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GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion


This will be a discussion thread, for discussing the needed qualifications and timing of notification.
For posing formal notifications (but no discussion), use this thread Global Services 2019 Notifications (ONLY)
2019 GS Timeline
First requal notifications came out on 6 Dec 2018
First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
For discussion of GS benefits, please use Consolidated Global Services Thread: Benefits, Questions 2018
For 2017 qualifications, see the 2017 thread and for 2018, see the 2018 thread

To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to
MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.

Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.

Definitions

BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.

The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.

Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using

PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS

Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.

As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.

One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.

rwsteelers had a good method for determining UA BIS -- the change in Lifetime Miles from the first of the year.

Originally Posted by sgopal2
Hello:

To help with collection of qualification metrics for global services, I created a Google Doc. This will be useful for future members. For ease of use, I created a form which feeds into a spreadsheet. The spreadsheet and form does not require a google account and is free to use.

Similar spreadsheets were created in years past, so I'm hoping to continue this tradition. Please take the time to enter your stats into the spreadsheet. Many thanks

LINK to entry form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SYm...xRKZ_EUD8/edit

View responses here ( read only ):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
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Old Jul 19, 2018, 5:36 am
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GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion / Questions

Just finished booking my flights out until December, I may have a couple more that month, and will finish around 260PQM/170PQS/$52KPQD which was similar to last year when I didn't make it, hopefully get it for next year as I have some international travel planned for both work and vacay.
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Old Jul 19, 2018, 8:14 am
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Originally Posted by AugustusM
Just finished booking my flights out until December, I may have a couple more that month, and will finish around 260PQM/170PQS/$52KPQD which was similar to last year when I didn't make it, hopefully get it for next year as I have some international travel planned for both work and vacay.
So long as all of those $52K are on United Metal you should stand a good chance.
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Old Jul 19, 2018, 8:33 am
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All United, same as last year. It may even go higher than that as I have a few weeks left open and I may do a couple work trips and one vacation.

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Old Jul 19, 2018, 11:18 am
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Originally Posted by AugustusM
Just finished booking my flights out until December, I may have a couple more that month, and will finish around 260PQM/170PQS/$52KPQD which was similar to last year when I didn't make it, hopefully get it for next year as I have some international travel planned for both work and vacay.
Smth is odd - according to all reports and spreadsheets 50K clears it. Did you ask for review?
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Old Jul 19, 2018, 11:23 am
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Originally Posted by azepine00
Smth is odd - according to all reports and spreadsheets 50K clears it. Did you ask for review?
Yup, was told I didn't qualify as my previous years were not high enough. While it was just my one data point the sentiment was that the look back is 2-3 years of spend relative to other fliers.
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Old Jul 19, 2018, 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by AugustusM
Yup, was told I didn't qualify as my previous years were not high enough. While it was just my one data point the sentiment was that the look back is 2-3 years of spend relative to other fliers.
Hope you make it this year - should overcome that multi year problem, but who knows! I was surprised in Jan when you didn’t make it nor get a review/challenge.
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Old Jul 19, 2018, 12:01 pm
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Originally Posted by TexasAggie02


Hope you make it this year - should overcome that multi year problem, but who knows! I was surprised in Jan when you didn’t make it nor get a review/challenge.
Thanks.

If I don't make it again and don't receive a challenge again I will most likely shift my travel patterns and spread it around much more. I requaled for 1K back in May so I could easily get equal status on another airline. The main issue is I live 6 miles from EWR and we know who hubbed up that place.

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Old Jul 19, 2018, 1:04 pm
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Originally Posted by AugustusM
Thanks.

If I don't make it again and don't receive a challenge again I will most likely shift my travel patterns and spread it around much more. I requaled for 1K back in May so I could easily get equal status on another airline. The main issue is I live 6 miles from EWR and we know who hubbed up that place.
even if you don't get GS again (which is unlikely), you are probably still better off sticking to united to keep racking up the GPUs/RPUs and have a large bucket of miles in one place. IMO.
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Old Jul 19, 2018, 2:32 pm
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I am 300K away from 4 MM.
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Old Jul 19, 2018, 4:24 pm
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Originally Posted by AugustusM
Just finished booking my flights out until December, I may have a couple more that month, and will finish around 260PQM/170PQS/$52KPQD which was similar to last year when I didn't make it, hopefully get it for next year as I have some international travel planned for both work and vacay.
How much of that is full-fare Y or premium cabin travel? I ask because of your high PQM/PQS for that spend.
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Old Jul 20, 2018, 5:13 am
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Originally Posted by physioprof
How much of that is full-fare Y or premium cabin travel? I ask because of your high PQM/PQS for that spend.
As of today it's almost all A fares with a handful of D, Z and P also 2 economy when there wasn't first due to the type of aircraft. I fly to Reno, PDX and a few other places frequently where I need to connect in ORD or DEN as either the flight times don't work on the direct or there isn't one.
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Old Jul 20, 2018, 4:28 pm
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Looking to end the year at around $42K PQD flying mostly refundable economy E and M, and quite a bit of discount business P and Z. I know CPM likely is not a contributor to GS consideration, but I should end up around $0.38-$0.40 cpm.
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Old Jul 21, 2018, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by jjmoore
Looking to end the year at around $42K PQD flying mostly refundable economy E and M, and quite a bit of discount business P and Z. I know CPM likely is not a contributor to GS consideration, but I should end up around $0.38-$0.40 cpm.
I will hit similar PQDs but all P,Z,A fares. Probably ~120K BIS equating to double that in PQMs. All domestic. Very similar to previous years and have never made GS so I don't see it happening this year. If I could just tack-on 2-3 $5K international RTs in C I think that would tip me over the line.
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Old Jul 21, 2018, 5:16 pm
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I am tracking my spend this year and have hit $54k spend and 187k PQM. Does anyone know if you can get invited to GS mid-year or do I have to wait for the end of the year? I have more travel coming that will add at least $20k spend and 50k PQM.

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Old Jul 21, 2018, 5:35 pm
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Originally Posted by ihasund
I am tracking my spend this year and have hit $54k spend and 187k PQM. Does anyone know if you can get invited to GS mid-year or do I have to wait for the end of the year? I have more travel coming that will add at least $20k spend and 50k PQM.



you have to wait until the end of the year.
Global Services 2017 Notifications (ONLY)

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