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JJJJust Jan 20, 2013 2:26 pm


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 20083283)
That being said, I'm not sure I'd want to risk crossing without a passport. What happens if something happens, and you need to take a flight back? You're SOL if you only have NEXUS with you.

Since (generally), I don't go far enough into Canada that taking a flight back would be more logical than road transportation, I, personally, don't see that as a likely occurrence.

I would probably carry my passport too since I often have this urge to travel and would hate myself if I missed a good fare deal... but then again, that's exactly why I never replaced the one I lost. ;)

payam81 Jan 20, 2013 10:05 pm


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 20083283)
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That being said, I'm not sure I'd want to risk crossing without a passport. What happens if something happens, and you need to take a flight back? You're SOL if you only have NEXUS with you.
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Umm and why are you SOL if you're traveling with only a NEXUS card?

NEXUS is a valid alternative to passport when crossing between US/CANDA in either direction via Land, Air or Marine points of entry.

flyquiet Jan 20, 2013 10:25 pm

I tried an experiment yesterday from MCO to YYZ, and did not take my passport out of my purse at any point, from checking in for the flight / dropping bag and getting boarding pass, going through security, or boarding, and of course used the NEXUS machine on arrival at YYZ. Everyone seemed totally cool with it. I would never leave my passport at home for travelling, but see the benefit of less wear and tear on the passport to use the card for ID.

rehoult Jan 20, 2013 10:32 pm


Originally Posted by payam81 (Post 20090976)
Umm and why are you SOL if you're traveling with only a NEXUS card?

NEXUS is a valid alternative to passport when crossing between US/CANDA in either direction via Land, Air or Marine points of entry.

No, it's not. It's only valid as a stand-alone document for land and sea. See: http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/prog/nexu...uveid-eng.html

global happy traveller Jan 20, 2013 11:10 pm


Originally Posted by payam81 (Post 20090976)
Umm and why are you SOL if you're traveling with only a NEXUS card?

NEXUS is a valid alternative to passport when crossing between US/CANDA in either direction via Land, Air or Marine points of entry.

and IME, passport has been used quite frequently by US CBP at land crossings during questioning and during secondary inspection.....

Not sure why.....perhaps not good looking enough

payam81 Jan 20, 2013 11:23 pm


Originally Posted by rehoult (Post 20091074)
No, it's not. It's only valid as a stand-alone document for land and sea. See: http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/prog/nexu...uveid-eng.html

So confusing... On US CBP it clearly says you can use it to enter by Air. I guess they mean to say can use to enter in to US by Air.

I knew CANPASS always had a requirement to carry passport with you when using Air, thought NEXUS has done away with that.

I always carried my passport anyway, as a 'just in case'.

Thanks for the link.

NA-Flyer Jan 20, 2013 11:26 pm


Originally Posted by payam81 (Post 20090976)
NEXUS is a valid alternative to passport when crossing between US/CANDA in either direction via Land, Air or Marine points of entry.

I wonder if someone is sent to secondary at the CBP in YYZ or YVR and he does not carry his passport, would he be allowed to continue his journey after the questioning or he will be stopped and returned back?

global happy traveller Jan 20, 2013 11:51 pm


Originally Posted by payam81 (Post 20091252)
So confusing... On US CBP it clearly says you can use it to enter by Air. I guess they mean to say can use to enter in to US by Air.

I knew CANPASS always had a requirement to carry passport with you when using Air, thought NEXUS has done away with that.

I always carried my passport anyway, as a 'just in case'.

Thanks for the link.

Dont worry, you are not the only one confused...... even some of the agents are lost too!

vernonc Jan 21, 2013 8:41 am


Originally Posted by NA-Flyer (Post 20091262)
I wonder if someone is sent to secondary at the CBP in YYZ or YVR and he does not carry his passport, would he be allowed to continue his journey after the questioning or he will be stopped and returned back?

I did get sent to secondary inspection. I believe it was random and they (US agents) were kind of apologetic. Asked where I was going and why I was sent to secondary. Checked my bag and sent me on my way. 10 mins total. Never asked for passport at any time. I did have my passport but never asked for it.

NA-Flyer Jan 21, 2013 8:58 am


Originally Posted by vernonc (Post 20093029)
I did get sent to secondary inspection. I believe it was random and they (US agents) were kind of apologetic. Asked where I was going and why I was sent to secondary. Checked my bag and sent me on my way. 10 mins total. Never asked for passport at any time. I did have my passport but never asked for it.

