Yul_voyager

By chance, do you know if it is valid because under MPM5 ? (which could be possible as PER is quite far from SYD and closer to SIN)

tng11

I would guess so, since it's definitely not a published routing (I've tried some other combos out of PER with an extra connection in ICN/PEK, and the online system accepts them.)

Is the MPM YYZ-SYD over Europe insanely high or what? The online system even allowed me to book:
YTZ-YUL-ZRH-DME-MUC-IST-SIN-SYD (AC/LX/LX/LH/LH/SQ/SQ)
YTZ-YUL-ZRH-DME-VIE-CPH-SIN-SYD (AC/LX/LX/OS/OS/SQ/SQ)
YYZ-CAI-DME-MUC-IST-SIN-SYD (MS/MS/LH/LH/SQ/SQ)

I actually would prefer to visit DME over IST, so it doesn't seem crazy to me. But having 7 segments to get to SYD would make my PER-YYZ routing more difficult.

EDIT:

Strangely enough, when I plug in YUL-DME-SYD, or even say YUL-ZRH-SYD, the system says its invalid. If I change YUL to YYZ/YTZ it can be booked online. I wonder why that is?

frudd38

Is us-Asia-Europe-Asia-us a valid routing?

Something like lax-tpe-bkk-ams-cdg-tpe-lax

Thanks

echino

No.

You can make it valid by losing one of the Asia stops, like this:

LAX-TPE-BKK-AMS-CDG-LAX

Pseudo Nim

Are you sure about that?

In principle, there should be nothing wrong with LAX-NRT-CDG-NRT-LAX, twice over the Pacific. The question is how many stops there are, what the MPM is, etc.

tng11

(Oops)

Pseudo Nim

Update: LAX-CDG is not allowed over the Pacific. No MPM is published. Only a published routing would work. This is not USDM

Just looked up published routings and only KE publishes TPAC routings for LAX-CDG.

NZ does, too, but it's LAX-LON-PAR.

So unfortunately, you're out of luck! As echino said, though, all you need to do is make it Asia1 destination and you'll be fine.

echino

Is there MPM for YVR-MOW via Pacific? I know CA has YVR-PEK-SVO published routing, but how about MPM?

Pseudo Nim

Nope - only AT is posted.

[edit] are you sure CA has a published routing? I am not seeing it.

frudd38

thanks for the update. so it should work if there's a published lax-euro city mpm?

let me clarify the stops/dest:

lax-asia(stop)-eur(dest)-asia(stop)-lax

OR

lax-asia(stop)-eur(stop)-eur(dest)-asia-lax

Pseudo Nim

Yes, it would work. Unfortunately, though, I couldn't find any carriers on LAX-CDG except KE, which is not *A. Maybe another city pair? Who knows - maybe NH serves SJC-CAI or something, haha

frudd38

Found lax-tpe-bkk-ams on br. This seems legit unless over mpm? What tool do you check mpm with?

conglomerate

Is YYZ-LHR; CPH-HKG; HKG-YYZ bookable with 125000 miles in J?

Thanks.

Pseudo Nim

It is not, because you are not allowed to open-jaw in the middle of the itinerary.

Something like YYZ-LHR, LHR-FRA-CPH, CPH-HKG, HKG-YYZ would be bookable, though. I.e., you must fly between LHR and CPH (and make a >24 hour stop there to avoid the APD for ex-LHR departures).

tng11

Tough decision to make:

For my YYZ-SYD mini RTW in April I´ve been debating whether to change my J award to an F award.

What would happen is I lose the connections in VIE/IST/SIN and no longer get to fly SQ long-haul, and route through FRA/BKK with TG F (A380 to FRA, 747 to SYD). I would then upgrade my NH segment from NRT-ORD in F.

Then, I would gamble on getting LH F to MUC through one of the US hubs where new F is available. It would also seem easy to switch FRA-BKK from TG F to LH F looking at the availability 2 weeks in advance (would get FCT usage!).

So the question is: is it going to be worth many hundreds more in scamcharges plus 50K points to move from SQ J (both flights with the new lie flats) to TG F for 1/2 flights, NH F for 1 flight (and possibly LH F 1/2 times). Plus it would cost me 2/3 change fees to move the flights around (once to the current itin, once for YYZ-FRA, once for FRA-BKK)