Mini RTW Questions
Aug 10, 2013, 1:00 pm
#1426
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Quebec and Ontario, Canada
Programs: AC*E50, SPG/Marriott Plat
Posts: 1,917
I couldn't believe Autralia / NZ - (SIN) - NRT - NA does not work, if it is true it is new and a shame, because it was the only way to fly NZ J (AKL-NRT-NA), as there is no J seat on AKL-NA direct (except Hawaii but it is old 763 planes).
Aug 10, 2013, 1:29 pm
#1427
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,666
Yeah, I'm surprised too. AKL-NRT-ORD-YYZ does not work.
Buying ORD-YYZ on an open jaw SYD/BNE ticket doesn't work either.
So it looks like, tentatively I'll do the following:
YYZ-IST AC J (stop)
IST-SIN SQ J
SIN-SYD SQ J
BNE-SIN SQ J
SIN-TPE SQ J
TPE-YYZ BR J
I ran into problems trying to get SIN and NRT on one ticket. BNE-NRT-YYZ is acceptable, only because NRT-YYZ is direct and no SIN in there.
EDIT: AKL-NRT-YYZ is acceptable. NRT-YYZ must be direct though.
Buying ORD-YYZ on an open jaw SYD/BNE ticket doesn't work either.
So it looks like, tentatively I'll do the following:
YYZ-IST AC J (stop)
IST-SIN SQ J
SIN-SYD SQ J
BNE-SIN SQ J
SIN-TPE SQ J
TPE-YYZ BR J
I ran into problems trying to get SIN and NRT on one ticket. BNE-NRT-YYZ is acceptable, only because NRT-YYZ is direct and no SIN in there.
EDIT: AKL-NRT-YYZ is acceptable. NRT-YYZ must be direct though.
Last edited by tng11; Aug 10, 2013 at 1:39 pm
Aug 10, 2013, 1:39 pm
#1428
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: YTZ
Programs: Hertz & Avis PC; National EE; SPG & Hilton Gold; AC 35K (yawn)
Posts: 5,921
Yeah, I'm surprised too. AKL-NRT-ORD-YYZ does not work.
Buying ORD-YYZ on an open jaw SYD/BNE ticket doesn't work either.
So it looks like, tentatively I'll do the following:
YYZ-IST AC J (stop)
IST-SIN SQ J
SIN-SYD SQ J
BNE-SIN SQ J
SIN-TPE SQ J
TPE-YYZ BR J
I ran into problems trying to get SIN and NRT on one ticket. BNE-NRT-YYZ is acceptable, only because NRT-YYZ is direct and no SIN in there.
Buying ORD-YYZ on an open jaw SYD/BNE ticket doesn't work either.
So it looks like, tentatively I'll do the following:
YYZ-IST AC J (stop)
IST-SIN SQ J
SIN-SYD SQ J
BNE-SIN SQ J
SIN-TPE SQ J
TPE-YYZ BR J
I ran into problems trying to get SIN and NRT on one ticket. BNE-NRT-YYZ is acceptable, only because NRT-YYZ is direct and no SIN in there.
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Aug 10, 2013, 1:43 pm
#1429
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Quebec and Ontario, Canada
Programs: AC*E50, SPG/Marriott Plat
Posts: 1,917
There is no published itinerary from NA to SYD via SIN with more than one stop in Europe. They refused me a YUL-ZRH-IST-SIN-Anything in Australia or NZ 2 months ago...
Aug 10, 2013, 1:56 pm
#1430
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,666
Does booking that have any impact on the return flights?
Aug 10, 2013, 1:58 pm
#1431
Join Date: May 2007
Location: YYZ, but my heart is in Asia
Programs: AC-SE, CX-DM, DL-G, Hyatt-DM, Hilton-DM, Fairmont-Plt, Marriott-S, Accor-Plt, SPG-G, IHG-Plt
Posts: 4,396
For Australia and New Zealand, in my limited experience, I have done these:
YYZ-FRA-ZRH-BKK-SYD
YYZ-YUL-ZRH-BKK-SYD
YYZ-NRT-ICN-SYD
YYZ-NRT-HKG-BKK-MEL
YYZ-HKG-SIN-PER
YYZ-NRT-HKG-SIN-PER
YYZ-SYD-AKL
YYZ-NRT-KIX-AKL
YMMV, but I don't care about AC scamcharges. I just want to take the most direct route, the stops/connections are all legitimate stops that I would take advantage of. I hate taking tours of airports and lounges.
YYZ-FRA-ZRH-BKK-SYD
YYZ-YUL-ZRH-BKK-SYD
YYZ-NRT-ICN-SYD
YYZ-NRT-HKG-BKK-MEL
YYZ-HKG-SIN-PER
YYZ-NRT-HKG-SIN-PER
YYZ-SYD-AKL
YYZ-NRT-KIX-AKL
YMMV, but I don't care about AC scamcharges. I just want to take the most direct route, the stops/connections are all legitimate stops that I would take advantage of. I hate taking tours of airports and lounges.
