Is Global Entry worthwhile?
#736

Join Date: Jul 2008
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Newbie NEXUS/GE/IRIS person here with some thoughts
Signed up for IRIS last year. Did the whole NEXUS to GE transition at the begining of the year. Haven't used NEXUS yet but have use GE twice and IRIS a few times. As previous people have caught on, the kiosk process for NEXUS asks 'hard' food questions versus GE's specific ingredients based question. Based on my experiences and my chat with the NEXUS office, NEXUS is on paper (or screen) tougher about food than GE.
The first time I used GE, I said yes to the dairy/eggs question as I had a belgian waffle with me (not processed but packaged). After the paper came out with the big X on it, gave it to the CBP agent behind the kiosk and asked what I had. He said, "That's it?" and stamped my paper and I left for customs. The CBP person at customs didn't notice the stamp at first and started scratching his head. Once I pointed to it, he gave me the singal to head on out.
I agree with the theme - better to be safe than sorry. Even with the X or the NEXUS equivalent, sounds like you have an easy out if you explain what caused it.
Nothing better than seeing the US line 5 rows deep and 2 empty kisoks calling your name. Happy trails!
The first time I used GE, I said yes to the dairy/eggs question as I had a belgian waffle with me (not processed but packaged). After the paper came out with the big X on it, gave it to the CBP agent behind the kiosk and asked what I had. He said, "That's it?" and stamped my paper and I left for customs. The CBP person at customs didn't notice the stamp at first and started scratching his head. Once I pointed to it, he gave me the singal to head on out.
I agree with the theme - better to be safe than sorry. Even with the X or the NEXUS equivalent, sounds like you have an easy out if you explain what caused it.
Nothing better than seeing the US line 5 rows deep and 2 empty kisoks calling your name. Happy trails!
#737



Join Date: Dec 2004
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Using the GE kiosk at ORD on Monday, I had problems with the correct pressure of my fingers on the scanner and before I could do the adjustments, the machine went on to the next screen and at the end, I received my receipt with the big "X". So I had to see the CBP officer at the regular line but fortunately he let me cut in line. Today, I received an email from [email protected] noting that I have difficulties with one of their kiosk and wanted my comments on how to improve the machine. I think they are serious about getting the program to work correctly.
#738
Join Date: May 2005
Location: COU, STL
Programs: DL Plat,, HH Gold
Posts: 40
Alas as Geneva Flyer knew, I was not able to do my GE interview in AMS on Saturday as the Privium lounge is closed on the weekends.
I have my interview set for this Tuesday the 2nd in ATL.
Can't wait to use it on my return from LIR!
I have my interview set for this Tuesday the 2nd in ATL.
Can't wait to use it on my return from LIR!
#739




Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Luxembourg
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I have just been through this process, so let me clear up a few mistakes or outdated info in this thread:
Privium is open to EU citizens and now also to US citizens who have already been accepted to the GOES program.
There WAS a CBP officer in AMS until 24.2 and he will not be back until end April or May.
Normal process for US Citizens: Sign up for GOES (checking that you want FLUX, i.e. Privium also), perform GOES interview, recieve GOES sticker in passport, perform Privium interview and iris scan.
WHEN a CBP officer is "in residence" in AMS, this may all be completed there, if you ask for the FLUX interview. They will NOT let you have the Privium interview and scan until you have the CBP sticker from GOES in your passport. So for US passport holders, this means that you have to have a trip to the US before completing the process in AMS.
Just a warning. Membership in the GOES program means that if CBP ever catches you out on something, they will throw the book at you. They were very explicit with this. They call it a "trusted program" and if you cheat, they will nail you to the wall.
Privium is open to EU citizens and now also to US citizens who have already been accepted to the GOES program.
There WAS a CBP officer in AMS until 24.2 and he will not be back until end April or May.
Normal process for US Citizens: Sign up for GOES (checking that you want FLUX, i.e. Privium also), perform GOES interview, recieve GOES sticker in passport, perform Privium interview and iris scan.
WHEN a CBP officer is "in residence" in AMS, this may all be completed there, if you ask for the FLUX interview. They will NOT let you have the Privium interview and scan until you have the CBP sticker from GOES in your passport. So for US passport holders, this means that you have to have a trip to the US before completing the process in AMS.
Just a warning. Membership in the GOES program means that if CBP ever catches you out on something, they will throw the book at you. They were very explicit with this. They call it a "trusted program" and if you cheat, they will nail you to the wall.
#740




