Oct 22, 2018, 3:44 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion
This will be a discussion thread, for discussing the needed qualifications and timing of notification.
For posing formal notifications (but no discussion), use this thread Global Services 2019 Notifications (ONLY)
2019 GS Timeline
First requal notifications came out on 6 Dec 2018
First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
For discussion of GS benefits, please use Consolidated Global Services Thread: Benefits, Questions 2018First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
For 2017 qualifications, see the 2017 thread and for 2018, see the 2018 thread
To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to
MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.
Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.
Definitions
BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.
The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.
Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using
PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS
Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.
As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.
One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.
rwsteelers had a good method for determining UA BIS -- the change in Lifetime Miles from the first of the year.
Hello:
To help with collection of qualification metrics for global services, I created a Google Doc. This will be useful for future members. For ease of use, I created a form which feeds into a spreadsheet. The spreadsheet and form does not require a google account and is free to use.
Similar spreadsheets were created in years past, so I'm hoping to continue this tradition. Please take the time to enter your stats into the spreadsheet. Many thanks
LINK to entry form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SYm...xRKZ_EUD8/edit
View responses here ( read only ):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
To help with collection of qualification metrics for global services, I created a Google Doc. This will be useful for future members. For ease of use, I created a form which feeds into a spreadsheet. The spreadsheet and form does not require a google account and is free to use.
Similar spreadsheets were created in years past, so I'm hoping to continue this tradition. Please take the time to enter your stats into the spreadsheet. Many thanks
LINK to entry form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SYm...xRKZ_EUD8/edit
View responses here ( read only ):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion / Questions
Dec 8, 2018, 3:56 pm
#436
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SF (formerly of IND)
Programs: UA GS, Alaska MVP 50, Marriott 100 night, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 64
Hoping to get GS this year. Had it 5 years ago.
SFO based.
BIS 150k (300k PQM). All business class miles. 95% international.
$75k spend on United metal. $135k in last 3 yrs.
would have had another $4k Miles had United not cancelled my flight out of Singapore yesterday (switched to Sing Air).
What are my chances?
SFO based.
BIS 150k (300k PQM). All business class miles. 95% international.
$75k spend on United metal. $135k in last 3 yrs.
would have had another $4k Miles had United not cancelled my flight out of Singapore yesterday (switched to Sing Air).
What are my chances?
Dec 8, 2018, 4:10 pm
#437
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: SFO / LHR
Programs: UA GS 2.2MM / UC / AS Gold 75K / Bonvoy Plat / Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,028
Hoping to get GS this year. Had it 5 years ago.
SFO based.
BIS 150k (300k PQM). All business class miles. 95% international.
$75k spend on United metal. $135k in last 3 yrs.
would have had another $4k Miles had United not cancelled my flight out of Singapore yesterday (switched to Sing Air).
What are my chances?
SFO based.
BIS 150k (300k PQM). All business class miles. 95% international.
$75k spend on United metal. $135k in last 3 yrs.
would have had another $4k Miles had United not cancelled my flight out of Singapore yesterday (switched to Sing Air).
What are my chances?
Dec 8, 2018, 7:02 pm
#438
Join Date: Oct 2017
Programs: Mileage Plus, Global Services
Posts: 22
Just checked the new site and saw "Congratulations, we’re pleased to invite you to United Global Services for 2019."
PQM: ~340k (assuming 170k BIS..)
PQD: ~$63k
Out of SFO
This is a requalification, overall my 9th year being GS (but with some gaps throughout the years)
PQM: ~340k (assuming 170k BIS..)
PQD: ~$63k
Out of SFO
This is a requalification, overall my 9th year being GS (but with some gaps throughout the years)
Last edited by gilbnx; Dec 8, 2018 at 7:55 pm
Dec 8, 2018, 7:57 pm
#439
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: LBB
Programs: UA 1K 1MM ★G | Marriott LTT | Hilton ♦ | Hertz PC | Global Entry TSA Pre ✓
Posts: 2,820
Dec 8, 2018, 8:55 pm
#440
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SF (formerly of IND)
Programs: UA GS, Alaska MVP 50, Marriott 100 night, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 64
Dec 8, 2018, 9:07 pm
#441
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 4
When do new qual messages normally go out?
I've not been GS before but am at approx 90k PQD, (90% UA metal) this year so I'm thinking I have a good shot. Last year wasn't anything amazing (Gold status), so that doesn't help.
When do they generally notify new members for first time qualifications ?
thanks.
When do they generally notify new members for first time qualifications ?
thanks.
