Mini RTW Questions
Sep 15, 2013, 1:51 pm
#1546
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Sep 15, 2013, 2:21 pm
#1547
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On another note:
Are co-terminals in foreign destinations not allowed?
Yesterday, I tried unsuccessfully to get them to let me change my ticket to arrive in DME and leave from VKO. I tried with 3 agents - all said the system wouldn't let them, considering I already have an open jaw. Today I called in again to pretend that a previous agent had forgotten the change in a mess as I changed 6 flights yesterday (yesterday's changes haven't been ticketed) and I got the same response again.
Today I heard a super-creative excuse - co-terminals in foreign destinations are not allowed? I'd find it absurd if they wouldn't allow HND/NRT on the same ticket.
Are co-terminals in foreign destinations not allowed?
Yesterday, I tried unsuccessfully to get them to let me change my ticket to arrive in DME and leave from VKO. I tried with 3 agents - all said the system wouldn't let them, considering I already have an open jaw. Today I called in again to pretend that a previous agent had forgotten the change in a mess as I changed 6 flights yesterday (yesterday's changes haven't been ticketed) and I got the same response again.
Today I heard a super-creative excuse - co-terminals in foreign destinations are not allowed? I'd find it absurd if they wouldn't allow HND/NRT on the same ticket.
Sep 15, 2013, 2:29 pm
#1548
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Ugh, I thought so.
Can't believe I got dinged by 4 agents and a supervisor after spending more than 2 hours on the phone. I gave up fighting since the only thing I was trying to do was leave Moscow 2 hours later, since currently I'm leaving at the inhumane time of 7:05 am
Can't believe I got dinged by 4 agents and a supervisor after spending more than 2 hours on the phone. I gave up fighting since the only thing I was trying to do was leave Moscow 2 hours later, since currently I'm leaving at the inhumane time of 7:05 am
Sep 15, 2013, 2:39 pm
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Sep 15, 2013, 2:50 pm
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Another idea that I am not opposed to would be something like
YOW-YUL-ZRH(S)-SIN-MEL(D)-AKL-HNL-YVR-YOW
Would a stop in AKL or HNL work? This routing MUST be under MPM....
Sep 15, 2013, 5:57 pm
#1551
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Yes, but there is absolutely zero Air NZ availability atm for AKL-HNL. They blanked it all out labor day weekend and it has not returned. It is also hard to get SQ awards into SIN. I was thinking of doing YOW->EWR->FRA->BKK->SYD (stop) (open jaw) AKL->HNL (stop)->YOW but cant now due to the lack of reward availability.
Sep 15, 2013, 6:10 pm
#1552
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Co-terminals in foreign destinations are definitely allowed. I think I remember hearing people booking DME-VKO pairs, but couldn't swear by it.
Sep 15, 2013, 6:13 pm
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Sep 15, 2013, 6:28 pm
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Ok, so if there is no ANZ towards North America (Including Hawaii);
If I cannot involve AKL or NRT; is my only other recourse 2x via Atlantic?
YOW-YUL-ZRH(S)-SIN-MEL(S)-SIN-NRT(S)-Europe-NA?
Or does this become illegal because of the 2x SIN?
If so what are my options for LOW or NO YQ back?
As a side note; AFAIK UA does not fly too New Zealand?
They seem to just fly from SYD-SFO/LAX (with an extension flight tagged on to MEL?)
Its great that *A members make access to awards so damn difficult!
If I cannot involve AKL or NRT; is my only other recourse 2x via Atlantic?
YOW-YUL-ZRH(S)-SIN-MEL(S)-SIN-NRT(S)-Europe-NA?
Or does this become illegal because of the 2x SIN?
If so what are my options for LOW or NO YQ back?
As a side note; AFAIK UA does not fly too New Zealand?
They seem to just fly from SYD-SFO/LAX (with an extension flight tagged on to MEL?)
Its great that *A members make access to awards so damn difficult!
Sep 15, 2013, 6:40 pm
#1555
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Ok, so if there is no ANZ towards North America (Including Hawaii);
If I cannot involve AKL or NRT; is my only other recourse 2x via Atlantic?
YOW-YUL-ZRH(S)-SIN-MEL(S)-SIN-NRT(S)-Europe-NA?
Or does this become illegal because of the 2x SIN?
If so what are my options for LOW or NO YQ back?
As a side note; AFAIK UA does not fly too New Zealand?
They seem to just fly from SYD-SFO/LAX (with an extension flight tagged on to MEL?)
Its great that *A members make access to awards so damn difficult!
If I cannot involve AKL or NRT; is my only other recourse 2x via Atlantic?
YOW-YUL-ZRH(S)-SIN-MEL(S)-SIN-NRT(S)-Europe-NA?
Or does this become illegal because of the 2x SIN?
If so what are my options for LOW or NO YQ back?
As a side note; AFAIK UA does not fly too New Zealand?
They seem to just fly from SYD-SFO/LAX (with an extension flight tagged on to MEL?)
Its great that *A members make access to awards so damn difficult!
Sep 15, 2013, 8:29 pm
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Sep 15, 2013, 8:29 pm
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Tried calling in again to complain - again no dice. I was told by the supervisor that VKO and DME are ABSOLUTELY NOT co-terminals and that I have no recourse to complain because that's the way it is 
Sep 15, 2013, 8:30 pm
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Quick question, lets say I book two award tix on a flight, one in economy and one in biz as part of a larger biz class mini-rtw. I'm fairly confident that a second biz class seat will open up because I've been watching award space patterns for the last weeks. Can I change the economy spot to biz without paying the $90? I know the scamcharges will go up for sure, but will I have to pay the change fee?
Sep 15, 2013, 8:35 pm
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SQ actually has decent availability AKL-SIN.
NZ also has good availability AKL-NRT and AKL-PVG. Forget about availability to North America.
AKL seems to be a whole different game than SYD. For instance, I've punched YYZ-DME-SYD on the online engine and it gives me a valid result, but if I try routing to AKL via Europe, I'm told it can't be booked on one reward.
NZ also has good availability AKL-NRT and AKL-PVG. Forget about availability to North America.
AKL seems to be a whole different game than SYD. For instance, I've punched YYZ-DME-SYD on the online engine and it gives me a valid result, but if I try routing to AKL via Europe, I'm told it can't be booked on one reward.