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GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion


This will be a discussion thread, for discussing the needed qualifications and timing of notification.
For posing formal notifications (but no discussion), use this thread Global Services 2019 Notifications (ONLY)
2019 GS Timeline
First requal notifications came out on 6 Dec 2018
First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
For discussion of GS benefits, please use Consolidated Global Services Thread: Benefits, Questions 2018
For 2017 qualifications, see the 2017 thread and for 2018, see the 2018 thread

To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to
MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.

Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.

Definitions

BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.

The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.

Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using

PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS

Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.

As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.

One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.

rwsteelers had a good method for determining UA BIS -- the change in Lifetime Miles from the first of the year.

Originally Posted by sgopal2
Hello:

To help with collection of qualification metrics for global services, I created a Google Doc. This will be useful for future members. For ease of use, I created a form which feeds into a spreadsheet. The spreadsheet and form does not require a google account and is free to use.

Similar spreadsheets were created in years past, so I'm hoping to continue this tradition. Please take the time to enter your stats into the spreadsheet. Many thanks

LINK to entry form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SYm...xRKZ_EUD8/edit

View responses here ( read only ):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
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Old Dec 19, 2018, 10:37 am
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Join Date: Dec 2017
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GS QUalification

Already a GS member in 2018 - out of EWR
160 PQMs
$38K PQDs
status under review - feel like i might be too borderline this year - thoughts?
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Old Dec 19, 2018, 11:25 am
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Join Date: Mar 2013
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Originally Posted by thomisont
I was kind of expecting to cross the GS threshold this year for the first time (IAH based)

2013 - 2016 1K with spends in the mid teens
2017 1K Status with: PQM 158,335; PMS 67.5; PQD $28,787
2018 YTD: PQM 279,831; PQS 123; PDQ $64,616

Seems like my stats are in line with GS invite criteria but I've not yet been notified nor do I see a pending or under review notice on my Premier Progress page.

Any thought on if might still get notified for 2019 GS?

Thanks!
In years past, qualifications typically happen between Jan 4-8 ... If you haven't heard by the 8th, you are probably borderline and final decisions for review cases for 1K-GS qualifiers will be settled around the 3rd week of Jan. I would send in a request for review if you haven't heard by the 10th of Jan or so.... but with your stats, I think you're getting in the first wave in Jan.
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Old Dec 19, 2018, 3:43 pm
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Location: NYC
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OK I have my final stats all flying done for the year - hoping for GS re-qualification in January. Good luck to all!!

UA BIS 70,842
UA PQM 145,870
UA PQD 43,229
UA PQS 34
UA CPM $0.61
*A PQD 45,126

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Old Dec 19, 2018, 4:24 pm
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Join Date: Jul 2015
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Originally Posted by JEseat14a
Already a GS member in 2018 - out of EWR
160 PQMs
$38K PQDs
status under review - feel like i might be too borderline this year - thoughts?
Out of EWR doesn't look good. But I don't know what your spend rate was last year. My nephew had a similar spend in 2017 out of SFO with previous years of GS and much higher spend rate over those years. He appealed it and surprisingly they rolled over and gave him the GS invite for 2018. You may want to check this route out if you don't get the invite for 2019.

Last edited by nomad420; Dec 19, 2018 at 4:25 pm Reason: typo
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Old Dec 19, 2018, 6:18 pm
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Originally Posted by jjmoore
In years past, qualifications typically happen between Jan 4-8 ... If you haven't heard by the 8th, you are probably borderline and final decisions for review cases for 1K-GS qualifiers will be settled around the 3rd week of Jan. I would send in a request for review if you haven't heard by the 10th of Jan or so.... but with your stats, I think you're getting in the first wave in Jan.
jjmoore - Thanks! Appreciate the insight into notification periods. Wasn't sure what to expect since this was my first go. Keeping fingers crossed early January.
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Old Dec 20, 2018, 7:28 am
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: LAX IAH AMS
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I always thought $50k was the minimum but my coworker made it at 47k and now that I look here, I see lots in the mid 40s. I've always been 55k+ and sweating every year for requal. guess I don't have to sweat next year!
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Old Dec 20, 2018, 8:50 pm
  #517  
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Houston
Programs: UA GS 2.6MM & Lifetime UC, Qantas Platinum, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, Bonvoy Platinum, HawaiianMiles
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Originally Posted by avi8tir
I always thought $50k was the minimum but my coworker made it at 47k and now that I look here, I see lots in the mid 40s. I've always been 55k+ and sweating every year for requal. guess I don't have to sweat next year!
Indeed, seems pretty easy (relatively speaking) these days. Same as last 2 years...
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Old Dec 21, 2018, 9:19 am
  #518  
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
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I will be very bummed if I don't make it. I am probably on the bubble. 146K PQM and $45K spend, but based out of SFO. Anyone know how to request reconsideration?
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Old Dec 21, 2018, 9:30 am
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Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: SFO
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Originally Posted by Dgrant69
I will be very bummed if I don't make it. I am probably on the bubble. 146K PQM and $45K spend, but based out of SFO. Anyone know how to request reconsideration?
Are you currently GS or what is your history the last couple of years? I had around 32K PQD and was 1K. The next year I hit 60K PQD and got in out of SFO a couple of years ago.
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Old Dec 21, 2018, 10:58 am
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: BOS+SFO+SIN
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Didn't make it in the initial re-quals, finished up travel for the year with the following stats:
306K PQM
$58K PQD
95 PQS