Dec 8, 2018, 11:06 pm
#442
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.995MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,857
Dec 9, 2018, 1:30 am
#443
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London
Programs: UA GS
Posts: 2,438
Even if ORC were possible, at $75k PQD it wouldn’t be necessary. Furthermore ORC is not helpful to GS qualification. A person in the GS group (corporate, not an agent) told me their data pull isn’t sophisticated enough to see ORC credits as United metal. But, in an appeal, you could mention it and it could be considered.
Dec 9, 2018, 9:26 am
#444
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: LBB
Programs: UA 1K 1MM ★G | Marriott LTT | Hilton ♦ | Hertz PC | Global Entry TSA Pre ✓
Posts: 2,820
Even if ORC were possible, at $75k PQD it wouldn’t be necessary. Furthermore ORC is not helpful to GS qualification. A person in the GS group (corporate, not an agent) told me their data pull isn’t sophisticated enough to see ORC credits as United metal. But, in an appeal, you could mention it and it could be considered.
Dec 9, 2018, 10:41 am
#445
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 32,063
Dec 9, 2018, 1:12 pm
#446
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CLE, DCA, and 30k feet
Programs: Honors LT Diamond; United 1K; Hertz PC
Posts: 4,165
I'm curious if there's any true consensus (reading the thread one gets an impression...) about the "trailing spend" component of the calculation, e.g. how many years back they go and if there's a magic total.
Looking at YTD+2017+2016 I'm currently sitting at $98.9k combined PQD with YTD PQCPbisM of $0.43 average across all miles (Or a segment average of $0.75 PQCPbisM).
I have one more guaranteed trip this year that would put me within $62 PQD of a$100k 3-year spend and wondering if moving up a 2019 trip in to this CY would do anything or if I should once again not hold my breath
Looking at YTD+2017+2016 I'm currently sitting at $98.9k combined PQD with YTD PQCPbisM of $0.43 average across all miles (Or a segment average of $0.75 PQCPbisM).
I have one more guaranteed trip this year that would put me within $62 PQD of a$100k 3-year spend and wondering if moving up a 2019 trip in to this CY would do anything or if I should once again not hold my breath
Dec 9, 2018, 2:17 pm
#447
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: NYC
Programs: UA GS, Amex Centurion, UA 1MM
Posts: 557
was on a flight CDG-EWR on Friday, the FA said there were 17 GS in a Polaris Cabin of 39. With the recent upswing in economy and people spending more....I wonder how much UA decides to cap GS. or not? How can it remain exclusive when 40% of a cabin is GS? (there were 25 1Ks on board too). I have to say it's very motivational for me to spend more to get and/ or keep GS, which arguably so amazing benefit that justifies the extra spend (either premium on UA or directing business that may goto other airlines to UA)
Dec 9, 2018, 2:59 pm
#448
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: LBB
Programs: UA 1K 1MM ★G | Marriott LTT | Hilton ♦ | Hertz PC | Global Entry TSA Pre ✓
Posts: 2,820
was on a flight CDG-EWR on Friday, the FA said there were 17 GS in a Polaris Cabin of 39. With the recent upswing in economy and people spending more....I wonder how much UA decides to cap GS. or not? How can it remain exclusive when 40% of a cabin is GS? (there were 25 1Ks on board too). I have to say it's very motivational for me to spend more to get and/ or keep GS, which arguably so amazing benefit that justifies the extra spend (either premium on UA or directing business that may goto other airlines to UA)
I have been on many off-peak flights to see non to 2 GS on a long haul TPAC / TATL.
There will be a lot of variance between flights and travel dates.... of course this is just an opinion based on a lot of flying.
Dec 10, 2018, 6:02 am
#449
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: ORD | LGA | 2E
Programs: UA GS 1.6MM UC | AA CK 0.7MM AC | Bonvoy Ambassador | Hyatt Globalist | Hertz PC
Posts: 1,054
True domestically as well. If I'm on the 6AM ORD <> LGA flight on Monday morning there are at least 10 GS members that board early. If I'm on the 10AM there are zero. If i'm on the 6AM on Wednesday, there are zero.
Dec 10, 2018, 6:24 am
#450
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: EWR
Programs: United GS, Marriott Titanium, Hertz PC
Posts: 37
Likely because this was a peak travel day (Friday) coming back from EU.
I have been on many off-peak flights to see non to 2 GS on a long haul TPAC / TATL.
There will be a lot of variance between flights and travel dates.... of course this is just an opinion based on a lot of flying.
I have been on many off-peak flights to see non to 2 GS on a long haul TPAC / TATL.
There will be a lot of variance between flights and travel dates.... of course this is just an opinion based on a lot of flying.