Mini RTW Questions
Sep 16, 2013, 2:31 pm
#1576
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This is true. After travel starts, you can make changes for $90 and not incur taxes / YQ / etc.
Sep 16, 2013, 2:51 pm
#1577
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Sep 16, 2013, 4:49 pm
#1578
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Sep 16, 2013, 8:12 pm
#1579
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YEG
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Ok so lets say one will not execute the Mini RTW; but instead go for a longer path; I imagine going TATL on both legs is allowed?
If so; what options would I have to complete this;
YOW-YUL-ZRH(S)-SIN-MEL(D)-ASIA(S)-EUROPE-YOW
Does anyone think that something such as
MEL-AKL(lol)-NRT-IST(?)-YYZ-YOW would work?
Other ideas?
What is the MPM5 for yow-mel?
How much (if any) backtracking is allowed?
Is it absolutely imperative to connect via SIN on the return as well for it to be a published routing?
If so; what options would I have to complete this;
YOW-YUL-ZRH(S)-SIN-MEL(D)-ASIA(S)-EUROPE-YOW
Does anyone think that something such as
MEL-AKL(lol)-NRT-IST(?)-YYZ-YOW would work?
Other ideas?
What is the MPM5 for yow-mel?
How much (if any) backtracking is allowed?
Is it absolutely imperative to connect via SIN on the return as well for it to be a published routing?
2 Seats in this before the next round of degradation to the program that are due in Dec; and that should just about make my account empty!
Sep 16, 2013, 9:17 pm
#1580
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YYZ
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YQ does suck - but considering the value I'm getting from trying these bonafide F products (I've priced NH F round trips at $20K), I'll still grudgingly pay the few hundred in YQ.
Besides, I'm hoping there'll be a class action one day where I'll be able to recover the $2K I've paid in YQ on these two trips.
Sep 16, 2013, 9:57 pm
#1581
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,187
Yes, this is done quite frequently I suspect. I did last year when my wife and I needed to get back to the west coast from Europe a few days early and found direct LH F availbility on short notice, rather than huffing it through YYZ.
Sep 16, 2013, 10:02 pm
#1582
Join Date: Aug 2011
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I've heard CA F has a decent hard product, but in general aren't both products a cut below the YQ-applicable NH, OZ and LH? I'd probably rather go with J on LX/BR/SQ/SN if hard product is the real concern, saving some miles if YQ is priority #1.
YQ does suck - but considering the value I'm getting from trying these bonafide F products (I've priced NH F round trips at $20K), I'll still grudgingly pay the few hundred in YQ.
Besides, I'm hoping there'll be a class action one day where I'll be able to recover the $2K I've paid in YQ on these two trips.
YQ does suck - but considering the value I'm getting from trying these bonafide F products (I've priced NH F round trips at $20K), I'll still grudgingly pay the few hundred in YQ.
Besides, I'm hoping there'll be a class action one day where I'll be able to recover the $2K I've paid in YQ on these two trips.
CA is pretty good in F out of LAX to PEK, but beware of J from elsewhere ie: YVR - not so much.
Sep 16, 2013, 10:28 pm
#1583
Join Date: Aug 2011
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I suspect if you go via AKL you will have trouble. SQ might be hard to find seats with. Consider TG via BKK and then C2 and home with the usual suspects. TK would be preferable for YQ.
In all cases going back from MEL/SYD etc will be much easier.
Sep 17, 2013, 4:51 am
#1584
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I've heard CA F has a decent hard product, but in general aren't both products a cut below the YQ-applicable NH, OZ and LH? I'd probably rather go with J on LX/BR/SQ/SN if hard product is the real concern, saving some miles if YQ is priority #1.
YQ does suck - but considering the value I'm getting from trying these bonafide F products (I've priced NH F round trips at $20K), I'll still grudgingly pay the few hundred in YQ.
Besides, I'm hoping there'll be a class action one day where I'll be able to recover the $2K I've paid in YQ on these two trips.
YQ does suck - but considering the value I'm getting from trying these bonafide F products (I've priced NH F round trips at $20K), I'll still grudgingly pay the few hundred in YQ.
Besides, I'm hoping there'll be a class action one day where I'll be able to recover the $2K I've paid in YQ on these two trips.
Book YQless bad product (who in their right mind would fly UA F unless absolutely required?), fly segment 1 and madly dash to http://flisea.com to look for subsequent alternatives
Sep 17, 2013, 5:59 am
#1585
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YEG
Posts: 3,717
MPM5 YUL-MEL is 13130 TPAC, nothing for TATL
I suspect if you go via AKL you will have trouble. SQ might be hard to find seats with. Consider TG via BKK and then C2 and home with the usual suspects. TK would be preferable for YQ.
In all cases going back from MEL/SYD etc will be much easier.
I suspect if you go via AKL you will have trouble. SQ might be hard to find seats with. Consider TG via BKK and then C2 and home with the usual suspects. TK would be preferable for YQ.
In all cases going back from MEL/SYD etc will be much easier.
Someone upstream made reference to MPM for YOW-MEL and not YUL.
Does YOW-MEL not have a TATL MPM? If not; what are the available published routes? How would this differ if say our origin was NYC?
Sep 17, 2013, 6:10 am
#1586
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None of YUL, YOW, NYC has a TATL MPM published. Only published routings, it would appear.
Sep 17, 2013, 6:12 am
#1587
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YYZ
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Exactly what sp4294 says
Book YQless bad product (who in their right mind would fly UA F unless absolutely required?), fly segment 1 and madly dash to http://flisea.com to look for subsequent alternatives Waiting to change until after travel starts is a cutting it a little too close for me. I can see such a strategy working for LH and TG, but not NH or OZ (good luck finding the latter two last minute.)
Sep 17, 2013, 12:39 pm
#1589
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I've heard CA F has a decent hard product, but in general aren't both products a cut below the YQ-applicable NH, OZ and LH? I'd probably rather go with J on LX/BR/SQ/SN if hard product is the real concern, saving some miles if YQ is priority #1.
YQ does suck - but considering the value I'm getting from trying these bonafide F products (I've priced NH F round trips at $20K), I'll still grudgingly pay the few hundred in YQ.
Besides, I'm hoping there'll be a class action one day where I'll be able to recover the $2K I've paid in YQ on these two trips.
YQ does suck - but considering the value I'm getting from trying these bonafide F products (I've priced NH F round trips at $20K), I'll still grudgingly pay the few hundred in YQ.
Besides, I'm hoping there'll be a class action one day where I'll be able to recover the $2K I've paid in YQ on these two trips.
Cant compare to OZ F as never flown them in F.
LH F is probably the only one I'd consider a scamcharge on over CA F.
UA F is just a poor man's F - basically a TATL placeholder until LH F opens up, after travel has begun pay the $102 change fee to avoid scamcharges.
Sep 17, 2013, 2:50 pm
#1590
Join Date: Jan 2008
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You can do some searches on the AE website or flisea.com on random dates and see what you come up with. Since you're SE you will get lots more results on AE if you use the priority search. You can also look at the thread that lists other mini-RTW that others have booked to get some ideas. The results I posted above all came from one search where I picked a depart and return travel date about 10 months out. If you're not sure if what you put together is valid, try and book it. (You may want to try a few times because you never know what kind of reaction you will get on the other end of the line!)