Aug 10, 2013, 2:07 pm
#1432
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: YTZ
Programs: Hertz & Avis PC; National EE; SPG & Hilton Gold; AC 35K (yawn)
Posts: 5,921
FWIW, this is what I booked about a week ago:
BNE»TPE»YYZ (destination)
YYZ»FRA»TXL (stop)
TXL»IST»SIN»BNE
All in J
Could also have booked TXL»CPH»SIN»BNE
All online FWIW. But not bookable online if you start/end in YYZ. Everything down there I have either booked from there, or was using USDM.
BNE»TPE»YYZ (destination)
YYZ»FRA»TXL (stop)
TXL»IST»SIN»BNE
All in J
Could also have booked TXL»CPH»SIN»BNE
All online FWIW. But not bookable online if you start/end in YYZ. Everything down there I have either booked from there, or was using USDM.
Aug 10, 2013, 2:09 pm
#1433
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: YTZ
Programs: Hertz & Avis PC; National EE; SPG & Hilton Gold; AC 35K (yawn)
Posts: 5,921
As well, to check LX routing, once I know it exists (by starting from YUL), I plug it into the system as from YTZ, which is good at routing on LX.
Aug 10, 2013, 2:23 pm
#1434
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,666
According to the online search:
SYD-ICN-ORD-YYZ is valid (OZ/OZ/UA)
SYD-SIN-NRT-YYZ not valid
SYD-SIN-TPE-YYZ not valid
Running through SIN and another Asian hub is where problems seem to happen.
So the only feasible options for my dates would now seem to be:
SYD-ICN-ORD-YYZ (OZ/OZ/UA)
BNE-SIN-TPE-YYZ (SQ/SQ/BR)
Got some thinking to do which I would prefer. 2 long hauls on OZ or 2 regionals on SQ and long haul on BR
SYD-ICN-ORD-YYZ is valid (OZ/OZ/UA)
SYD-SIN-NRT-YYZ not valid
SYD-SIN-TPE-YYZ not valid
Running through SIN and another Asian hub is where problems seem to happen.
So the only feasible options for my dates would now seem to be:
SYD-ICN-ORD-YYZ (OZ/OZ/UA)
BNE-SIN-TPE-YYZ (SQ/SQ/BR)
Got some thinking to do which I would prefer. 2 long hauls on OZ or 2 regionals on SQ and long haul on BR
Aug 10, 2013, 2:26 pm
#1435
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: YTZ
Programs: Hertz & Avis PC; National EE; SPG & Hilton Gold; AC 35K (yawn)
Posts: 5,921
So http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21249139-post1427.html doesn't work?
Aug 10, 2013, 2:46 pm
#1436
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,666
Guess I did repeat myself! Sorry to clutter up this read, but hopefully it will be useful for anyone who tries to pull off the coveted YYZ-SYD mini-RTW.
SYD-PEK-YYZ also works (but any connection via the US doesn't work). Moral of the story is that to route through Asia, finding a direct flight to/from the city you want to transit is vital.
SYD-PEK-YYZ also works (but any connection via the US doesn't work). Moral of the story is that to route through Asia, finding a direct flight to/from the city you want to transit is vital.
Aug 10, 2013, 2:49 pm
#1437
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YEG
Posts: 3,717
Can one fly to AKL from NA via europe+asia? Or is it only SYD|MEL|BNE that this works for...
Aug 10, 2013, 2:51 pm
#1438
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YEG
Posts: 3,717
Guess I did repeat myself! Sorry to clutter up this read, but hopefully it will be useful for anyone who tries to pull off the coveted YYZ-SYD mini-RTW.
SYD-PEK-YYZ also works (but any connection via the US doesn't work). Moral of the story is that to route through Asia, finding a direct flight to/from the city you want to transit is vital.
SYD-PEK-YYZ also works (but any connection via the US doesn't work). Moral of the story is that to route through Asia, finding a direct flight to/from the city you want to transit is vital.
Aug 10, 2013, 3:14 pm
#1439
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,666
Ran into problems with ORD-IST-SYD and JFK-IST-SYD (had no problems inputting YYZ-IST-SYD to get the YYZ-WAW-IST-SIN-SYD routing.)
But was able to do:
SYD-SIN-NRT-SEA-ORD without issue (SQ/NH/NH/UA)
Aug 10, 2013, 3:26 pm
#1440
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,666
Just got off the phone again:
PER-SIN-NRT-IAD-YYZ is valid! (SQ/NH/NH/UA). SIN-NRT is on the new 787, but IAD-YYZ is in Y. I think this routing is worth it to try out NH 787 and TPAC.
PER-SIN-NRT-IAD-YYZ is valid! (SQ/NH/NH/UA). SIN-NRT is on the new 787, but IAD-YYZ is in Y. I think this routing is worth it to try out NH 787 and TPAC.