Join Date: Feb 2005
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I am unsure about this last paragraph in your post. What are you implying?
#741
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#742
Join Date: Mar 2007
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I was also warned in the interview that it is a one-strike policy - the first time you falsify information, even if inadvertent, results in removal from the GE program. The CBP officer also said that, due to the intent of the program, anyone caught breaking the rules would be prosecuted to the fullest extent permitted, specifically stating there would be criminal consequences, not just a simple fine.
#743
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: MSP
Programs: Lapsed DL North PE, now nothing
Posts: 701
Per the food/chocolate discussion upthread, I got the X today because of chocolate in DTW. I figured it was dairy, and may have nuts, so I clicked yes. They were great about rushing me through, and told me I got X'd 'cause of that answer. They weren't really sure that chocolate counted as food, but I guess I'll check that every time just to stay within the rules.
I always bring chocolate back from Europe, so I guess I'll be seeing a lot of X's.
I always bring chocolate back from Europe, so I guess I'll be seeing a lot of X's.
#745
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Normal process for US Citizens: Sign up for GOES (checking that you want FLUX, i.e. Privium also), perform GOES interview, recieve GOES sticker in passport, perform Privium interview and iris scan.
WHEN a CBP officer is "in residence" in AMS, this may all be completed there, if you ask for the FLUX interview. They will NOT let you have the Privium interview and scan until you have the CBP sticker from GOES in your passport. So for US passport holders, this means that you have to have a trip to the US before completing the process in AMS.
Just a warning. Membership in the GOES program means that if CBP ever catches you out on something, they will throw the book at you. They were very explicit with this. They call it a "trusted program" and if you cheat, they will nail you to the wall.
WHEN a CBP officer is "in residence" in AMS, this may all be completed there, if you ask for the FLUX interview. They will NOT let you have the Privium interview and scan until you have the CBP sticker from GOES in your passport. So for US passport holders, this means that you have to have a trip to the US before completing the process in AMS.
Just a warning. Membership in the GOES program means that if CBP ever catches you out on something, they will throw the book at you. They were very explicit with this. They call it a "trusted program" and if you cheat, they will nail you to the wall.
Just to be clear (at the risk of sounding like a broken record, but I think it's essential that we be clear for those who read this thread seeking accurate info):
- there is no such thing as a "GOES program" (at least not from the traveler perspective)
- there is no such thing as a "GOES interview" (at least not from the traveler perspective)
- there is no such thing as a "GOES sticker"
GOES is not a trusted traveler program. GOES is nothing more than a web application/portal used for applying for various trusted traveler programs, including GlobalEntry, the topic of this thread.
- there IS a GlobalEntry program
- there IS a GlobalEntry interview
- there IS a "CBP" sticker issued to GlobalEntry members
Please, everyone, let's get our terminology clear!
#746
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Northeast Kansas | Colorado Native
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Just to be clear (at the risk of sounding like a broken record, but I think it's essential that we be clear for those who read this thread seeking accurate info):
- there is no such thing as a "GOES program" (at least not from the traveler perspective)
- there is no such thing as a "GOES interview" (at least not from the traveler perspective)
- there is no such thing as a "GOES sticker"
GOES is not a trusted traveler program. GOES is nothing more than a web application/portal used for applying for various trusted traveler programs, including GlobalEntry, the topic of this thread.
- there IS a GlobalEntry program
- there IS a GlobalEntry interview
- there IS a "CBP" sticker issued to GlobalEntry members
Please, everyone, let's get our terminology clear!
- there is no such thing as a "GOES program" (at least not from the traveler perspective)
- there is no such thing as a "GOES interview" (at least not from the traveler perspective)
- there is no such thing as a "GOES sticker"
