Mini RTW Questions
Aug 5, 2013, 8:17 pm
#1336
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: PHX
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So it looks like YEG-FCO is 6457 and YEG-CPH is 6073 for MPM+5 based on expertflyer..
how can I even make this possible? Based on YEG-ORD-AMS-CPH-FCO, one of the most direct routes I can take, GCMAP says 6888, which is 431 miles above YEG-FCO MPM...
Since YEG-SFO-LHR is published on UA(so is YEG-ORD-AMS and YEG-ORD-BRU), would they only count YEG-LHR/YEG-AMS/YEG-BRU and not the connection since I'm not forcing the connection and it is scheduled?
Any thoughts? Is Europe rules different for Aeroplan(only redeemed for Asia MPM)? Would like to know as it seems like a 3 stopover Europe trip will always go over MPM from YEG...
how can I even make this possible? Based on YEG-ORD-AMS-CPH-FCO, one of the most direct routes I can take, GCMAP says 6888, which is 431 miles above YEG-FCO MPM...
Since YEG-SFO-LHR is published on UA(so is YEG-ORD-AMS and YEG-ORD-BRU), would they only count YEG-LHR/YEG-AMS/YEG-BRU and not the connection since I'm not forcing the connection and it is scheduled?
Any thoughts? Is Europe rules different for Aeroplan(only redeemed for Asia MPM)? Would like to know as it seems like a 3 stopover Europe trip will always go over MPM from YEG...
Last edited by SKYEG; Aug 5, 2013 at 9:17 pm
Aug 6, 2013, 7:52 am
#1337
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Calgary
Programs: A Few
Posts: 2,339
Correct. No award zone or cabin change means the award doesn't need to be exchanged for the new higher award mileage level. These were the rules that AE applied after the last mileage increase.
Aug 6, 2013, 8:23 am
#1338
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the air
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Very interesting. I thought it was no cabin change only. Crap - I missed out, then, as I didn't bother booking because I knew it'd be a waste of a change fee to just have it refunded ... but I guess not, eh. Thanks - good to know!
Aug 6, 2013, 10:08 am
#1339
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YEG
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Aug 6, 2013, 10:09 am
#1340
formerly mattking2000
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: DXB
Programs: BA|AC|AZ|SPG|H|FPC
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I don't know what I'm more impressed by - the fact that it's even published or the fact that there are SO many flights into it. I thought everyone just took the ferry...
Code:
YTOMFM-YY 05AUG13
TICKETED POINT SURCHARGES APPLY.
GI M 5M 10M 15M 20M 25M
MPM AT 12241 12853 13465 14077 14689 15301
MPM PA 9385 9854 10323 10792 11262 11731
Aug 6, 2013, 10:10 am
#1341
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This I've always wondered. I would suspect the rest has to fit into MPM5 HNL-YYZ, but this seems awfully idealistic and naive of me.
Aug 6, 2013, 10:15 am
#1342
formerly mattking2000
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I'll call the centre and try to wrangle the answer out of an unsuspecting agent. Be back in a few hours, hopefully!
Aug 6, 2013, 10:22 am
#1343
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Aug 6, 2013, 12:07 pm
#1344
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC E50K (*Gold), DL, CZ
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Hi All, I'm trying to build the following trip for next summer:
YYZ-SIN (or HKT)-IST-YYZ
Can I tack on 1 of the bolded city pairings below by calling the Aeroplan booking centre?
YYZ-SIN/HKT (stop for 2 weeks)
SIN/HKT-TPE/HKG (stop for 1 week)
TPE-HKG-IST (stop for 1 week)
IST-FRA/CDG (stop for several days)
IST (or FRA/CDG)-YYZ , if successful here
I have no preference towards specific carriers or routings. Either additional stop in Asia 1 or Europe 1 is fine.
I've done a similar itinerary before (YYZ-YUL-CDG-PVG-SIN-IST-YYZ, but that was simple, and only featured long-ish transits as opposed to a full stop.
Thanks for any assistance you can provide.
YYZ-SIN (or HKT)-IST-YYZ
Can I tack on 1 of the bolded city pairings below by calling the Aeroplan booking centre?
YYZ-SIN/HKT (stop for 2 weeks)
SIN/HKT-TPE/HKG (stop for 1 week)
TPE-HKG-IST (stop for 1 week)
IST-FRA/CDG (stop for several days)
IST (or FRA/CDG)-YYZ , if successful here
I have no preference towards specific carriers or routings. Either additional stop in Asia 1 or Europe 1 is fine.
I've done a similar itinerary before (YYZ-YUL-CDG-PVG-SIN-IST-YYZ, but that was simple, and only featured long-ish transits as opposed to a full stop.
Thanks for any assistance you can provide.