Were you traveling to the states on business or leisure? Was the machine who determined your selection for secondary or the CBP officer who collects the slips of the nexus machines?

vernonc Jan 21, 2013 9:34 am


Originally Posted by NA-Flyer (Post 20093129)
Were you traveling to the states on business or leisure? Was the machine who determined your selection for secondary or the CBP officer who collects the slips of the nexus machines?

Travelling on biz. Don't know who picked me for random secondary screening. As I handed my Nexus printout to the US CBP, she directed me to secondary and said it was random. US CBP has different focus areas at different days. Sometimes its food, sometimes its whether u plan to work in US, and I guess sometimes its Nexus. Since I got Nexus (approx 2 years) only got sent to secondary only this one time. I cross by land with the family several times a year and got stopped twice once by US and once by Cda. Not secondary, just a quick open the trunk and a few questions. Never been stopped at the dedicated Whirlpool Nexus bridge for what its worth.
No one has asked me for passport when I show Nexus either at air or land. Some airline/TSA staff do ask for passports at secondary US airports where they dont know what Nexus is. Most airlines allow u to enter Nexus as a travel doc.

rehoult Jan 21, 2013 12:46 pm


Originally Posted by vernonc (Post 20093357)
No one has asked me for passport when I show Nexus either at air or land. Some airline/TSA staff do ask for passports at secondary US airports where they dont know what Nexus is. Most airlines allow u to enter Nexus as a travel doc.

Honestly, the Nexus Air rule application is a total crapshoot. Nexus rules say must have passport. CBP/State Department documents frequently list Nexus as a WHTI compliant document (which means its valid standalone). TIMATIC lists Nexus as valid into the States from Canada, and into Canada from anywhere. TSA rules says its accepted for security screening.

Summary seems to be: Published entry requirements allow for Nexus to be accepted as a valid stand-alone document. However, using the card under such circumstances is grounds for removal from the program.

It's like guard A saying you can have a cookie, but guard B saying he'll shoot you if you do.

vernonc Jan 21, 2013 12:50 pm


Originally Posted by rehoult (Post 20094635)
Honestly, the Nexus Air rule application is a total crapshoot. Nexus rules say must have passport. CBP/State Department documents frequently list Nexus as a WHTI compliant document (which means its valid standalone). TIMATIC lists Nexus as valid into the States from Canada, and into Canada from anywhere. TSA rules says its accepted for security screening.

Summary seems to be: Published entry requirements allow for Nexus to be accepted as a valid stand-alone document. However, using the card under such circumstances is grounds for removal from the program.

It's like guard A saying you can have a cookie, but guard B saying he'll shoot you if you do.

^ . use Nexus and carry your passport too.

canadiancow Jan 21, 2013 1:37 pm


Originally Posted by flyquiet (Post 20091047)
I tried an experiment yesterday from MCO to YYZ, and did not take my passport out of my purse at any point, from checking in for the flight / dropping bag and getting boarding pass, going through security, or boarding, and of course used the NEXUS machine on arrival at YYZ. Everyone seemed totally cool with it. I would never leave my passport at home for travelling, but see the benefit of less wear and tear on the passport to use the card for ID.

I've done that too, but it was a huge pain to get airline check-in agents to process it as a valid document.

And then the GA didn't think it was valid, and had to call her supervisor.

It's just not worth the effort, especially since you need your passport anyway.

cavitron Jan 21, 2013 6:45 pm


Originally Posted by backguy (Post 20088210)
I'm a long-time lurker (3 years!), but a first-time poster. I have been following this thread for awhile, and it seems that the same questions keep coming up time and time again. It doesn't help that there are over 5900 posts to search through, many of which are quite outdated.

With the recent relaunch of Wikivoyage, I thought it was time to write an article on the NEXUS program: https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/NEXUS

I have tried to focus on the application process, privileges, and responsibilities. I have avoided some areas of ambiguity (e.g. CBP passport stickers; declaring gum; travelling with children; using the crew lane) and tried to focus on the core parts of the program.

Some sections should be broken off into separate pages (TSA Precheck and Global Entry are two that come to mind), but I'll leave that to people who have more experience in those areas than I do. Please edit the article mercilessly and add any further detail that I have missed. Hopefully we can start referring people to this article.

And if anyone wants to document the specific NEXUS procedures for US entry at each Canadian airport, be my guest. :)

https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/NEXUS

Nice wiki. Looks like a lot of work! Seems to answer the most common questions. I hope it doesn't get buried in this thread.


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