ChrisA330

Not sure about via BKK, via Europe/SIN to AKL is a no go. In that case the point of turnaround, used for MPM calculations is SIN, not AKL, and there are no routing rules getting you from SIN back to North American via AKL. You need a stop in Australia to make it work.

tng11

Just looked up the MPM for AKL via the Pacific: 10424. Wow - that's incredibly stingy! There's no MPM available via Europe unlike SYD.

Looks like you'll have to follow a published routing - all of which involve the West Coast. There's also a SQ one, via SFO/LAX, HKG/NRT, SIN.

Pseudo Nim

Destination of that trip was OKJ, so this was on the way back. Normally, they do not allow open jaws at anything other than destination. There was a stop in VKO for more than 24 hours, and the onwards departure was from DME. Per their own rules, if this was not a co-terminal, this would not have been allowed, as this would have counted as an open jaw.

This is absolutely bizarre. They need a geography lesson. Wth.

sp4294

You will have a hard time with AKL unless you can go through BKK or SIN and like to travel in Y. And good luck finding published SQ in J from the west coast to SIN on AE. Go to SYD or MEL and tag on the flights across the Tasman. That gives you much more freedom. HNL and RAR are basically impossible from west coast.

sp4294

Could it be that not many have done this? LH and TK fly to VKO so this doesn't make sense except for the possibility that they have not come across this scenario sufficiently to write it up in their manuals.

flyertalker00156

I am trying to plan a trip on J for next summer to Europe from YUL. I would like to head to Vienna, paris nice and maybe croatia. I am travelling from YUL. Can anyone help with routing. I know i can only have 2 stops so i was thinking of stopping in croatia and nice and then doing a side trip to paris? Alsoprefabbly not on AC metal

Thanks

Alex

hearna

Ok so lets say one will not execute the Mini RTW; but instead go for a longer path; I imagine going TATL on both legs is allowed?


If so; what options would I have to complete this;

YOW-YUL-ZRH(S)-SIN-MEL(D)-ASIA(S)-EUROPE-YOW

Does anyone think that something such as

MEL-AKL(lol)-NRT-IST(?)-YYZ-YOW would work?

Other ideas?

What is the MPM5 for yow-mel?

How much (if any) backtracking is allowed?

Is it absolutely imperative to connect via SIN on the return as well for it to be a published routing?

I was also looking at doing a ZRH-LON on a separate ticket to avoid the passenger levies and YQ...

I did not want to start stacking extra tickets everywhere and have something go wrong and be screwed out of vacation time or paid tickets.

BMGfan

Just wondering if this is possible, or if I'll pay the $90? Thanks

Pseudo Nim

This is possible. However, SVO is pretty widely served... So I'm surprised they've never see anyone arrive into SCO and depart DME. Or maybe they have, and maybe those work fine as co-terminals? That'd be even more comical.

If it's JUST a cabin switch, no fees incurred.

BMGfan

Excellent thanks

arcticbull

SVO, DME and VKO are in fact co-terminals as far as I know -- they all fall under IATA metropolitan area code MOW (http://wikitravel.org/en/Metropolita..._Airport_Codes)

Pseudo Nim

Yep, that's what I was saying too. But it seems Aeroplan agents are ... confused, so to say. :P

rankourabu

however, scamcharges and taxes get recalculated, no?

And neither of those two things ever go down unless its currency exchange

Pseudo Nim

This one is tricky. Officially, they do, and the ticket does get re-issued. But in my experience, I have never been charged anything for the upgrade.

Of course, that said, it's not like I would complain if I were, because at that moment, you're just euphoric you got a business seat. But I'm just sayin'.

tng11

I've read around that if the change is made after travel has started, YQ is not recalculated? Does that still hold true?

LH F for FRA-YYZ would open up only after I've started travel - and the YQ difference between Y/F is $200+ so it'd be nice to save that