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emcampbe Feb 5, 2013 9:16 pm


Originally Posted by xero9 (Post 20193288)
I had to read this a second time.

GE is $100
NEXUS is $50

Yes, I mistyped (and fixed it now). Meant to say GE is more than Nexus.

xero9 Feb 5, 2013 9:45 pm


Originally Posted by emcampbe (Post 20193396)
Yes, I mistyped (and fixed it now). Meant to say GE is more than Nexus.

Ah figured that much! :P

I hope I didn't come across as rude originally. My apologies if I did.

canadiancow Feb 5, 2013 10:24 pm


Originally Posted by emcampbe (Post 20193053)
The updating isn't about "GE" vs "Nexus" so much but more about US vs. Canada. Theoretically, when you bring your docs to get updated at a Nexus office, the Canadians handle it, then usually pass the update on to the US side on the backend. At least that's my experience in YYZ. Was in the downtown Vancouver office, where my wife needed to update her docs, and the Canadians processed their part, then they sent her over to the US officer, who took the new docs and updated their side. Any updates the US does really updates their US system for both Nexus and GE.

When I got my TN status to work in the US, I went to the GE enrollment center in SFO to update my profile with the TN status, new address, phone number, employer, etc. Do I also need to do something so the Canadian system is updated? I've used NEXUS twice since then to enter Canada.

shuckit Feb 6, 2013 1:01 pm

Had my interview last Thursday. Got my Nexus card in the mail today (Wednesday). Sent from Blaine, WA. Pretty quick.

xero9 Feb 6, 2013 8:20 pm

Hi all, quick question..

I've heard (only on this forum) that you aren't allowed to bring items belonging to other people with you through NEXUS. My wife's friend has ordered a pair of shoes to be sent to the place we're staying at in the US. Is this actually a problem upon our return to Canada? Basically, I'm wondering if there is any way this can be interpreted so that I can still use NEXUS.

flyquiet Feb 6, 2013 9:41 pm


Originally Posted by xero9 (Post 20200296)
Hi all, quick question..

I've heard (only on this forum) that you aren't allowed to bring items belonging to other people with you through NEXUS. My wife's friend has ordered a pair of shoes to be sent to the place we're staying at in the US. Is this actually a problem upon our return to Canada? Basically, I'm wondering if there is any way this can be interpreted so that I can still use NEXUS.

My impression was that if as you pass across the border that the things you acquire in any manner while in the US are YOUR property and if you bring them with you, they are being imported by YOU, thus if they are declared and within your exemption (or YOU pay duty and tax as appropriate) then it should not be an issue. Once on this side, you can give away any of your property at any time. I think the issue would be if you said those aren't mine they are this other non-traveller's goods and I am a deliveryman -- that would not be allowable. (And make sure the shoes are not made of food!!)

Nicodemus75 Feb 6, 2013 10:13 pm


Originally Posted by Shareholder (Post 20142948)
She must drop into any centre to have the DL photocopied for the change. Even passports have to be presented for photocopying and confirming any change made online. No appointment is necessary and it takes just a few minutes. However, she can also call the centre to advise the new DL number but must still do a physical visit.

I have read this sort of thing several times throughout the thread. I was issued a new passport today at the passport office in YYC. So I called the Nexus office at YYC airport to enquire if I had to have the document physically verified by border agents for either Nexus or Global Entry, or for entry into US/CANADA, vice versa (my flight is tomorrow morning at 07:25 so the Nexus office will not be open yet).

I repeated the question a full FOUR times to the agent on the phone, and she told me repeatedly that the only thing that was needed was to update the passport information on GOES, and that it would not be necessary to have the document visually or manually verified at the Nexus office.

I told her that I had heard that other Nexus/Global Entry members had (in the past) been required to present their documents for verification, etc. etc. and she told me that it was not necessary.

