Last edit by: NewbieRunner
Update 08APR2014: Star Alliance Awards must have been booked by March 30, 2014. They are no longer available through US. This thread is mostly useful for historic purposes, and discussing issues such as schedule changes/route changes that affect FTers existing *A awards booked before 3/31/2014.
Discussion on using US miles to book oneworld awards is available here.
If you are looking for discussion on US's new partner awards that use various partners not in oneworld (many of whom are former *A partners), see the devoted thread on using US miles to book NON-oneworld partners here.
------------------------
Update 07JAN14: American Airlines award tickets bookable online on usairways.com or through reservation.
Please see the devoted thread on using US miles to book AA here.
Discussion on using US miles to book oneworld awards is available here.
If you are looking for discussion on US's new partner awards that use various partners not in oneworld (many of whom are former *A partners), see the devoted thread on using US miles to book NON-oneworld partners here.
------------------------
Update 07JAN14: American Airlines award tickets bookable online on usairways.com or through reservation.
- Award travel must be wholly on American Airlines or a combination of American Airlines and US Airways.
- American Airlines awards cannot be combined with any of our current partner.
- American Airlines award travel chart (PDF)
Please see the devoted thread on using US miles to book AA here.
Star Alliance Award Bookings Using US Airways Miles - FAQ and Help Thread [MERGED]
Join Date: May 2007
Location: variously: PVG, SFO, LHR
Programs: AA ExPlat, UA 1MM Gold, Hyatt Glob, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat, HH Gold
Posts: 1,678
* Is there a 4 segment maximum of for both the outbound and the return or is it 8 segments overall?
* Would routing through SIN on the way back to HKG indeed cause this to price at 120k miles instead of 90k miles? Not quite sure how to interpret the quoted statement in this context: "Mileage is charged based on the most "expensive" transited region". Realize i may be pushing my luck a bit with this routing...
Thanks for your advice :-)
* Would routing through SIN on the way back to HKG indeed cause this to price at 120k miles instead of 90k miles? Not quite sure how to interpret the quoted statement in this context: "Mileage is charged based on the most "expensive" transited region". Realize i may be pushing my luck a bit with this routing...
Thanks for your advice :-)
Absent evidence to the contrary, it seems that my and rayoflight's experience suggest that there has been a policy change to only 8 segments allowed on an award ticket.
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Programs: Flying: VA; Buying: AA, AS, AV, BA, UA!
Posts: 2,349
8 segments max as a rule (and 4 in each direction) has been around for a long time now...but sometimes the agent or ticketing desk will let through exceptions.
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: AU
Programs: former Olympic Airways Gold (yeah - still proud of that!)
Posts: 14,406
exceptions particularly if you CAN'T reach your destination in 4 segments (maybe due to domestic connections in USA for example). I know Tommyleo has also had success with more segments, but he does have status on US.
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: BRU
Programs: A3 *G, BA Silver
Posts: 170
Just booked:
BRU-ZRH-PVG-AKL (LX C/LX C on A340/NZ C on 777) stopover
AKL-SYD (NZ C on 777) destination
SYD-BKK (TG C on 747-400) one night in Bangkok (<24 hour)
BKK-HKG-FRA-BRU (TG C on A330/LH C on 747-400/LH C)
120K miles and 200 EUR in taxes.
Not the most direct routing, but this was not an issue.
6 hour layover in PVG & HKG
Not sure about the quality of the seats on the TG C and LH C long distance flights. LX C and NZ C should be pretty ok..
I didn't try to go over the 8 segment limit..
BRU-ZRH-PVG-AKL (LX C/LX C on A340/NZ C on 777) stopover
AKL-SYD (NZ C on 777) destination
SYD-BKK (TG C on 747-400) one night in Bangkok (<24 hour)
BKK-HKG-FRA-BRU (TG C on A330/LH C on 747-400/LH C)
120K miles and 200 EUR in taxes.
Not the most direct routing, but this was not an issue.
6 hour layover in PVG & HKG
Not sure about the quality of the seats on the TG C and LH C long distance flights. LX C and NZ C should be pretty ok..
I didn't try to go over the 8 segment limit..