Aug 6, 2013, 12:15 pm
#1345
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: YVR
Programs: AC: E50K, AP: dDiamond
Posts: 963
No guarantees as to availability but the following would be a nice route and is definitely legal in terms of mileage:
YYZ-TPE (Eva)
TPE-SIN (Singapore) (stop)
SIN-IST (Turkish/Singapore) (stop)
IST-CDG (Turkish) (stop)
CDG-WAW (LOT)
WAW-YYZ (LOT 787)
YYZ-TPE (Eva)
TPE-SIN (Singapore) (stop)
SIN-IST (Turkish/Singapore) (stop)
IST-CDG (Turkish) (stop)
CDG-WAW (LOT)
WAW-YYZ (LOT 787)
Last edited by lowside67; Aug 6, 2013 at 12:21 pm
Aug 6, 2013, 12:18 pm
#1346
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Just be careful that CDG-YYZ would be *very* expensive because of AC scamcharges. On the other hand, your only alternative would be CDG-ZRH-YUL-YYZ, and that may simply not be worth the time. Or US transit - which is even less so. So scamcharges it is!!
Aug 6, 2013, 12:21 pm
#1347
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: YYZ
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Thanks for the suggestion. I will call in over the next few days and feed the agent each segment and see how that goes. I figured as long as there is no back-tracking, either add-on would definitely satisfy the mpm.
You are right; from my searches, I've seen excellent BR availability, lots of TKs, even ANA 788s. Heck, I even caught sight of TK's operated by 9W somewhere (might have been out of KUL or BKK).
*** yeah, this far out, many AC-operated flights out of LHR, CDG, FRA, and MUC. In fact, anything TATL is only AC or LH from my searches. I suppose I can reverse the trip and go towards Europe 1 + IST first, before heading to the Far East. There are plenty of good TPAC routings now (BR from TPE-YYZ, or ANA from NRT-ORD-YYZ), but the last leg is flown by, yup... AC.
You are right; from my searches, I've seen excellent BR availability, lots of TKs, even ANA 788s. Heck, I even caught sight of TK's operated by 9W somewhere (might have been out of KUL or BKK).
*** yeah, this far out, many AC-operated flights out of LHR, CDG, FRA, and MUC. In fact, anything TATL is only AC or LH from my searches. I suppose I can reverse the trip and go towards Europe 1 + IST first, before heading to the Far East. There are plenty of good TPAC routings now (BR from TPE-YYZ, or ANA from NRT-ORD-YYZ), but the last leg is flown by, yup... AC.
Last edited by yqtyyz; Aug 6, 2013 at 12:25 pm Reason: Additional Sentence
Aug 6, 2013, 12:29 pm
#1348
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: YVR
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I have updated my post with a suggestion for connection... LOT has some charges but they are pretty reasonable and it's way fewer connections than via Swiss to get back to YYZ.
Aug 6, 2013, 12:37 pm
#1349
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: YVR
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Posts: 1,820
Hi All, I'm trying to build the following trip for next summer:
YYZ-SIN (or HKT)-IST-YYZ
Can I tack on 1 of the bolded city pairings below by calling the Aeroplan booking centre?
YYZ-SIN/HKT (stop for 2 weeks)
SIN/HKT-TPE/HKG (stop for 1 week)
TPE-HKG-IST (stop for 1 week)
IST-FRA/CDG (stop for several days)
IST (or FRA/CDG)-YYZ , if successful here
YYZ-SIN (or HKT)-IST-YYZ
Can I tack on 1 of the bolded city pairings below by calling the Aeroplan booking centre?
YYZ-SIN/HKT (stop for 2 weeks)
SIN/HKT-TPE/HKG (stop for 1 week)
TPE-HKG-IST (stop for 1 week)
IST-FRA/CDG (stop for several days)
IST (or FRA/CDG)-YYZ , if successful here
Aug 6, 2013, 1:25 pm
#1350
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the air
Programs: Occasional RTW club
Posts: 6,925
Thanks for the suggestion. I will call in over the next few days and feed the agent each segment and see how that goes. I figured as long as there is no back-tracking, either add-on would definitely satisfy the mpm.
You are right; from my searches, I've seen excellent BR availability, lots of TKs, even ANA 788s. Heck, I even caught sight of TK's operated by 9W somewhere (might have been out of KUL or BKK).
*** yeah, this far out, many AC-operated flights out of LHR, CDG, FRA, and MUC. In fact, anything TATL is only AC or LH from my searches. I suppose I can reverse the trip and go towards Europe 1 + IST first, before heading to the Far East. There are plenty of good TPAC routings now (BR from TPE-YYZ, or ANA from NRT-ORD-YYZ), but the last leg is flown by, yup... AC.
You are right; from my searches, I've seen excellent BR availability, lots of TKs, even ANA 788s. Heck, I even caught sight of TK's operated by 9W somewhere (might have been out of KUL or BKK).
*** yeah, this far out, many AC-operated flights out of LHR, CDG, FRA, and MUC. In fact, anything TATL is only AC or LH from my searches. I suppose I can reverse the trip and go towards Europe 1 + IST first, before heading to the Far East. There are plenty of good TPAC routings now (BR from TPE-YYZ, or ANA from NRT-ORD-YYZ), but the last leg is flown by, yup... AC.
ack I keep forgetting LO.