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Global Services Qualifying Discussion- 2018
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To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.

Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.

Definitions

BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.

The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.

Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using

PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS

Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.

As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.

One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.

rwsteelers had a good method for determining UA BIS -- the change in Lifetime Miles from the first of the year.
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Old Jul 15, 17, 8:44 am
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2018 GS Qualifying Discussion

Just finished booking nearly the rest of the year's travel, I have two more weeks in Dec I need to do, and I will finish up, once those two weeks are booked, with roughly 275PQM, 170PQS and $48-49,000PQD, 135BIS, .35CPM all on United and all in first with a few exceptions where it was not available. How do you think my chances are coming out of EWR? I reviewed the spread sheet and there are qualifiers with lower spend, miles and segments but also non-qualifiers with more of one of those categories.
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Old Jul 15, 17, 8:49 am
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Originally Posted by AugustusM View Post
Just finished booking nearly the rest of the year's travel, I have two more weeks in Dec I need to do, and I will finish up, once those two weeks are booked, with roughly 275PQM, 170PQS and $48-49,000PQD, 135BIS, .35CPM all on United and all in first with a few exceptions where it was not available. How do you think my chances are coming out of EWR? I reviewed the spread sheet and there are qualifiers with lower spend, miles and segments but also non-qualifiers with more of one of those categories.
Consensus seems to be that $50K is the threshold for initial qualification.. or very high CPM via premium cabin tickets. My .02 bytes would be to suggest getting over the $50K mark if possible.
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Old Jul 15, 17, 8:53 am
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Originally Posted by AugustusM View Post
Just finished booking nearly the rest of the year's travel, I have two more weeks in Dec I need to do, and I will finish up, once those two weeks are booked, with roughly 275PQM, 170PQS and $48-49,000PQD, 135BIS, .35CPM all on United and all in first with a few exceptions where it was not available. How do you think my chances are coming out of EWR? I reviewed the spread sheet and there are qualifiers with lower spend, miles and segments but also non-qualifiers with more of one of those categories.
My wife made it EWR-based for the first time with $39,000 spend, all in First or Business. I think your chances are very good.
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Old Jul 15, 17, 8:56 am
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Originally Posted by NH_Clark View Post
Consensus seems to be that $50K is the threshold for initial qualification.. or very high CPM via premium cabin tickets. My .02 bytes would be to suggest getting over the $50K mark if possible.
There's a chance one of those two un-booked weeks may require me to take 3 or 4 flights, that might put me over since it will all be west coast travel. Just not sure yet.

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My wife made it EWR-based for the first time with $39,000 spend, all in First or Business. I think your chances are very good.
How did her PQMs and PQSs look compared to mine?
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Originally Posted by AugustusM View Post
There's a chance one of those two un-booked weeks may require me to take 3 or 4 flights, that might put me over since it will all be west coast travel. Just not sure yet.



How did her PQMs and PQSs look compared to mine?
For GS qualification, PQM and PQS don't really matter. Total spend, spend in premium cabin and high CPM seem to be factors. Keep in mind all of our comments are total conjecture because there is no stated qualification requirements for GS. Except for Perks Plus.
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Old Jul 15, 17, 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by NH_Clark View Post
For GS qualification, PQM and PQS don't really matter. Total spend, spend in premium cabin and high CPM seem to be factors. Keep in mind all of our comments are total conjecture because there is no stated qualification requirements for GS. Except for Perks Plus.
Gotcha. How did her CPM compare to my projected final number of .35PM? As I mentioned earlier this was all, with the exception of 3 flights, up front. About 60% A fares, 30% P fares and a mix of the rest.
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Old Jul 15, 17, 12:14 pm
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1. The only reports I recall of mid year qualification are for people who were offered a "challenge" for having missed the cut from the previous year

2. That depends on whether you have reason to get status on one of those airlines and how much you value that. Keep in mind that the more UA you fly, the more instruments you'll obtain, and that if you do get GS they'll be more valuable next year. If you get to the next 50K PQM tier that's another 2 GPUs that can be used to upgrade saver economy awards, for example.