Last edited by fets_be; Aug 2, 2012 at 8:35 am Reason: (8 segment limit comment added)
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: NYC
Posts: 945
have 4 legs for my parents on swiss in F (booked while still available)....just noticed that on their feeder flight a C class opened up (AC lga-yul, currently booked on AC ewr-yul in Y) ....
i know that this is a very open ended questions...but what is a likely hood that a reservations agent will screw up a reservation and drop the LX F segments..have a feeling that the seats will be impossible to get once that happens...i have read some horrible stories on here...the trip is in few days
any tips on how to avoid that? use of correct vocabulary when instructing agents?..
i know that this is a very open ended questions...but what is a likely hood that a reservations agent will screw up a reservation and drop the LX F segments..have a feeling that the seats will be impossible to get once that happens...i have read some horrible stories on here...the trip is in few days
any tips on how to avoid that? use of correct vocabulary when instructing agents?..
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: AU
Programs: former Olympic Airways Gold (yeah - still proud of that!)
Posts: 14,406
have 4 legs for my parents on swiss in F (booked while still available)....just noticed that on their feeder flight a C class opened up (AC lga-yul, currently booked on AC ewr-yul in Y) ....
i know that this is a very open ended questions...but what is a likely hood that a reservations agent will screw up a reservation and drop the LX F segments..have a feeling that the seats will be impossible to get once that happens...i have read some horrible stories on here...the trip is in few days
any tips on how to avoid that? use of correct vocabulary when instructing agents?..
i know that this is a very open ended questions...but what is a likely hood that a reservations agent will screw up a reservation and drop the LX F segments..have a feeling that the seats will be impossible to get once that happens...i have read some horrible stories on here...the trip is in few days
any tips on how to avoid that? use of correct vocabulary when instructing agents?..
Join Date: Oct 2009
Programs: LH FTL,Hyatt Platinum,BMI Silver
Posts: 50
Well, what do you think, is it still worth it to buy Dividend Miles? It used to be much more attractive in the past..We have already reached a level of 1750,-bucks by using one of the hundered percent bonus promotions to buy 100k miles. It used to be cheaper in the past. And they used to have more available connections in C- and F-class as well. Nowadays you must be satisfied when you get one available connection in premium cabin and you often cannot be that exigent or demanding anymore. In the meantime it has become very difficult to get seats in premium cabin for LH and LX. I was told that a filter software apparently has been introduced by US. I am interested in your opinon. Concerning SQ- bookings it is currently not forseeable, if SQ will ever reopen their award inventory and offer some award seats in the future (apart from some regional flights and services in A-333 or B-772 eqipment).
I was told that this wont happen in the next 12 month or so... And my other question is, as far as I have read and understood the T+C, for a journey from the US to Asia, I still have the choice, weather to fly eastbound or westbound, right? That means that one stopover in Europe can still be made at anytime with no additional costs or any trouble. And does it still depend on the agent, how strict they are , concerning the rule of the selection of the "most direct route" ? I mean for me US DM remains one option for travel among many others....
I was told that this wont happen in the next 12 month or so... And my other question is, as far as I have read and understood the T+C, for a journey from the US to Asia, I still have the choice, weather to fly eastbound or westbound, right? That means that one stopover in Europe can still be made at anytime with no additional costs or any trouble. And does it still depend on the agent, how strict they are , concerning the rule of the selection of the "most direct route" ? I mean for me US DM remains one option for travel among many others....
Join Date: Oct 2009
Programs: LH FTL,Hyatt Platinum,BMI Silver
Posts: 50
I think Russia now belongs entirely to Europe in the US-DM award chart?
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: ZRH
Programs: M&M SEN (*G), HH Diamond
Posts: 2,418
Join Date: Oct 2009
Programs: LH FTL,Hyatt Platinum,BMI Silver
Posts: 50
Well, it is a question as I couldn´t find it listed in the award chart. However, my feeling says that it belongs to Europe and the good old days are definitely over...
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: ZRH
Programs: M&M SEN (*G), HH Diamond
Posts: 2,418
Russia was moved from North Asia to Europe, yes.
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Stuttgart, Germany
Programs: Marriott Titanium Elite for Life, AA Platinum, United Gold
Posts: 23
I just booked US with Star*. I was on the phone for maybe 20 minutes and the agent basically asked me where I wanted to go. So I took IAD-BRU-Tel Aviv. I am taking a 9 day stop over in BRU where I will spend 2 nights. Head over to London for a few days and maybe Malta. I then fly to Israel on SN and home on SN/UA. SN is sort of sucky for business class, but for 120k each for myself and my daughter plus $300 in taxes and fees is a pretty good deal. I was short 32k miles so I used the new US promotion and topped up my miles for $600. Business on UA will be very nice - I just flew a UA 777 from BRU-IAD on a business trip and sat facing the rear. It was a pretty nice.
