March 3rd, 2012 System Integration Master Thread (PSS)
#3241


Join Date: Apr 2011
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However this was a flight out of EWR (i.e. CO); is it possible that PMCO FAs are just still doing it the stupid old PMCO way, or do we have actual confirmation (as opposed to speculation with a high probability of correctness) that having our status ignored on board is now COdbaUA policy going forward?
I've been selecting seats towards the front of the F cabin on this basis since 3/3, but I really prefer to sit further back. And clearly even row 2 can't guarantee you a choice!
ObOnTopic: the thousands of lifetime miles that were arbitrarily subtracted from my lifetime history on 3/26 still haven't come back. Has anyone else in this predicament had any luck recovering theirs?
#3242
Join Date: May 2009
Location: PHL
Posts: 2,842
However this was a flight out of EWR (i.e. CO); is it possible that PMCO FAs are just still doing it the stupid old PMCO way, or do we have actual confirmation (as opposed to speculation with a high probability of correctness) that having our status ignored on board is now COdbaUA policy going forward?
As a PMCO guy I wouldn't mind meals by status but since there now seems to be a ton of 1Ks I also wouldn't mind some type of rotation like AA does.
#3243


Join Date: Apr 2011
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 110
It's a new policy. Two weeks ago I was on a PMUA 319 PHL-LAX with a long time PMUA FA and not only was it front to back but when I talked about the merger with her she labeled it as a downgrade for the 1Ks.
As a PMCO guy I wouldn't mind meals by status but since there now seems to be a ton of 1Ks I also wouldn't mind some type of rotation like AA does.
As a PMCO guy I wouldn't mind meals by status but since there now seems to be a ton of 1Ks I also wouldn't mind some type of rotation like AA does.
Time to go push all my existing reservations' seat assignments forward I guess, and maybe learn to appreciate the bulkheads...
#3244
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: SFO, LON
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And I always sit in bulkheads, I don't like seats reclining into me especially if I want to watch a movie on my laptop ...
#3245
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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And I always sit in bulkheads, I don't like seats reclining into me especially if I want to watch a movie on my laptop ...
#3246
Join Date: May 2009
Location: PHL
Posts: 2,842
This evening I finally received a response (several weeks late, though not entirely their fault, I had some issues with a spam filter the first time they responded) from 1kvoice. It was in regards to my complaint of significant website outages (There were several days in late April when I could not access UA.com for 6+ hours) and late posting flights (Yes they finally posted and they weren't nearly as late as many of you have experienced).
Their response....Sorry, thanks for being 1K, have a great day. Why I expected anything more is beyond me.
Their response....Sorry, thanks for being 1K, have a great day. Why I expected anything more is beyond me.
#3247




Join Date: May 2007
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This evening I finally received a response (several weeks late, though not entirely their fault, I had some issues with a spam filter the first time they responded) from 1kvoice. It was in regards to my complaint of significant website outages (There were several days in late April when I could not access UA.com for 6+ hours) and late posting flights (Yes they finally posted and they weren't nearly as late as many of you have experienced).
Their response....Sorry, thanks for being 1K, have a great day. Why I expected anything more is beyond me.
Their response....Sorry, thanks for being 1K, have a great day. Why I expected anything more is beyond me.
Your issues were fixed? I understand if you are complaining in that you wanted the problems brought to management attention (which, from what you wrote, happened), but were you also expecting compensation?
#3248




Join Date: May 2011
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It's a new policy. Two weeks ago I was on a PMUA 319 PHL-LAX with a long time PMUA FA and not only was it front to back but when I talked about the merger with her she labeled it as a downgrade for the 1Ks.
As a PMCO guy I wouldn't mind meals by status but since there now seems to be a ton of 1Ks I also wouldn't mind some type of rotation like AA does.
As a PMCO guy I wouldn't mind meals by status but since there now seems to be a ton of 1Ks I also wouldn't mind some type of rotation like AA does.
I just wish they did it all consistently.
#3249


Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: SFO/OAK
Programs: *Alliance
Posts: 291
The best way to please an FA these days in F is the "give me whatever is left" line; OK, short of handing tootsie pops, perhaps?
I always pick up some shortbread cookies from the United Club before I board and give them to the FA in exchange for my diet coke
couple that with a thank you and a smile and you made the FAs day a little brighter.
I always pick up some shortbread cookies from the United Club before I board and give them to the FA in exchange for my diet coke
couple that with a thank you and a smile and you made the FAs day a little brighter.
#3250
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: San Diego
Programs: UA: Premier 1K AA: Executive Platinum
Posts: 354
The best way to please an FA these days in F is the "give me whatever is left" line; OK, short of handing tootsie pops, perhaps?
I always pick up some shortbread cookies from the United Club before I board and give them to the FA in exchange for my diet coke
couple that with a thank you and a smile and you made the FAs day a little brighter.
I always pick up some shortbread cookies from the United Club before I board and give them to the FA in exchange for my diet coke
couple that with a thank you and a smile and you made the FAs day a little brighter.Two months after the integration:
Boarding pass for a simple UA metal single leg flight to Canada cannot be printed out: THIS IS NOT A BOARDING PASS.
Canceled ticket from 1 April was not credited. Agent did so manually today. Five weeks later.
Mileage credit for 17 April Eva Airlines flight three weeks later: No.
Upgrade on international flight based on Regional Upgrade Certificate denied. Doh. Of course. But website did not let me chose GPU. Agent manually upgraded me with a GPU.
Ticket by mail (using Type B voucher) was left unprocessed for nearly three weeks. Why - the Type B voucher's value exceeded the ticket price and triggered a "no payment submitted" or something like this error. In the meantime, UA neither issued the ticket or refunded the difference. Agent manually added credit card to have ticket processed.
Dial the 1K number and the system recognizes my phone number. When trying to go direct to an agent rather than progressing through some inane menu, it simply stated "since you have not submitted your MP number, you are being placed in the general queue". Hang up, dial. again.
58 minutes later a great pmUA agent had fixed all problems.
That being said: UA, I am getting really tired of your lack of competence but even more so of your lousy leadership. Admit the screw ups, fix them, and treat customers as adults.
Is the grass greener somewhere else? I am moving much of my company's spend to other carriers so we'll see.
Boarding pass for a simple UA metal single leg flight to Canada cannot be printed out: THIS IS NOT A BOARDING PASS.
Canceled ticket from 1 April was not credited. Agent did so manually today. Five weeks later.
Mileage credit for 17 April Eva Airlines flight three weeks later: No.
Upgrade on international flight based on Regional Upgrade Certificate denied. Doh. Of course. But website did not let me chose GPU. Agent manually upgraded me with a GPU.
Ticket by mail (using Type B voucher) was left unprocessed for nearly three weeks. Why - the Type B voucher's value exceeded the ticket price and triggered a "no payment submitted" or something like this error. In the meantime, UA neither issued the ticket or refunded the difference. Agent manually added credit card to have ticket processed.
Dial the 1K number and the system recognizes my phone number. When trying to go direct to an agent rather than progressing through some inane menu, it simply stated "since you have not submitted your MP number, you are being placed in the general queue". Hang up, dial. again.
58 minutes later a great pmUA agent had fixed all problems.
That being said: UA, I am getting really tired of your lack of competence but even more so of your lousy leadership. Admit the screw ups, fix them, and treat customers as adults.
Is the grass greener somewhere else? I am moving much of my company's spend to other carriers so we'll see.
Even as a GS I would have no problem if UA decided to take meal orders Paid-F, GS, 1K, . . . Front to back is wrong for lots of reasons for all elites and paid tickets. The thing is - this is a "benefit" that would cost UA absolutely nothing to handle as pmUA did and make all elites happier with the outcome and yet they remove the benefit for no reason. That's just nuts - arbitrarily annoy your better customers for no gain to the airline? Yes, as a GS I still get priority choice but UA should do it in order for 1Ks and real paid tickets as well.
THANK YOU for this entire post. THANKS! Ugh. I couldn't agree more ^
I used an RPU the other day less than 5 hours before departure with 17 (!!) people waitlisted for F. Did I feel bad? Yes. But did I even check where I would be on the list? No. I just grabbed the seat, cuz even though I SHOULD have been really high up, I knew that other people would prly grab the R seats and that would have been it...
Kinda sad.
Last edited by iluv2fly; May 10, 2012 at 5:23 am Reason: merge
#3251
Join Date: May 2009
Location: PHL
Posts: 2,842
So in all no this is not a Level 1 severe issue but I don't think it would hurt their CS if they retained the PMUA strategy of at least throwing a bone at customers they inconvenience
+1 -- I was on two PMUA flights back to back on Monday with the same crew in 1st. The first meal order was taken front to back. The second was in a U shaped way (started on the left side 1st row and went all the way back ONLY on the left side -- then right side last row and all the way to the front). I was sitting on the 1st row right side (i.e. last) but I was tired so I didn't say anything.
I just wish they did it all consistently.
I just wish they did it all consistently.
I thought you couldn't use an RPU within 24 hours?
Last edited by nova08; May 10, 2012 at 6:16 am
#3252




Join Date: May 2007
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]his was not a complete outage of the system as other FTers had no issue during the these times and I was never informed of an outage of this nature during business hours. As far as I'm concerned they probably have no idea why I experienced the outage. They got to my email 2 weeks late and its doubtful they went back to determine why it was down and ensure other customers do not experience similar outages unless absolutely necessary. BTW, my account never changed in the midst of all these outtages, so it wasn't an infamous sweep.
So in all no this is not a Level 1 severe issue but I don't think it would hurt their CS if they retained the PMUA strategy of at least throwing a bone at customers they inconvenience
So in all no this is not a Level 1 severe issue but I don't think it would hurt their CS if they retained the PMUA strategy of at least throwing a bone at customers they inconvenience
Even if it were UA's fault, I understand it's frustrating to not be able to access the website, but I really don't think that this complaint deserves compensation, sorry. People expecting compensation for these kind of issues is what makes it harder for the rest of us to get compensation for more serious issues.
#3254
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 537
Just called MilagePlus. No wait time at all and the agent said she would reissue and they would post in 48-72 hours. Very quick and painless.
#3255
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: San Diego
Programs: UA: Premier 1K AA: Executive Platinum
Posts: 354

