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Originally Posted by cmgalan
(Post 20129105)
Bizaar. I used GE for first time on NYE at yyz and it spit out a receipt for me to keep in addition to the form I handed to the US Agent.
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Originally Posted by emcampbe
(Post 20127799)
Be lucky you were, first, allowed to board the aircraft at all, and second, didn't get a random.
Check in kiosk's won't read a Nexus card, and airline check in staff and GA's, even ACs in most US locations, IME, don't accept Nexus as ID for transborder flights (even if the gov't requirements allow it, the airline's don't necessarily, particularly if they can get fined by customs and forced at their expense to take the customer back). I can't remember where, it might be in a thread on a different forum, there is definitely discussion of DL in YYZ not allowing a customer to check in with Nexus only and no passport. If you had gotten a random, usually, they ask for a passport. Don't have it with you? You are most likely going to get your passport back from the Indian consulate, but not before your Nexus is taken away before you leave the airport. This was most definitely a violation of Nexus rules. Be very lucky you still have it. Really, this is avoidable. You just chose to do the quick trip to YUL. I use Nexus for IAD - YYZ at the gate and although she was clearly confused she let it go |
I think people are getting confused. It's entirely possible to fly US-Canada (or vice versa) without a passport, if you have NEXUS. However, it's against the rules. If you get sent to secondary Customs/Immigration screening you could get into trouble for breaking the rules, and have your NEXUS taken away.
I don't dispute that people have done it. I certainly dispute the wisdom of it. If you absolutely must go to the US when you have NEXUS but your passport is unavailable, drive across the border (where NEXUS is entirely sufficient) and then, if you still need to, fly from a US airport. |
Originally Posted by PhotoJim
(Post 20138126)
I think people are getting confused. It's entirely possible to fly US-Canada (or vice versa) without a passport, if you have NEXUS. However, it's against the rules. If you get sent to secondary Customs/Immigration screening you could get into trouble for breaking the rules, and have your NEXUS taken away.
I don't dispute that people have done it. I certainly dispute the wisdom of it. If you absolutely must go to the US when you have NEXUS but your passport is unavailable, drive across the border (where NEXUS is entirely sufficient) and then, if you still need to, fly from a US airport. Having said that (i agree with you) i will also say that i have called in to both airlines (well AC at least) AND Government offices and at times they clearly have said NO PP REQUIRED even for air travel.....i find that part to be the most confusing and frustrating. Even the official web sites are confusing. And just as an aside and to confuse things further..... my last flight from the US to CAN my colleague had no PP (and is not a TT so no Nexus etc) and they let him board......just had to go through hoops in YYZ |
Originally Posted by PhotoJim
(Post 20138126)
I think people are getting confused. It's entirely possible to fly US-Canada (or vice versa) without a passport, if you have NEXUS. However, it's against the rules. If you get sent to secondary Customs/Immigration screening you could get into trouble for breaking the rules, and have your NEXUS taken away.
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Originally Posted by xero9
(Post 20139182)
Exactly! In December, I had forgotten our NEXUS cards at our in laws. Technically, I could have used the NEXUS kiosk when arriving back in Canada and I'd have a high rate of getting through, but if I was stopped and asked for the card I'd be SOL.
To get my Indian visa, I needed a three week window where I could be without my passport before my 2/2 departure for India. I was in Hong Kong/Thailand the 2nd week of November, Montreal the 4th week of November, Paris the 2nd week of December, and Spain just after Christmas. I had to be in Montreal the 2nd week of January. I had it all documented. Sorry but not even the most anal CBP agent is going to take away your NEXUS card on secondary just because your passport is at the Indian consulate. |
The NEXUS Information Thread
399 pages in and some are still debating the do I need my passport issue when flying.
We can only do so much. It's fairly likely that you'll have Nexus take away if traveling by air without a passport and you get caught. Take that for what you will - I'm certainty not going to convince you if there is a DYKWIA attitude. Do this enough and the random aspect of the program will catch up to you. Just trying to be helpful - you are free to do what you choose - just don't expect any sympathy on here - at least not from me - if you insist on learning the hard way. |
Originally Posted by bizorbetter
(Post 20138207)
And just as an aside and to confuse things further..... my last flight from the US to CAN my colleague had no PP (and is not a TT so no Nexus etc) and they let him board......just had to go through hoops in YYZ
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I used GE at YOW last week. Was pretty easy except for that I should get my CBP Sticker for my passport. The person checking for the blue customs form was hesitant to let me go through without it.