Since I am also Marriott Platinum. I used the Marriott travel package and get one free week of hotel. I am using that in Tel Aviv where the rates are about $315 US per night. Overall I think I got a pretty sweet deal. I did a quick price check on UA and it looks like the seats would have cost me 4k each. I get to visit my fave city in Europe (BRU) and eat the five main food groups; chocolate, beer, frites, waffles and mussels! I can't wait!
Since I am also Marriott Platinum. I used the Marriott travel package and get one free week of hotel. I am using that in Tel Aviv where the rates are about $315 US per night. Overall I think I got a pretty sweet deal. I did a quick price check on UA and it looks like the seats would have cost me 4k each. I get to visit my fave city in Europe (BRU) and eat the five main food groups; chocolate, beer, frites, waffles and mussels! I can't wait!
Join Date: May 2009
Location: DCA
Programs: US Chairman, Marriott Platinum, PCR Platinum, and SPG Gold
Posts: 1,244
I just booked US with Star*. I was on the phone for maybe 20 minutes and the agent basically asked me where I wanted to go. So I took IAD-BRU-Tel Aviv. I am taking a 9 day stop over in BRU where I will spend 2 nights. Head over to London for a few days and maybe Malta. I then fly to Israel on SN and home on SN/UA. SN is sort of sucky for business class, but for 120k each for myself and my daughter plus $300 in taxes and fees is a pretty good deal. I was short 32k miles so I used the new US promotion and topped up my miles for $600. Business on UA will be very nice - I just flew a UA 777 from BRU-IAD on a business trip and sat facing the rear. It was a pretty nice.
Since I am also Marriott Platinum. I used the Marriott travel package and get one free week of hotel. I am using that in Tel Aviv where the rates are about $315 US per night. Overall I think I got a pretty sweet deal. I did a quick price check on UA and it looks like the seats would have cost me 4k each. I get to visit my fave city in Europe (BRU) and eat the five main food groups; chocolate, beer, frites, waffles and mussels! I can't wait!
Since I am also Marriott Platinum. I used the Marriott travel package and get one free week of hotel. I am using that in Tel Aviv where the rates are about $315 US per night. Overall I think I got a pretty sweet deal. I did a quick price check on UA and it looks like the seats would have cost me 4k each. I get to visit my fave city in Europe (BRU) and eat the five main food groups; chocolate, beer, frites, waffles and mussels! I can't wait!
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NUE
Programs: Skywards Gold, IC Ambassador, SPG Gold, Hilton Gold, Accor Platinum
Posts: 495
I am looking for some nice flights for early next year from Europe to Japan.
Can somebody please let me know if the following routing is possible and how many miles it would cost in F?
NUE-FRA-BKK-KIX - all on TG except NUE-FRA is on LH - no stopover
NRT-BKK-CDG-FRA-NUE - all on TG except CDG-FRA-NUE on LH - no stopover
Thanks!
Can somebody please let me know if the following routing is possible and how many miles it would cost in F?
NUE-FRA-BKK-KIX - all on TG except NUE-FRA is on LH - no stopover
NRT-BKK-CDG-FRA-NUE - all on TG except CDG-FRA-NUE on LH - no stopover
Thanks!
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: DCA
Programs: US Silver, UA Plat, HHonors Diamond, SPG Gold
Posts: 212
have 4 legs for my parents on swiss in F (booked while still available)....just noticed that on their feeder flight a C class opened up (AC lga-yul, currently booked on AC ewr-yul in Y) ....
i know that this is a very open ended questions...but what is a likely hood that a reservations agent will screw up a reservation and drop the LX F segments..have a feeling that the seats will be impossible to get once that happens...i have read some horrible stories on here...the trip is in few days
any tips on how to avoid that? use of correct vocabulary when instructing agents?..
i know that this is a very open ended questions...but what is a likely hood that a reservations agent will screw up a reservation and drop the LX F segments..have a feeling that the seats will be impossible to get once that happens...i have read some horrible stories on here...the trip is in few days
any tips on how to avoid that? use of correct vocabulary when instructing agents?..