I went on to ask again, saying that I would make a special trip to the airport today since my flight was before the Nexus office opened, to which she re-iterated that it was not necessary and that if I failed to simply update the passport information on GOES and instead came to the Nexus office (without doing any online update) it might cause the Global Entry system not to recognize me in the morning.

I know there are several other posts in this thread that indicate otherwise, but I repeatedly belaboured the matter with the agent from the Calgary office over the phone and she emphatically repeated that document verification was not necessary.

My plan (unless someone here gives me good reason to do otherwise) in the morning, is simply to attempt to use Global Entry at Pre-Clearance the way I always do, and if I get flagged for secondary, I will explain what has transpired and see what happens.

Thoughts?

global happy traveller Feb 6, 2013 10:24 pm


Originally Posted by Nicodemus75 (Post 20200780)
I have read this sort of thing several times throughout the thread. I was issued a new passport today at the passport office in YYC. So I called the Nexus office at YYC airport to enquire if I had to have the document physically verified by border agents for either Nexus or Global Entry, or for entry into US/CANADA, vice versa (my flight is tomorrow morning at 07:25 so the Nexus office will not be open yet).

I repeated the question a full FOUR times to the agent on the phone, and she told me repeatedly that the only thing that was needed was to update the passport information on GOES, and that it would not be necessary to have the document visually or manually verified at the Nexus office.

I told her that I had heard that other Nexus/Global Entry members had (in the past) been required to present their documents for verification, etc. etc. and she told me that it was not necessary.

I went on to ask again, saying that I would make a special trip to the airport today since my flight was before the Nexus office opened, to which she re-iterated that it was not necessary and that if I failed to simply update the passport information on GOES and instead came to the Nexus office (without doing any online update) it might cause the Global Entry system not to recognize me in the morning.

I know there are several other posts in this thread that indicate otherwise, but I repeatedly belaboured the matter with the agent from the Calgary office over the phone and she emphatically repeated that document verification was not necessary.

My plan (unless someone here gives me good reason to do otherwise) in the morning, is simply to attempt to use Global Entry at Pre-Clearance the way I always do, and if I get flagged for secondary, I will explain what has transpired and see what happens.

Thoughts?

this is something new a few years back.... you can now update your details on GOES website. Mrs GHT and I did exactly that/never had a problem.

Nicodemus75 Feb 6, 2013 10:43 pm


Originally Posted by global_happy_traveller (Post 20200813)
this is something new a few years back.... you can now update your details on GOES website. Mrs GHT and I did exactly that/never had a problem.

The quote from Shareholder above, is from a week ago.

PhotoJim Feb 7, 2013 10:57 am

An online update of passport information is definitely sufficient for GE, but from what I understand, not automatically sufficient for NEXUS.

Aaron01 Feb 7, 2013 11:52 am


Originally Posted by PhotoJim (Post 20203939)
An online update of passport information is definitely sufficient for GE, but from what I understand, not automatically sufficient for NEXUS.

I got a new passport in Sept and updated it in my GOES profile. I've had no problems doing probably a dozen land NEXUS crossings. Haven't done an air crossing yet...

xero9 Feb 7, 2013 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by flyquiet (Post 20200654)
My impression was that if as you pass across the border that the things you acquire in any manner while in the US are YOUR property and if you bring them with you, they are being imported by YOU, thus if they are declared and within your exemption (or YOU pay duty and tax as appropriate) then it should not be an issue. Once on this side, you can give away any of your property at any time. I think the issue would be if you said those aren't mine they are this other non-traveller's goods and I am a deliveryman -- that would not be allowable. (And make sure the shoes are not made of food!!)

I'm curious.. In this situation, how would you proceed? My personal feelings are as long as I buy the item with my own money I can bring it across the border. If someone in Canada orders something from the US and I bring it back, this is wrong.

Obviously, I want to be able to use NEXUS, but I feel I'd technically be violating the rules of the program.