When I went up to the customs officer with the GE form, he first asked for my passport, then why I was going to the USA, and then asked for my Nexus card. I don't think he swiped my PP/Nexus card into his computer, but he definitely wanted to make sure I had it with me. |
Originally Posted by emcampbe
(Post 20139551)
399 pages in and some are still debating the do I need my passport issue when flying.
We can only do so much. It's fairly likely that you'll have Nexus take away if traveling by air without a passport and you get caught. Take that for what you will - I'm certainty not going to convince you if there is a DYKWIA attitude. Do this enough and the random aspect of the program will catch up to you. Just trying to be helpful - you are free to do what you choose - just don't expect any sympathy on here - at least not from me - if you insist on learning the hard way. to add to that, if the Nexus machines are down and you use the Nexus line WITHOUT your passport, expect a secondary, a yelling at and your card gone. I see it every time at YYZ when the machines are down. Argument with official, sent to secondary. |
Originally Posted by emcampbe
(Post 20139551)
399 pages in and some are still debating the do I need my passport issue when flying.
We can only do so much. It's fairly likely that you'll have Nexus take away if traveling by air without a passport and you get caught. From CBSA (bolding as it appears on the website): Canadian citizens travelling by air to the United States must present one of the following valid documents:
It's important to note that there are no changes to the entry or re-entry requirements into Canada. While a NEXUS card may be used to board a plane departing the United States (based on a particular airlines' air carrier policy), the CBSA requires that all NEXUS program members seeking entry into Canada by air carry appropriate documentation, in addition to their NEXUS card. Under the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, the NEXUS card has been approved as an alternative to the passport for air, land, and sea travel into the United States for US and Canadian citizens. I would still bring my passport with me. It's easy to pack, and even if there is not a risk of NEXUS being taken away, having a passport likely would help things go more smoothly if there is a problem with machines, agents, etc. |
Originally Posted by PhotoJim
(Post 20138126)
drive across the border (where NEXUS is entirely sufficient) and then, if you still need to, fly from a US airport.
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Thanks for this thread. My wife and I had the conversation this weekend as she forgot to take her passport with her on a trip from YEG to YVR. I tod her we could drive across the border with only the card, but she didn't want to risk it.
What I really hate is that the IRUS scan machines just don;t seen to work for me. I have done all the things they suggest (hold the top of the machine with both hands to stabilize my head movement etc) and I can't ever get the machine to register my valid the irus scan. Any suggestions? NEXUS card has paid for itself just by the number of hours ( and potential missed flights it has saved me in the waiting line at security. I wouldn't travel without it. |
Originally Posted by emcampbe
(Post 20139551)
399 pages in and some are still debating the do I need my passport issue when flying.
We can only do so much. It's fairly likely that you'll have Nexus take away if traveling by air without a passport and you get caught. Take that for what you will - I'm certainty not going to convince you if there is a DYKWIA attitude. Do this enough and the random aspect of the program will catch up to you. Just trying to be helpful - you are free to do what you choose - just don't expect any sympathy on here - at least not from me - if you insist on learning the hard way. I think most of the discussion is over the mixed messages surrounding those scrutinizing the cards....not whether or not a PP is required and as i stated my colleague flew w/out even a PP so i hardly see a TT card being revoked for not having a PP once.....those in this forum are surely more informed than the masses so i can only imagine how often issues arise...and i have never heard of anyone losing their card. I also know for a fact border residents grocery shop in the US and use nexus lines upon return w/out any forms taxes etc.....there would be cards revoked every day if it was enforced to the level you suggest |
Originally Posted by fnolte
(Post 20141417)
Thanks for this thread. My wife and I had the conversation this weekend as she forgot to take her passport with her on a trip from YEG to YVR. I told her we could drive across the border with only the card, but she didn't want to risk it.
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