All but ~$4K are United PQD, had an ANA trip or two in between.

Qualified last year with similar stats, got notified for first time last January, had been 1-K for two years, then 4 years GS prior. Boston based.

Fingers crossed!

The waiting begins....
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Old Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 pm
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Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: San Diego, CA
Programs: UA GS 1M / EK Platinum / Bonvoy Titanium Elite / IHG Platinum Elite
Posts: 42
Been 1k for a few years and in prior years PQD have been pretty low (i.e. $12-15k). This year I switched jobs and have been traveling a lot since Jan. Finished my last trip and here are my stats. I am new to this, but after reading it sounds like 1st week of Jan is notifications for 1st time GS qualification. It seemed like there was some discussion on prior years' spend as part of the consideration. It's clear from reading the thread it plays a role in re-qualifications, but does it also play a role in 1st time qualifications?

Here are my year end stats if I did the math correctly on CPM and BIS:
All United Metal stats:
PQD: $89,105
PQM: 348,087
BIS: 239,643
CPM: $0.37

I think I'm good, but what I'm getting tripped up on is the prior year's spend, which as stated prior have been pretty low.
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Old Dec 24, 2018, 1:25 pm
  #522  
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
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Originally Posted by cubsko
Been 1k for a few years and in prior years PQD have been pretty low (i.e. $12-15k). This year I switched jobs and have been traveling a lot since Jan. Finished my last trip and here are my stats. I am new to this, but after reading it sounds like 1st week of Jan is notifications for 1st time GS qualification. It seemed like there was some discussion on prior years' spend as part of the consideration. It's clear from reading the thread it plays a role in re-qualifications, but does it also play a role in 1st time qualifications?

Here are my year end stats if I did the math correctly on CPM and BIS:
All United Metal stats:
PQD: $89,105
PQM: 348,087
BIS: 239,643
CPM: $0.37

I think I'm good, but what I'm getting tripped up on is the prior year's spend, which as stated prior have been pretty low.
shoo in on Jan 5 hopefully. No reason in the world you don't get in with the first batch.
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Old Dec 26, 2018, 5:05 pm
  #523  
 
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Nephew has been GS for years has a $48K PQD (UA metal) out of SFO and still no invite. Sounds like he didn't make round one and is a bit nervous. He initially didn't get the invite last year with around a $43K spend petitioned it and got the invite for 2018 but he is concerned about having to possibly petition them again for a 2019 invite. Anybody with spend rates in this area out of SFO get the GS invite?
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Old Dec 26, 2018, 6:26 pm
  #524  
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Originally Posted by nomad420
.... Anybody with spend rates in this area out of SFO get the GS invite?
....Global Services 2019 Notifications (ONLY) is a clean list of just requalifiers (so far) and most have provided qualifying PQDs. A dozen or so have self identified SFO and one was $49K, the rest were higher
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Old Dec 26, 2018, 11:55 pm
  #525  
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Programs: UA 1MM - Platinum. Southwest A-list preferred. Hilton Diamond (10+ years)
Posts: 23
LOWEST PQD for GS?

Very curious about this. I've been 1K annualy for almost 10 years. I book 100% of domestic (US) flights just straight First. I book all international couch with my upgrades and fly Polaris. I've reached 145,000 miles a year minimum for ten years, but my spend is way low, like $15 - $20 K total. Anyone ever hit GS with that kind of spend?
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