GOES is not a trusted traveler program. GOES is nothing more than a web application/portal used for applying for various trusted traveler programs, including GlobalEntry, the topic of this thread.
- there IS a GlobalEntry program
- there IS a GlobalEntry interview
- there IS a "CBP" sticker issued to GlobalEntry members
Please, everyone, let's get our terminology clear!
#747
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Customs actually had a booth at the New York Times Travel Show promoting the Global Entry Program (and other stuff). When I passed by they had a couple people willing to write the application fee checks right there, they were so interested in the program.
#748
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: 1 AU
Programs: Support the Tyrants Travel Club
Posts: 2,708
another sticker report: At DTW, white CBP sticker was placed on inside back cover of my passport.
also, another nice thing about NEXUS, which I hadn't really known about, was that it works for entry into Canada from ANY country, not just the US. So it's like Global Entry for Canada, I guess. It makes transiting through much easier now.
also, another nice thing about NEXUS, which I hadn't really known about, was that it works for entry into Canada from ANY country, not just the US. So it's like Global Entry for Canada, I guess. It makes transiting through much easier now.
#749
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Champaign (CMI)
Programs: AA ExecPlat
Posts: 92
First time GE at ORD: A little NEXUS to GE glitch?
Hi Collective Wisdom:
On Saturday, 20 February, 2010, NRT-ORD about 4:30PM. Tried out GE for the first time using my greencard. System told me that I was not a GE member. CBP agent was right there and did my entry by "hand" (I had filled out my blue card on the plane as a back up). Had some time to kill so I went to the CBP office in T5 after rechecking my bags. Very nice officer on duty. He told me that the GE folks do not work on Saturdays but he was willing to see what he could do. He handed my greencard and Canadian passport over to another nice officer. I had printouts of both my NEXUS and GE acceptance letters and my NEXUS card with me but they didn't want/need to deal with them. Waited about ten minutes and the second officer came back with my greencard (with a spiffy little sticker attached) and my passport.
Turns out that during my NEXUS YYZ interview (before I applied via GOES for my GE), that the YYZ CBP officer did not "register" my greencard into the system. Got my NEXUS card in early Jan and then did the online "upgrade" to GE with almost instant acceptance. Nice ORD officer said she had registered my greencard and that I should be good to go in the future.
Have a FRA trip in early March. Will report back on how the "fixed" greencard works when I get back.
Haven't used my NEXUS yet (trip to YUL in March). Will also report if things break again after my YUL trip.
Cheers and safe travels all,
DocD
On Saturday, 20 February, 2010, NRT-ORD about 4:30PM. Tried out GE for the first time using my greencard. System told me that I was not a GE member. CBP agent was right there and did my entry by "hand" (I had filled out my blue card on the plane as a back up). Had some time to kill so I went to the CBP office in T5 after rechecking my bags. Very nice officer on duty. He told me that the GE folks do not work on Saturdays but he was willing to see what he could do. He handed my greencard and Canadian passport over to another nice officer. I had printouts of both my NEXUS and GE acceptance letters and my NEXUS card with me but they didn't want/need to deal with them. Waited about ten minutes and the second officer came back with my greencard (with a spiffy little sticker attached) and my passport.
Turns out that during my NEXUS YYZ interview (before I applied via GOES for my GE), that the YYZ CBP officer did not "register" my greencard into the system. Got my NEXUS card in early Jan and then did the online "upgrade" to GE with almost instant acceptance. Nice ORD officer said she had registered my greencard and that I should be good to go in the future.
Have a FRA trip in early March. Will report back on how the "fixed" greencard works when I get back.
Haven't used my NEXUS yet (trip to YUL in March). Will also report if things break again after my YUL trip.
Cheers and safe travels all,
DocD
#750

Join Date: Jul 2008
Programs: AA: Former CK (LT PLT), MB: PE (LT Gold)
Posts: 503
Mine is on the outside back cover. Mods, curious if we can run a poll here for inside/outside of the back cover.
Last edited by ktakahashi; Mar 1, 2010 at 2:29 pm Reason: clarification