So there is still motivation to fly UA other than qualification.
1. Thanks. I wont bother asking UA again

2. I'm in paid business everywhere. The instruments (RPU/GPU) used to have value for upgrades to first, but with UA removing all first, I'm starting to question the value of these instruments. They've been reduced, for me at least, to only being valuable as gifts to friends/family/coworkers or when I'm on a three class LH flight (LAX-FRA). Redeemable miles are useful, but I very rarely fly for personal reasons (vacation for me is sitting at home)... so, again, gifts and whatnot.
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Old Jul 15, 17, 12:31 pm
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Originally Posted by NH_Clark View Post
For GS qualification, PQM and PQS don't really matter.
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Originally Posted by NH_Clark View Post
Total spend, spend in premium cabin and high CPM seem to be factors.
Nothing I've been told or seen would lead me to that conclusion. Currently the parameter that has 90+ % of the influence of GS qualification is UA Metal PQD (But watch out for LH in the future). Where the real confusion comes in is how much GS history is taken into account when re-qualifying; some people have re-qualified on quite low UA Metal PQDs. Also some regional 'home' airports seem to have marginally lower UA Metal PQD requirements but there really isn't enough accurate data points to be sure on that one.....Additionally, I started to believe the herd poison regarding SFO requiring a higher UA metal PQD but I can't see anything in the data to indicate that.
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Old Jul 15, 17, 1:50 pm
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This gets to one of my core questions about GS.

I mainly flew out LAX through April and accrued 50k PQM on Business Class flights to Hawaii, which unfortunately did not result in a lot of PQD because those flights LAX-HNL are pretty reasonable in business though rack up a lot of PQM.

I then relocated long term to New Orleans for business and will be flying out of MSY for the foreseeable future, which isn't the best but on United, is a 45 min flight from IAH so not the worst.

Now, how does United recognize my "home base" and if they see that I'm based out of MSY and flying 150k PQM with 30k in UA spend, how much higher (speculatively) are the chances of getting GS being out of MSY?

I say this as I looked at the GS roll call excel doc and didn't see anyone who is GS who is based out MSY (maybe there was 1.) Obviously all GS aren't on that doc but I think it is a decent reference.

Thanks all for your thoughts/comments..


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Nothing I've been told or seen would lead me to that conclusion. Currently the parameter that has 90+ % of the influence of GS qualification is UA Metal PQD (But watch out for LH in the future). Where the real confusion comes in is how much GS history is taken into account when re-qualifying; some people have re-qualified on quite low UA Metal PQDs. Also some regional 'home' airports seem to have marginally lower UA Metal PQD requirements but there really isn't enough accurate data points to be sure on that one.....Additionally, I started to believe the herd poison regarding SFO requiring a higher UA metal PQD but I can't see anything in the data to indicate that.
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Old Jul 15, 17, 2:29 pm
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if they see that I'm based out of MSY and flying 150k PQM with 30k in UA spend, how much higher (speculatively) are the chances of getting GS being out of MSY?
No realistic chance. Not enough $$.

PQM do not matter. Spend on UA metal matters. Minimum to have a realistic hope is $40k, and that is just a realistic hope. A few get it lower, but those are outliers. Over $55 or $60k is where you might start to feel confident.
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Thanks! Hopefully next year
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Now, how does United recognize my "home base"
Your home base(s) are the airports you frequent. The phrase is misleading.
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Got it. So theoretically, if I had 50k spend on UA Metal, would flying through a lot of not as heavily trafficked (by elites) airports help qualify ultimately?
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Got it. So theoretically, if I had 50k spend on UA Metal, would flying through a lot of not as heavily trafficked (by elites) airports help qualify ultimately?
It's believed that the standards are relaxed for pax based outstations, but the criteria are unpublished. The best predictor (really, the only meaningful predictor) is spend over about $55k. $40k is often thought of as a rough floor, with only a small number qualifying with lower spend.
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Originally Posted by ermintrude View Post
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Nothing I've been told or seen would lead me to that conclusion. Currently the parameter that has 90+ % of the influence of GS qualification is UA Metal PQD (But watch out for LH in the future). Where the real confusion comes in is how much GS history is taken into account when re-qualifying; some people have re-qualified on quite low UA Metal PQDs. Also some regional 'home' airports seem to have marginally lower UA Metal PQD requirements but there really isn't enough accurate data points to be sure on that one.....Additionally, I started to believe the herd poison regarding SFO requiring a higher UA metal PQD but I can't see anything in the data to indicate that.
When I stated Total Spend.. I meant on UA metal. Sorry for not clarifying.
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