 am
#6559
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YXU
Programs: AC SE100K, National E/E, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond, MB, Avis PC
Posts: 971
Anyone flown the Rouge A321 YLW - YYZ (or any other route) ?
Seatguru says the pitch and width are actually better than the 777's.
Curious if this is the case / how the ride was.
Also wondering about Rouge IRROPS. Say I'm flying YLW - YYZ as above and the plane goes mechanical or something.
Would AC re-book / re-route via mainline? ie) YLW - YVR - YYZ?
Seatguru says the pitch and width are actually better than the 777's.
Curious if this is the case / how the ride was.
Also wondering about Rouge IRROPS. Say I'm flying YLW - YYZ as above and the plane goes mechanical or something.
Would AC re-book / re-route via mainline? ie) YLW - YVR - YYZ?
Jul 21, 2016, 12:33 pm
#6560
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,645
To clarify, I'm wondering if it's possible to pay cash to upgrade into premium Y with a ticket that was purchased using United MileagePlus miles. I don't expect any sort of free upgrade.
Jul 21, 2016, 12:35 pm
#6561
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: YVR
Programs: UA Premier Platinum
Posts: 3,759
A cash upgrade offer may be made available when you check-in (at a kiosk or online) depending on whether space is available.
Jul 21, 2016, 1:03 pm
#6562
Join Date: Oct 2010
Programs: ACA 35K, Omni Select Guest Black
Posts: 216
AC Rouge A321 YYZ-SAN Q about legroom (I am tall)
I am 6'3" tall with long legs. I know the econo seat pitch is advertised as 29" for AC Rouge A321s... I'm writing to ask if anyone out there who is 6'3" has flown this seat and if so can your legs physically fit in there without your knees jamming into the seat in front? It's a 5 hour flight so I'm slightly worried that I shouldn't book this. PS I have arthritis and a history (though not on planes) of blood clots.
Jul 21, 2016, 1:20 pm
#6563
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: I'm From Here
Programs: AC*SE & MM/*Wood Gold/HHonors Diamond/Marriott Silver/AirMiles Gold
Posts: 4,567
Lets put it this way
I am 5"3 and I find it painful
I am 5"3 and I find it painful
Jul 21, 2016, 1:29 pm
#6564
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: yyz
Posts: 1,611
i'm 6'5" and I can't fit. god save you if the person in front of you reclines. you need to pay to select emergency row seating.
Jul 21, 2016, 1:30 pm
#6565
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC E50K (*Gold), DL, CZ
Posts: 1,252
Seats 12C or D have lots of legroom. Plus, the business seat won't intrude too much if they recline.
There are also 2 seats with no seats in front. 19AF, if I'm not mistaken.
There are also 2 seats with no seats in front. 19AF, if I'm not mistaken.
I am 6'3" tall with long legs. I know the econo seat pitch is advertised as 29" for AC Rouge A321s... I'm writing to ask if anyone out there who is 6'3" has flown this seat and if so can your legs physically fit in there without your knees jamming into the seat in front? It's a 5 hour flight so I'm slightly worried that I shouldn't book this. PS I have arthritis and a history (though not on planes) of blood clots.
Jul 21, 2016, 2:08 pm
#6566
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 583
I am 6'4" and the only way I survived this flight was to select a seat near the very back as there were several empty rows. Was able to use all 3 seats to sit perpendicularly.
Install the app so you can BYOD and watch their IFE. Also, you can order the hot breakfast from "J" if there are any left, I think was it only $11 and not too shabby.
Cheers
Install the app so you can BYOD and watch their IFE. Also, you can order the hot breakfast from "J" if there are any left, I think was it only $11 and not too shabby.
Cheers
Jul 21, 2016, 2:31 pm
#6567
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE
Posts: 2,343
I'm 6'3" with long legs, and can't fit into the normal rouge seats without angling my legs sideways.
Highly recommend buying a rouge plus seat (rows 12,17, 31, and 32 DEF on the 321), which will give you a lot of extra legroom.
Highly recommend buying a rouge plus seat (rows 12,17, 31, and 32 DEF on the 321), which will give you a lot of extra legroom.
Jul 21, 2016, 2:32 pm
#6568
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE
Posts: 2,343
Jul 21, 2016, 3:55 pm
#6569
Formerly known as newbie elite
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: YUL
Programs: IHG Diamond Ambassador, Accor Platinum, AC50K
Posts: 2,928
Fly another airline.
Jul 21, 2016, 4:09 pm
#6570
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC E50K (*Gold), DL, CZ
Posts: 1,252
My mistake! I was boarding PHX-YYZ (A319). We just deplaned right now as storms have caused the pilots to refuel. Ugh, long day gets longer.
You're thinking of the 319 where row 19 has some preferred seats. Different setup on the rouge 321, but the good thing is that there are more plus seats. Here's the seatmap http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fl...-200rouge.html