RunningWithScissors Feb 7, 2013 1:52 pm


Originally Posted by Aaron01 (Post 20204347)
I got a new passport in Sept and updated it in my GOES profile. I've had no problems doing probably a dozen land NEXUS crossings. Haven't done an air crossing yet...

It seems to be like many other rules on the NEXUS program - communicated irregularly and enforced when convenient. If you happen to win a secondary on the wrong day, with the wrong agent then zero tolerance means you lose. You have to decide if that's worth the risk.

Are the odds good that you can explain the verbal approval, show your due diligence by having GOES changes already complete? Sure. Anecdotal evidence is that you might get a finger wagging. But I keep thinking two words: zero tolerance. (Oh, and the words cranky, power tripping and bored... not sure how those relate :o )


Originally Posted by xero9 (Post 20204982)
I'm curious.. In this situation, how would you proceed? My personal feelings are as long as I buy the item with my own money I can bring it across the border. If someone in Canada orders something from the US and I bring it back, this is wrong.

Obviously, I want to be able to use NEXUS, but I feel I'd technically be violating the rules of the program.

If they bought something and shipped it to a US address to avoid tax, they know they are avoiding taxes. It's not 'legit', no matter what logic they twist for you. And it happens all the time ;)

If anyone is nervous enough to ask about it on a message board, IMHO they will be positively freaking out if asked about it at the border. Take off the price tags, put them in a different box, include a birthday card, label it gift and mail it. Know you are still avoiding taxes, but at least you won't lose your NEXUS card at the border.

If you buy something with the intent of giving it away, then you are legitimately using your allowance to bring things back. Don't think twice. People are totally allowed to buy gifts, even under NEXUS.

flyquiet Feb 7, 2013 1:53 pm

Me, I think it would depend on who the person was and what the merchandise was. Shoes? Maybe. Keds, not Manolos. But I don't tend to be the sort of person people ask to do favours. I'd be all "how do I know there isn't $10,000 cash stuffed in the sole of the shoes?" When the check-in says "did you leave your bags unattended at any time?" I will say "well, they were in the hold under the airport bus and I didn't directly observe them during that time." I have given my Clif shot blox (food) to my husband to carry in his suitcase because he is not NEXUS and I therefore "don't have food".

Ace Cdn Feb 7, 2013 5:01 pm


Originally Posted by Nicodemus75 (Post 20200780)
I have read this sort of thing several times throughout the thread. I was issued a new passport today at the passport office in YYC. So I called the Nexus office at YYC airport to enquire if I had to have the document physically verified by border agents for either Nexus or Global Entry, or for entry into US/CANADA, vice versa (my flight is tomorrow morning at 07:25 so the Nexus office will not be open yet).

I repeated the question a full FOUR times to the agent on the phone, and she told me repeatedly that the only thing that was needed was to update the passport information on GOES, and that it would not be necessary to have the document visually or manually verified at the Nexus office.

I told her that I had heard that other Nexus/Global Entry members had (in the past) been required to present their documents for verification, etc. etc. and she told me that it was not necessary.

I went on to ask again, saying that I would make a special trip to the airport today since my flight was before the Nexus office opened, to which she re-iterated that it was not necessary and that if I failed to simply update the passport information on GOES and instead came to the Nexus office (without doing any online update) it might cause the Global Entry system not to recognize me in the morning.

I know there are several other posts in this thread that indicate otherwise, but I repeatedly belaboured the matter with the agent from the Calgary office over the phone and she emphatically repeated that document verification was not necessary.

My plan (unless someone here gives me good reason to do otherwise) in the morning, is simply to attempt to use Global Entry at Pre-Clearance the way I always do, and if I get flagged for secondary, I will explain what has transpired and see what happens.

Thoughts?


I have said it before on here...my passport expired a year ago and I updated the info on GOES and I have never had a problem after many trips....noone even mentioned that it was not the original document when I signed up for NEXUS....also I have used GE since then with no issues.


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